"Jerry, Your Trip is Just Around the Corner"
#16
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: OAK/SFO/SJC
Programs: AA Plat 2MM+, HHonors, Amtrak GuestRewards
Posts: 1,158
I find the emails' informality unfortunate. Southwest is a business from which I'm buying a service--and one striving to make itself more appealing to business travelers. If they're going to send emails, perhaps they could address them to "Mr. Hayden."
The above is pretty inconsequential--but, out of these small things...
The above is pretty inconsequential--but, out of these small things...
#17
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,932
I contacted Southwest about this and here's what they said
I did a Contact Us email recently about this very subject, and today they responded. The subject-specific paragraph was:
Now, does the last sentence (about some monthly summary) mean that they are going to look into it after all, or what???
This response about my complaint about these emails did not leave me with any better impression of Southwest than these emails themselves, I'm sorry!
we regret that you are disappointed with the time frame that your "Upcoming Trip" e-mail was sent. We acknowledge that southwest.com and its amenities may not meet all of the needs and wants of each person who visits it, and we are truly sorry that this was the case with you. Please know that we have tracked the main points of your e-mail via our monthly summary, which is distributed to our Senior Leadership.
I cannot figure out this response at all. First, they seem to imply that I have an issue with getting an email a month in advance, and other people don't. No, my issue is with getting an email telling me my "trip is around the corner" a month in advance; does anyone else actually like that??? Now, does the last sentence (about some monthly summary) mean that they are going to look into it after all, or what???
This response about my complaint about these emails did not leave me with any better impression of Southwest than these emails themselves, I'm sorry!
#18
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Santa Cruz, CA USA
Programs: AA, UA, WN, HH, Marriott
Posts: 7,290
Booked a flight on Wednesday for June 27 - just got another one of those "just around the corner" emails two days after the regular confirmation and nearly 4 weeks before the flight.
Please, WN - stop sending these - they are useless and truly annoying.
Please, WN - stop sending these - they are useless and truly annoying.
#19
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 1,411
Aren't these e-mails just meant to sell EBCI? Obviously, they could program around sending them to A-List or A+ people, but that would take too much time. Just blast out as many e-mails as you can and keep reminding people that they can spend the $10.
I have to admit, sometimes I get one of these and, for just a second, worry if I've forgotten that I have a trip coming up, only to open it and realize it's still 3 weeks away.
I have to admit, sometimes I get one of these and, for just a second, worry if I've forgotten that I have a trip coming up, only to open it and realize it's still 3 weeks away.
#20
Moderator: Southwest Airlines, Capital One
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: California
Programs: WN Companion Pass, A-list preferred, Hyatt Globalist; United Club Lietime (sic) Member
Posts: 21,619
If Southwest replaced "Just around the corner" with "Only one month away" that would help a lot. Giving us the ability to opt out (by RR number) would be welcome too.
#21
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Programs: SW Rapid Rewards, Hilton Honors, Marriott, Avis First
Posts: 4,831
I always opt for EBCI when I purchase the ticket and still get the annoying emails. The crowning glory was when I got one of those "just around the corner emails" for my return leg three days before getting one for my outbound leg.
#22
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,932
So they're double idiots. Idiiots for thinking that a month is "just around the corner", and idiots for not checking to see if I've already bought EBCI before asking me to buy it (for that same flight).
#23
Moderator, Southwest Airlines and Choice Privileges
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 3,036
Sure would be, but that wouldn't fit with SWA's customer-hostile attitude regarding all things digital. Once we accept that reality we can turn to realistic solutions such as:
I recently went down that path as well. Unfortunately a nasty virus in the form of SWA-trained programmers and UI designers seems to have infected Google, so I wasted something like 10 minutes (OK, exaggeration) just trying to figure out how to start a process I used to be able to start in my sleep.
Then there is also the fact that several times in the past 18 months SWA has broken my filters that automagically label all reservation and cancellation Emails. How long before SWA breaks our filters that trash the "just around the corner" Emails? The more we complain, then give up and resort to adding filters, the sooner they break those filters, I suppose.
Then there is also the fact that several times in the past 18 months SWA has broken my filters that automagically label all reservation and cancellation Emails. How long before SWA breaks our filters that trash the "just around the corner" Emails? The more we complain, then give up and resort to adding filters, the sooner they break those filters, I suppose.
#24
Join Date: May 2009
Location: MDW
Programs: PC, WN, AA
Posts: 89
#25
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,932
Oh, I forgot that they're trying to sell all that partner junk. It just goes in one eye and out the other. I always book hotels (at least the ones they partner with) directly with the hotel sites, and the car rentals directly with the car rental company. They'd have better luck trying to sell me stuff from the SkyMall catalog than trying to get me to buy hotels or car rentals through them!
#26
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Programs: HH Gold, AA Gold
Posts: 10,458
It's mainly hotels and rental cars where WN gets a small cut of the revenue booked thru southwest.com.
#27
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Texas
Programs: Hyatt Lifetime Globalist
Posts: 454
Just noticed that my companion is now shown on this email even though they have a different confirmation number. I see it changed sometime in February but did not see it mentioned anywhere. It does help a little if I need to quickly pull up both confirmation numbers.
#28
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: MCI
Programs: CBP Global Entry, WN A-List Preferred, WN Companion Pass
Posts: 2,007
Interesting....had not noticed that (and usually delete these annoying things w/o opening). Thanks for the update!
#29
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: SJC/SFO
Programs: WN A+ CP, UA 1MM/*A Gold, Mar LT Tit, IHG Plat, HH Dia
Posts: 6,284
These emails often cause momentary confusion for me. I book almost all of my trips as one-way flights. I'll often get a "Just around the corner" reminder not for my next flight, nor the one after it, but the third flight in the future. The date and destination information cause me to do a double-take and check that I booked everything correctly.
#30
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: Jose Cuervo Gold, Bud Light Platinum, Schwab 401K, VW Bug 2MM
Posts: 1,100
These emails often cause momentary confusion for me. I book almost all of my trips as one-way flights. I'll often get a "Just around the corner" reminder not for my next flight, nor the one after it, but the third flight in the future. The date and destination information cause me to do a double-take and check that I booked everything correctly.