Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Global Airline Alliances > SkyTeam
Reload this Page >

Who would be the next Skyteam member?

Who would be the next Skyteam member?

Old Jan 3, 2012, 2:43 pm
  #676  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 22,778
Originally Posted by g.yau
ST hasn't done alot to recruit GOL, instead DL has tried to persuade GOL to join; remember DL purchased a very small percentage of GOL (This is to stop GOL from joining any other alliance, other than ST) However DL said that this does not certify that GOL will join ST.

I think eventually GOL will join ST, LATAM will join OW and AV/TA will join *A.

For Virgin Australia it could go anywhere, VA has loads of codeshares not just with DL, you need to remember that ANZ has a shareholding stake between 10% and 14.99%, VA also has a codeshare alliance will SQ.

I my opinion it is more likely that *A is the better option, however at the end it could go anywhere.

In the future I think ST will have:
1. VC (Air Australia) only if VA joins *A
2. 6E (Indigo Airlines) only if 9W join *A
3. GOL
4. AH (Air Algerie)
What if 9W doesn;t join * Alliance. Fir all we know, AI and *Alliance might not be able to come to an agreement.

Originally Posted by g.yau
OW will have:
1. EY or GF
2. HU (Only if CX accepts them)
3. JQ (Jetstar)
4. TU (Tunis Air)
5. LATAM
6. BD (BMI)
7. UL (Sri Lankan Airline)
I would prefer UL to join Skyteam, but we don't always get what we want.

Originally Posted by g.yau
*A will have:
1. VA
2. QR (Qatar)
3. BR (Eva Airline)
4. PK (Pakistan Airline)
5. UN (Transaero)
AI and PK are quite similar. It's hard to believe that * would find PK acceptable when it did not found AI suitable.
PK brings to the alliance better connectivity to Pakistan for U.S./U.K. traffic. Few, if any European carriers fly to Pakistan.
Yaatri is offline  
Old Jan 3, 2012, 6:34 pm
  #677  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Programs: AA Gold AAdvantage Elite, Rapids Reward
Posts: 38,290
Originally Posted by Yaatri
AI and PK are quite similar. It's hard to believe that * would find PK acceptable when it did not found AI suitable.
PK brings to the alliance better connectivity to Pakistan for U.S./U.K. traffic. Few, if any European carriers fly to Pakistan.
Actually, it just only a limitation fflight to EU and they banned the A310 due to safety concerns.
N830MH is offline  
Old Jan 3, 2012, 6:38 pm
  #678  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Programs: AA Gold AAdvantage Elite, Rapids Reward
Posts: 38,290
Originally Posted by g.yau
OW will have:
1. EY or GF
2. HU (Only if CX accepts them)
3. JQ (Jetstar)
4. TU (Tunis Air)
5. LATAM
6. BD (BMI)
7. UL (Sri Lankan Airline)
Actually, BD is still in Star Alliance. BD doesn't leave from Star for a very long time. BD is still belonging to Star Alliance.
N830MH is offline  
Old Jan 3, 2012, 6:51 pm
  #679  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 22,778
Originally Posted by N830MH
Actually, it just only a limitation fflight to EU and they banned the A310 due to safety concerns.
I was not talking about PK flights, but absence of EU or US airlines at Pakistani airports.
Yaatri is offline  
Old Jan 3, 2012, 10:12 pm
  #680  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: GLA
Programs: AF/KL FB Plat 4L, VA Vel Silver, BA EC, LH M&M
Posts: 1,825
Originally Posted by N830MH
Actually, BD is still in Star Alliance. BD doesn't leave from Star for a very long time. BD is still belonging to Star Alliance.
BD has just been bought by BA. Planes, FFP, staff, slots, etc. are expected to become integrated into BA this year. So while BD as we know it will probably cease to exist as a brand, it makes sense to say that it will become part of OW.
cityflyer369 is offline  
Old Jan 4, 2012, 12:02 am
  #681  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Programs: AA Gold AAdvantage Elite, Rapids Reward
Posts: 38,290
Originally Posted by Yaatri
I was not talking about PK flights, but absence of EU or US airlines at Pakistani airports.
I believe you're right. That's why they won't let it in due to slot restrictions.
N830MH is offline  
Old Jan 4, 2012, 8:20 am
  #682  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 32
ST hasn't done alot to recruit GOL, instead DL has tried to persuade GOL to join; remember DL purchased a very small percentage of GOL (This is to stop GOL from joining any other alliance, other than ST) However DL said that this does not certify that GOL will join ST.
i'll add, not just DL that 'still in progress' to persuade GOL to join, another ST members which GOL already codeshared in (AFKL, AM, and AR -which in process to join ST-) now still try to push GOL hard to join ST.

In the future I think ST will have:
1. VC (Air Australia) only if VA joins *A
i doubt them join ST, due to limited number of destinations and planes.

4. AH (Air Algerie)
Last time i know, they'll face EU ban due safety issues.

What if 9W doesn't join * Alliance. Fir all we know, AI and *Alliance might not be able to come to an agreement.
hmm, i guess one of them will stay independent. or maybe both of them will join one alliance at same time. let's see later.

BD has just been bought by BA. Planes, FFP, staff, slots, etc. are expected to become integrated into BA this year. So while BD as we know it will probably cease to exist as a brand, it makes sense to say that it will become part of OW.
if this is true, so the remaining speculations now are Virgin Atlantic, Flybe, or (probably) Monarch Airlines.

(If Monarch Airlines included) Maybe just one of them will join. Or probably two. Maybe..
* Virgin Atlantic - Flybe to join ST (Monarch Airlines stay independent)
* Virgin Atlantic - Monarch Airlines to join ST (Flybe maybe stay at IAG)
* Flybe - Monarch Airlines to join ST (Virgin Atlantic join *A)
Spirow is offline  
Old Jan 11, 2012, 9:30 am
  #683  
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Programs: FB Platinum for Life
Posts: 1,019
According to this article:

SV will join in May this year
ME will join in June
AR will join in August
MF will join in November
GA will at the end of 2012
KQ321 is offline  
Old Jan 11, 2012, 3:19 pm
  #684  
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: BRU
Programs: A3/Gold, BA/Gold + other less precious metals
Posts: 2,641
Originally Posted by KQ321
According to this article:

SV will join in May this year
ME will join in June
AR will join in August
MF will join in November
GA will at the end of 2012
Now if this turns out to be true, 2012 will be a good year for SkyTeam.
nomad1974 is offline  
Old Jan 12, 2012, 8:24 am
  #685  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 32
Seems that GA taking more than 2 years to join (a little.longer than expected).
Spirow is offline  
Old Jan 12, 2012, 4:58 pm
  #686  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Programs: AA Gold AAdvantage Elite, Rapids Reward
Posts: 38,290
Originally Posted by KQ321
According to this article:

SV will join in May this year
ME will join in June
AR will join in August
MF will join in November
GA will at the end of 2012
Hmmm. I think it's good news to hear. I'm surely they will joined the SkyTeam. Who will be next new SkyTeam member in 2013?

Last edited by N830MH; Jan 12, 2012 at 5:10 pm
N830MH is offline  
Old Jan 12, 2012, 8:29 pm
  #687  
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Programs: UA 2P, HY Diamond
Posts: 232
Originally Posted by N830MH
Hmmm. I think it's good news to hear. I'm surely they will joined the SkyTeam. Who will be next new SkyTeam member in 2013?
AA?
efox is offline  
Old Jan 12, 2012, 8:29 pm
  #688  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 32
I can say maybe..

* Olympic air, as they now focused on regional routes and codeshares.
* JAT, as they'll quit codeshare with LH this year.
* Sichuan Airlines, as they'll open Amsterdam this year (which is one of ST hub)

Say that i'm a bit not understand on that article in part that discuss Indian Airline part. But i can say, ST seems not interested to recruit AI as they have 'dramatic' financial problems. so maybe they'll choose between 9W, 6E, or UL.

If ST success persuade GOL to join ST, GOL seems next to join too.
Spirow is offline  
Old Jan 12, 2012, 8:33 pm
  #689  
Four Seasons Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Fairfield County, CT USA
Programs: AA PLT+2MM / DL DM+1MM / A3 *G / Fairmont LT Plat / Ritz Gold / SPG Gold
Posts: 4,077
Originally Posted by efox
AA?
NYBanker is offline  
Old Jan 13, 2012, 7:47 am
  #690  
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: SUX
Programs: BA Silver; HHonors Gold; SPG Gold; Points but dirt with everyone else
Posts: 8,050
Originally Posted by nomad1974
Now if this turns out to be true, 2012 will be a good year for SkyTeam.
Oh, joy! SV will be the first to join. I'm sure there will be another PR debacle for DL wrapped up in that one.
mtkeller is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.