list of WN website bugs/issues
#31
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,832
You have 24 hours to cancel *any* reservation for a full refund. Don't know if you can do it on-line, though. But I suspect so...
#32
Join Date: May 1998
Posts: 3,062
Can't see availability or book standard award for flight on the expiration date (6/27/11). System lets me select tab for the day of expiration, but the column showing award availability is missing. Prior dates work correctly, later dates are, appropriately, grayed out and can't be selected at all.
#33
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: ORD, MDW or MKE
Programs: American and Southwest. Hilton and Marriott hotels primarily.
Posts: 6,454
I don't know about the current incarnation of the website, but in the past you could cancel WGA's online less than 24 hours after purchase and get a refund.
#34
Join Date: May 2002
Programs: WN F9 HA UA AA IHG HH MR
Posts: 3,305
Not to worry. The reservation system would have detected two tickets on the same flight and cancelled both as speculative bookings.
#35
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Colorado
Programs: UAL, LH, AF, SQ, HAL
Posts: 33
"undefined error" results in double booking, not all $$ refunded
Good day to you all. I am new to this forum. I began searching for info on the problem I have recently encountered with Southwest and found this forum. You all are very helpful, and I thank you.
I, also, recently attempted to buy tickets on SW's website but received the "undefined error." In accordance with the instructions in the error message, I went back & tried again, but received the same error message. At that point I had lunch and came back to my computer to find that the system had booked two sets of tickets. So, whoever posted that SW's website wouldn't allow double-bookings, that was not my experience.
I immediately called 1-800-I-FLY-SWA. The queue was long, so I requested a call back. The automated system called me back about half an hour later. As the system transferred me to a live agent, it hung up on me. So I called again, and again requested a call back. Ditto. And ditto again. That afternoon--Wednesday the 15th--after THEIR error double booked me, THEIR system hung up on me THREE times.
That evening I finally got through to a live person. She canceled the errant tickets and refunded the purchase price, but said that to refund the Early Bird checkin fees I had to call Customer Care.
The Customer Care line is ALWAYS busy. (I suspect I now know the reason why.) So I sent an email. The email reply I received seems to have been written to someone else but addressed to me, since it does not address my issue but discusses some other problem.
So I sent ANOTHER email. And kept trying the customer care line, which is just plain ALWAYS busy. In desperation I called the 800 number back, and while they were very nice, they couldn't help me.
So, after being a long-time SWA customer with a SW VISA card for many years, I estimate that I have spent 6-7 hours dealing with THEIR ERROR, and it's still not right.
Southwest, are you listening? The FIRST rule of customer service is: keep your existing customers happy. Southwest, I want my money back for the Early Bird checkin fees, and I want to be compensated for my time.
Maybe, just maybe, you should spend a little less time patting yourselves on the back for 40 years in business, and figuring out how you're going to STAY in business for the next 40 years.
I fly out of Denver. United and Frontier are suddenly looking better and better.
Thank you all for "listening" to me vent. I appreciate it.
I, also, recently attempted to buy tickets on SW's website but received the "undefined error." In accordance with the instructions in the error message, I went back & tried again, but received the same error message. At that point I had lunch and came back to my computer to find that the system had booked two sets of tickets. So, whoever posted that SW's website wouldn't allow double-bookings, that was not my experience.
I immediately called 1-800-I-FLY-SWA. The queue was long, so I requested a call back. The automated system called me back about half an hour later. As the system transferred me to a live agent, it hung up on me. So I called again, and again requested a call back. Ditto. And ditto again. That afternoon--Wednesday the 15th--after THEIR error double booked me, THEIR system hung up on me THREE times.
That evening I finally got through to a live person. She canceled the errant tickets and refunded the purchase price, but said that to refund the Early Bird checkin fees I had to call Customer Care.
The Customer Care line is ALWAYS busy. (I suspect I now know the reason why.) So I sent an email. The email reply I received seems to have been written to someone else but addressed to me, since it does not address my issue but discusses some other problem.
So I sent ANOTHER email. And kept trying the customer care line, which is just plain ALWAYS busy. In desperation I called the 800 number back, and while they were very nice, they couldn't help me.
So, after being a long-time SWA customer with a SW VISA card for many years, I estimate that I have spent 6-7 hours dealing with THEIR ERROR, and it's still not right.
Southwest, are you listening? The FIRST rule of customer service is: keep your existing customers happy. Southwest, I want my money back for the Early Bird checkin fees, and I want to be compensated for my time.
Maybe, just maybe, you should spend a little less time patting yourselves on the back for 40 years in business, and figuring out how you're going to STAY in business for the next 40 years.
I fly out of Denver. United and Frontier are suddenly looking better and better.
Thank you all for "listening" to me vent. I appreciate it.
#37
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,832
Machta, call the 800 number and ask them to transfer you to their supervisors in customer relations group in Dallas. If they say they can't do that, they are full of it because they've done it inadvertently for me before.
Of course, the CR group isn't available on the weekends...
On a side note, I sent an email to WN about the price paid for future travel not available on the website when it used to be so. I actually got a call back from a 'Ken' at WN that went to voice mail. He said that's the first time he had heard of it but would forward the issue along. How many times have we heard that?
Of course, the CR group isn't available on the weekends...
On a side note, I sent an email to WN about the price paid for future travel not available on the website when it used to be so. I actually got a call back from a 'Ken' at WN that went to voice mail. He said that's the first time he had heard of it but would forward the issue along. How many times have we heard that?
#38
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Colorado
Programs: UAL, LH, AF, SQ, HAL
Posts: 33
Machta, call the 800 number and ask them to transfer you to their supervisors in customer relations group in Dallas. If they say they can't do that, they are full of it because they've done it inadvertently for me before.
Of course, the CR group isn't available on the weekends...
On a side note, I sent an email to WN about the price paid for future travel not available on the website when it used to be so. I actually got a call back from a 'Ken' at WN that went to voice mail. He said that's the first time he had heard of it but would forward the issue along. How many times have we heard that?
Of course, the CR group isn't available on the weekends...
On a side note, I sent an email to WN about the price paid for future travel not available on the website when it used to be so. I actually got a call back from a 'Ken' at WN that went to voice mail. He said that's the first time he had heard of it but would forward the issue along. How many times have we heard that?
We're headed out on a camping trip tomorrow. I have a 2-page handwritten letter with twelve pages of documentation that I'm sending to Customer Care via priority mail this morning. I hope I get a reply, but I no longer have confidence in Southwest. How sad.
#39
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,832
This should save you a lot of time vs. compiling a bunch of paperwork and mailing it in.
Another tip about calling the CR group. Yes, it's always busy, but if you hang up, redial, hang up, redial, you should eventually get through. I think the longest it's taken me to get through is about two minutes.
#41
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,832
I'm talking about the CR 214-932-0333 number and the amount of time it takes me to hang up, redial, etc, to finally get through the busy signal.
As for calling the 800 number, I'm AL+ too and after calling, entering in my birthday, etc, I've never waited more than a minute.
As for calling the 800 number, I'm AL+ too and after calling, entering in my birthday, etc, I've never waited more than a minute.
#42
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Colorado
Programs: UAL, LH, AF, SQ, HAL
Posts: 33
But did you specifically ask to be transferred? If they say they can't, then tell them that you know for a fact that they have backdoor, priority lines to CR in Dallas and that you've been transferred before and that you don't appreciate being told something that isn't true. Knowledge is key and they aren't going to offer up something like this voluntarily. Obviously, this won't work on the weekends because the CR group is closed.
This should save you a lot of time vs. compiling a bunch of paperwork and mailing it in.
Another tip about calling the CR group. Yes, it's always busy, but if you hang up, redial, hang up, redial, you should eventually get through. I think the longest it's taken me to get through is about two minutes.
This should save you a lot of time vs. compiling a bunch of paperwork and mailing it in.
Another tip about calling the CR group. Yes, it's always busy, but if you hang up, redial, hang up, redial, you should eventually get through. I think the longest it's taken me to get through is about two minutes.
Texas, thanks for the tip. I did send them a whole bunch of documentation via USPS Priority (still "snail" though!) mail yesterday. We're headed out for a couple of days camping (right into the teeth of a nice summer storm in the Colorado high country, snow showers possible Monday morning--SWEET!) so if I don't have a reply/resolution waiting upon our return, I'll try what you suggested. Thanks again!
#43
Moderator, Southwest Airlines and Choice Privileges
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 3,034
There are way too many to list them all, but here is one I recently encountered for the first time:
I was tempted to add that you should also include a status indicator so that the fixed issues can be marked as such, but it doesn't seem likely that will become necessary for at least several years.
When attempting to book an RR 1.x award, instead of being listed as Sold Out or Unavailable, sold out flights are not listed at all on the flight availability page. Quite disconcerting when you start the Modify Itinerary process, your flight sold out after you booked an Award, and you are looking at other options on the same travel date. The other non-stop on the route that day was also sold out, so it was really strange to see zero non-stops when I knew there should be two!
texashoser, you should maintain an index of the issues in the OP (or a copy of the OP the mods can add to the top of the thread for you, if you prefer). See the latest Survival Tips thread for an example. (Note that significant issues discussed in their own thread, like the inflated price in points issue can be listed in the index post.I was tempted to add that you should also include a status indicator so that the fixed issues can be marked as such, but it doesn't seem likely that will become necessary for at least several years.
#44
Moderator, Southwest Airlines and Choice Privileges
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 3,034
Another new issue that experienced for the first time this weekend. I held off posting about it in case it was related to the older computer / older browser / different OS I was using, but I just found the same problem on a different (borrowed) computer running Chrome on Windows:
The modify search fields and "links" (e.g., Add another flight, and Additional Search Options (case style variation: sic)) on the fare quote / select flight page don't work at all.
When the city input fields first broke some weeks or months ago, you could activate them by clicking the flyout button, but that no longer does the trick. With every code update the site gets more and more broken.
#45
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,832
texashoser, you should maintain an index of the issues in the OP (or a copy of the OP the mods can add to the top of the thread for you, if you prefer). See the latest Survival Tips thread for an example. (Note that significant issues discussed in their own thread, like the inflated price in points issue can be listed in the index post.
I was tempted to add that you should also include a status indicator so that the fixed issues can be marked as such, but it doesn't seem likely that will become necessary for at least several years.
I was tempted to add that you should also include a status indicator so that the fixed issues can be marked as such, but it doesn't seem likely that will become necessary for at least several years.