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Old Jan 23, 2014, 9:16 pm
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Do not post referral offers or requests in this thread. All such posts will be deleted.

This thread is dedicated to Q&A about the Chase RR Visa signup bonus offers.

Post important Chase RR Visa news in the RR Visa News ONLY thread. (It will quickly get lost in this thread.)

Post or look for referral offers ONLY in the RR Visa referrals thread in the referrals thread of the credit card forum.

75,000 miles bonus for all Southwest Airlines personal credit cards.

40K + 20K personal Plus
offer:
$1,000 spend in three months for 40K. $11,000 more in 12 months for additional 20K. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.

40K + 20K personal Premier offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $11,000 more in 12 months for additional 20K. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.


70K Performance Business Card offer. $5,000 spend in three months. $199 annual fee, not waived the first year.

50K personal Plus offer $2,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.

40K personal Plus offer: $1,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.

40K personal Premier offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.

50K personal Premier offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.

60K Business Premier offer. $3,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.

60K Plus offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.

60K personal Premier offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.

60K Plus offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year. Still active 07-July-2017

50K Plus offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year. Still active 21-Apr-2017

40K Personal Plus offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.

50K personal Premier offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year. Still active 21-Apr-2017

40K Personal Premier offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.

50K Business Premier offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year. Still active 21-Apr-2017

There have been targeted offers of 50K & $100 credit, for example:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24575935-post2302.html

Frequently Asked Questions about Rapid Rewards Visa

1. What are the different card types?
non-business Plus, non-business Premier, business Plus, and business Premier.
Premier cards have a higher annual fee but give 6000 anniversary bonus points vs. 3000 points for the Plus cards. It is generally agreed that you will get the bonus for a new account if you have not had that particular type of RR Visa card before, but Chase appears to be in the process of changing their policies (see below).

Note that prior to RR-2.0, the two types of RR Visa cards were "Classic" ($29 to $39 annual fee) and "Signature" ($59 to $69 annual fee). Plus and Premier are new products for purposes of the (soon to be retired?) "One bonus per product" rule.

2. Is there a zero annual fee version?
No.

3. Can I "churn" these cards? How often can I reapply for the same type card and get the signup bonus?
The official rule has recently changed more than once. Closely check the T&C of your offer as different rules may apply to concurrently available offers. The Inflight offer linked above states:
This bonus offer is available to you as long as you have not received a new cardmember bonus for this product in the past twenty four months.
Referral offers have been seen with a limit of one individual and one business bonus per lifetime (although T&C read by the CSR taking the application differed from those printed on the referral offer).

Actual results sometimes differ from the official rule. People have reported receiving the bonus a second time on the same card type at various intervals even when the bonus was officially once per lifefime per product. Please post your results here.

As of mid-May 2015 Chase has cracked down on applicants who appear to have much less than average attachment to their cards. Specifically, more than 5 applications within the past 24 months is the approximate cutoff: Chase crackdown on churners: Please report your RR Visa approvals/denials here

4. Can I cancel the card and still collect the anniversary bonus?
Yes. Reasonable people disagree on whether this crosses the line of exploiting the card issuer. The anniversary bonus is described a reward for having been a cardmember for the past year, not as a reward for paying the next year's annual fee. Based on that description, the bonus has been earned even if you then cancel the card. As a practical matter, there is a window of only a couple weeks to accomplish this. The bonus points will post on the billing date of the statement containing your new annual fee, which will have posted earlier in the billing cycle. You have 30 days from posting of the annual fee to cancel the card and have the new fee refunded.

5. Does the annual fee count toward the spending threshold for the signup bonus?
No.

6. When will my signup bonus post to my Rapid Rewards account?
If you have met the spending threshold at least several days before your statement date, the bonus will normally post 2 days after your statement date, not when you actually spent the money! Cutting the timing or the spending amount too closely is not advisable. Mistakes can happen.

7. My statement shows sufficient purchases to meet the spending threshold. Why didn't I receive the bonus?
This can happen if you met the spending threshold just a few days before the statement date. It appears that accounts are flagged for meeting the spending threshold independently of the statement generation process and less frequently than daily.

8. How can I determine my statement date?
You should call Chase (phone number on back of card) to check your next statement date. Credit card companies are now required to have payments due on the same numerical day of each month, which means closing dates vary throughout the year. (Before reforms enacted after the financial crisis, RR Visa cards had constant closing dates rather than constant due dates.) The closing date should remain within the same small range unless you request a change of your payment due date. When you request a change, Chase normally can delay your next statement but cannot accelerate it. If you are unwisely taking the risk of cutting your timing too close, you should call Chase more than once to confirm your next statement date.

9. I accidentally crossed the spending threshold in December rather than January. Can I return a large purchase to bring my spending back below the threshold?
Unlikely. It appears that the sweep to check spending threshold does not un-flag an account previously flagged as meeting the threshold. It's not even clear whether the sweep counts returns at all. If you realize the error before the statement closes and you have a payment due date change available, you might be able to push the December closing date into January.

10. Can I apply for a credit card in my wife's name but my Rapid Rewards number, so that the points funnel into my account?
People have tried this. Some have succeeded. Others have reported that Chase closed the account and posted no Rapid Rewards points. Do you feel lucky? Programs can become very aggressive when they suspect members of defrauding the program by using non-matching names. When you game the system you are only on solid ground if you follow the rules to the letter. Breaking the rules means that the program can penalize you if they want to, and believe me: They want to.

11. Can I scam this system in any other way? I just had a clever idea.
There is nothing new under the sun here on FlyerTalk. If it relates to established program rules and it isn't discussed here you can be confident your idea will not work.
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Old Jan 3, 2014, 6:54 pm
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Originally Posted by rampartmovie
You can also tell them that youi travel a lot and that no foreign transaction fess is attractive. Also tell them that last year you were very troubled with maintaining receipts for you business on a single credit card. Tell them a seperate business card will keep my expenses in one place..
I didn't even realize Chase Southwest Visa had no foreign transaction fees! That is attractive. Thanks for the advice.
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Old Jan 3, 2014, 10:59 pm
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Originally Posted by JudyS
I didn't even realize Chase Southwest Visa had no foreign transaction fees! That is attractive. Thanks for the advice.
The Premier only.
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Old Jan 5, 2014, 12:57 pm
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Hi Folks,
I'm not new to flying on miles, but I am new to FT. :-)

Quick question:
I completed an app for my husband for the business card (We do run a small business...) last week and was approved. However, I've just realized that I entered MY OWN RR account number on the application. I have received the 50k bonus at some point in the past, though there are only a few miles left on the account now.

Do you foresee this being an issue, my RR# on his card? If so, should I head it off by calling Chase to change the RR# to his? It doesn't matter to us which account gets the bonus - only that one of them gets it.

THanks!
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Old Jan 5, 2014, 2:10 pm
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Originally Posted by amashb
Hi Folks,
I'm not new to flying on miles, but I am new to FT. :-)

Quick question:
I completed an app for my husband for the business card (We do run a small business...) last week and was approved. However, I've just realized that I entered MY OWN RR account number on the application. I have received the 50k bonus at some point in the past, though there are only a few miles left on the account now.

Do you foresee this being an issue, my RR# on his card? If so, should I head it off by calling Chase to change the RR# to his? It doesn't matter to us which account gets the bonus - only that one of them gets it.

THanks!
Welcome to FT, amashb!

I think you should call. Chase will probably catch it if you don't. And from what I hear, you want to stay off Chase's radar as much as you can. Don't give them excuses to look at your account.
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Old Jan 5, 2014, 11:50 pm
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Originally Posted by JudyS
Thanks for the advice!

To recap, I applied for and was approved for the SW Personal card. On the same day, I applied for the SW Business card and was told I was under review.

Based on advice here, I called the Business reconsideration line on December 31. However, the department I needed to speak to was already closed.

Yesterday, I received a letter saying my SW Business card was denied. The only reason given was "Too many requests for credit or opened accounts with us."

Since this was only my second request for a Chase account (ever), I am a bit bummed. However, rather than giving up, I intend to call the Business reconsideration line. I will tell them I would like to be able to separate my personal and business spending (which is true). I also will suggest they lower the limit on my new SW Personal card. Is this a good strategy? Is there anything else I could say?
Read my post from a few pages back. I got the personal credit card and was denied for the business card. After extensive reading here, I called the reconsideration line assuming I was a shoe-in. (Legitimate business, long history, sole proprietor, great P&L statement). Nope - denied again. Was at a total loss. Waited 24 hours, called in the AM instead of the PM - got somebody different who didn't seem to notice I'd called before. Asked about a reconsideration. She asked me a million questions I didn't quite know how to answer (mostly business financials) and apparently I answered appropriately, as she approved me on reconsideration.
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Old Jan 6, 2014, 1:38 am
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Originally Posted by toomanybooks
Welcome to FT, amashb!

I think you should call. Chase will probably catch it if you don't. And from what I hear, you want to stay off Chase's radar as much as you can. Don't give them excuses to look at your account.
I agree with Toomanybooks
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Old Jan 6, 2014, 11:15 am
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For the archives, if anybody needs a datapoint for 2015...

A variety of circumstances which aren't important required me to apply for the personal and business cards 90 days apart, and of course I wanted all 100,000 points to post in the same calendar year. It worked.

8/27/2013: applied and approved for personal
10/1, 11/1, 12/1: set these as my bill due date, causing...
12/4/2013: statement closing date
12/5/2013: I spent the 2000th dollar*
12/8/2013: approval plus 103 days (Chase uses 103 days instead of literal "three months")
1/4/2014: this is the statement that showed my personal 50,000 points

(FWIW my biz 50,000 points will post on 1/12 -- I applied on 11/25 = 8/27 + 90 and didn't change the due date)

* Dunno if transaction date versus posting date coulda screwed me up, but I checked previous transactions with the store I intended to spend my 2000th dollar at, and they posted either two or three days after transacted. So 8/27 is about as early as you'd ever wanna apply if you want the 50,000 points to post in the following year. Now ya know.
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Old Jan 6, 2014, 11:50 am
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Ok, I've read about 15 pages of the thread so far, and am going to continue reading. One thing I'm not clear on, though - is there still currently a way for one person to get two 50k bonuses? I'm interested in the CP moreso than the points (SW doesn't have many flights from my home airport), so if I can't get 100k from signup bonuses, there's not much reason for me to go for any SW card right now. Am I missing a new link that I haven't yet come across in the thread, or is the only card offering 50k the personal premier?

Most of the links in the OP are dead - I've notated the statuses in red below. I'm sure you're all already well aware of that. Any chance we could get a wiki added to this thread, so it can stay more up to date?


Originally Posted by trixiezzz
All four versions of the 50K offer are showing up on SW website now:

Only 25k now
Southwest Airlines Rapid Rewards® Premier Card:
https://creditcards.chase.com/a1/southwest/2ffhero
($99 annual fee)

Dead
Southwest Airlines Rapid Rewards® Plus Card:
https://creditcards.chase.com/600027...thwest/2ffhero
($69 annual fee)

Dead
Southwest Airlines Rapid Rewards® Premier Business Card:
https://creditcards.chase.com/600027...thwest/2ffhero
($99 annual fee)

Dead
Southwest Airlines Rapid Rewards® Plus Business Card:
https://creditcards.chase.com/600027...thwest/2ffhero
($69 annual fee)



======= OLD INFO ===================

I just saw on another board that the 50K offer is back alive.

Alive, but is for Premier, not Plus
Link for Plus Card:
https://creditcards.chase.com/a1/southwest/radio

Alive, no landing page. Assume it's still 50k
The Premier Card 50K SW Visa is still alive, too. Here's a link for it:
https://applynow.chase.com/FlexAppWe...ID=&PROMO=DF01

Dead
Here's a link for the Business 50K Visa:
https://applynow.chase.com/FlexAppWe...DF01&SPID=F2NT

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Old Jan 6, 2014, 12:19 pm
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This link is still alive:

https://creditcards.chase.com/a1/southwest/travel

Also I think this link is for the premier card, not the plus as stated above

https://creditcards.chase.com/a1/southwest/radio
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Old Jan 6, 2014, 1:05 pm
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Anybody successful in getting 50,000 recently as opposed to 25,000?

I also see that this link is working:
https://creditcards.chase.com/a1/southwest/offer
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Old Jan 6, 2014, 2:18 pm
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Originally Posted by rsteinmetz70112
This link is still alive:

https://creditcards.chase.com/a1/southwest/travel

Also I think this link is for the premier card, not the plus as stated above

https://creditcards.chase.com/a1/southwest/radio
Good call re: Premier vs. Plus. Fixed my comment in the previous post.
Originally Posted by intl_flyer153
Anybody successful in getting 50,000 recently as opposed to 25,000?

I also see that this link is working:
https://creditcards.chase.com/a1/southwest/offer
All 3 of these links have business card applications linked about halfway down the page, between the graphic and the fine print. Is this what people are using to get 50k on a business card?
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Old Jan 6, 2014, 2:32 pm
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I called the 1-800 phone number on the working link and asked if it was valid and informed him that the signup bonus on the Southwest page is different.

The CS rep verified that applying through the Southwest webpage only offers 25000 signup bonus but the Chase page offers 50000 signup bonus.

He also verified that the offer he pulled up if I wanted to apply over the phone was 50K.

I missed on in October/November, so I guess this deal may be back on.
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Old Jan 7, 2014, 4:33 am
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Data point (a contentious data point?):

Applied for 2 Chase SW personals on the same dame (Plus + Premier).

Just got the 50k bonus from both cards deposited today.

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Old Jan 7, 2014, 6:41 pm
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Help with Posting of Points Timing

I opened both the premier personal and business SW cards in mid-October 2013. I hit the $2,000 spend requirement on the business card 1/1/14 and my statement cut 1/5. My recent Chase statement is showing 2033 RR points earned for the month ending 1/5 but not the 50K sign up points. Do the sign up points typically get credited sometime after the normal spend points? If so, how long?

I have the same situation on the personal card. Hit the $2,000 spend requirement on 1/3, but the statement does not cut for several more weeks so I will have to wait on checking for the 50K sign up points on that card.

Thanks!
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Old Jan 7, 2014, 9:25 pm
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Originally Posted by DnvTrvlr
I opened both the premier personal and business SW cards in mid-October 2013. I hit the $2,000 spend requirement on the business card 1/1/14 and my statement cut 1/5. My recent Chase statement is showing 2033 RR points earned for the month ending 1/5 but not the 50K sign up points. Do the sign up points typically get credited sometime after the normal spend points? If so, how long?

I have the same situation on the personal card. Hit the $2,000 spend requirement on 1/3, but the statement does not cut for several more weeks so I will have to wait on checking for the 50K sign up points on that card.

Thanks!
I also signed up early-to-mid Oct 2013 and my statement just closed 1/6 -- Spent majority of what I needed for CP in the 3rd billing cycle, kept the card in the drawer for the first two. Under the "reward history" for that card in my Chase.com account, it shows:

+ 2X Pts for Southwest and AirTran purchases 0
+ Points earned on all other purchases 8,970
+ Additional bonus points 50,000
- Total Rapid Rewards transf. to Southwest 58,970

So, if you're not seeing this and you met the $2k spend (NOT including the annual fee), then I would likely contact Chase and find out what happened....
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