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RTW on Skyteam?
Does anyone know if it would make a significant difference if I bought a RTW ticket starting in France from KLM or AF? Or I could start my trip from Belgium or NL or Switzerland or anywhere else close I guess. I'm FP Rouge if that matters.
The skyteam.com link below shows a link for terms and conditions. I would look there first--then maybe some folks here could answer specific questions.
Amsams Fr-22oct4 Af Eur1949.00r Vrtwsky4 Stay 10 Bk-v
Amsams Fr-22oct4 Af Eur1949.00r Vrtwsky4 Stay 10 Bk-v
0. Application And Other Conditions
Rule - 346/1af1
Skyteam Round-the-world Fare Applicable To Af For Joint
Transportation With Am / Az / Dl / Ke / Ok
Application
Class Of Service:
These Fares Apply For First/business/economy Class
Service.
Types Of Transportation :
Fares Governed By This Rule Can Be Used To Create
Round-the-world Journeys.
These Fares Apply For Round-the-world Travel
To/from The Countries Served By The Participating
Carriers In This Rule.
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Travel Must Commence From And Return To The Same
Country.are Considered As One Country
Scandinavia / Canada And U.s. / South America/
Southwest Pacific / Middle East / Hkg And China .
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Itinerary May Reflect Travel Greather Than Round
The World Provided It Is Not Via The Point Of
Origin And Still Terminates In The Country Of
Origin.
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Intercontinental Travel Shall Be Defined As Travel
From One Continent To Another.
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Travel Between Points In Central America And
Points In South America/north America/mexico
Shall Not Be Considered Intercontinantal Travel.
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Travel Must Include Only One Transatlantic
Crossing Between Area1 And Area 2 / Only One
Transpacific Crossing Between Area1 And Area 3/
And Only One Transcontinental Crossing Between
Area 2 And Area3.
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Fares Only Apply If Purchased Before Departure .
Capacity Limitations
Af/am/az/dl/ke/ok Shall Limit Number Of Passengers
Carried On Any Given Flight At Fares Governed By
This Rule And Such Fares Will Not Necessarily
Be Available On All Flights. The Number Of Seats
That Each Carrier Shall Make Available On Any
Given Flight Will Be Determined By The Carriers
Best Judgement.
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On Sectors Where First/business Class Is Not
Offered/available At The Time Of Booking -
Passengers Will Be Accomodated In The Next Lower
Class. No Refund Will Apply.
Exception - On Sectors Within/between The
Continental U.s./canada Where Business Class Is
Not Offered - Passengers Will Be Accomodated In
First Class Subject To Availability Of Seats At
The Time Of Booking At A Surcharge /q/ Of
Usd100.00 Per Flight Segment.
Other Conditions
Passenger Expenses Shall Not Be Absorbed By The
Carriers.
Unaccompanied Child 2-11 Will Not Be Accepted For
Travel At Fares Governed By This Rule.
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Free Baggage Allowance - Piece Concept
4. Flight Application
The Fare Component Must Not Be On
One Or More Of The Following
Af Flights 4700 Through 4999
Af Flights 8000 Through 8999
Am Flights 3000 Through 4999
Am Flights 7000 Through 7999
Dl Flights 2600 Through 3599
Dl Flights 5950 Through 6057
Dl Flights 6095 Through 6119
Dl Flights 6550 Through 7609
Dl Flights 7780 Through 7849
Dl Flights 8660 Through 8709
Dl Flights 8770 Through 9024
Dl Flights 9840 Through 9899
Ok Flights 3000 Through 4999
Az Flights 3000 Through 3999
Az Flights 7000 Through 7999.
And
The Fare Component Must Be On
One Or More Of The Following
Any Af Flight
Any Am Flight
Any Az Flight
Any Dl Flight
Any Ke Flight
Any Ok Flight.
Note -
Exceptions -
Travel Must Include Only One Transatlantic
Crossing And Only One Transpacific Crossing
The Entire Journey Is Subject To The Following
Permitted Mileage Per Fare.
39000 For Rtwsky1 Fares
34000 For Rtwsky2 Fares
29000 For Rtwsky3 Fares
26000 For Rtwsky4 Fares
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Except For Fares Originating In Australia /
New Caledonia / New Zealand / Fidji /
French Polynesia
44000 For Rtwsky1 Fares
39000 For Rtwsky2 Fares
34000 For Rtwsky3 Fares
29000 For Rtwsky4 Fares.
5. Advance Res/ticketing
Note -
For Travel Originating In Area 2/3 -
Reservations And Ticket Issuance Must Be Made At
Any Time Prior To Departure For Sectors Up To And
Including The First Intercontinental Sector.
Other Sectors May Be Booked At Any Time.
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For Travel Originating In Area 1 -
Reservations And Ticket Issuance Must Be Made 7
Days Prior To Departure For Sectors Up To And
Including The First Intercontinental Sector.
Other Sectors May Be Booked At Any Time.
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Rtw Booking Classes By Carrier --
Cxr First Business Economy
Af F D T
Af Exception Applicable To Af Flights Within
Europe And Between France And Tlv
D D W
Af Exception Applicable To Vrtwsky4 Fares
- - V
Am J J S
Am Exception Applicable To Krtwsky4 Fares
- - K
Dl A D H
Dl Exception Applicable To Dl Shuttle Services
Between Bos/dca/lga
Y Y H
Dl Exception Applicable To Qrtwsky4 Fares
- - Q
Ke F/p C H
Ke Exception Applicable To Flights Within Korea
C/y C/y Y
Ke Exception Applicable To Hrtwsky4 Fares
- - H
Ok D D Q
--travel On Dl Operated International Sectors Is
Offered In Business And Economy Class Only.
Az J D K
Az Exception Applicable To Az Flights Within Italy
Y Y K
Az Exception Applicable To Az International
Flights Within Europe
Z Z T
Az Exception Applicable To Vrtwsky4 Fares
- - V
Az Exception Applicable To Vrtwsky4 On Az
Flights Within Europe
- - N
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Travel On The Last Intercontinental Sector Must
Commence No Earlier Than 10 Days After
Commencement Of The First Intercontinental
Sector.
7. Maximum Stay
Return Travel From Last Stopover Must Commence No Later
Than 12 Months After Departure From Fare Origin.
8. Stopovers
Note -
Minimum 3 Stopovers Required And Maximum 15
Stopovers Permitted Application Of Stopovers -
-exception Applicable To -rtwsky4 Type Fares
Minimum 3 Stopovers Required And Maximum 5
Stopovers Permitted. Application Of Stopovers-
Maximum Of One Stopover Permitted In Any One City.
-not More Than 5 Stopovers Permitted Within
Australia.
-not More Than 5 Stopovers Permitted Within
Continental Usa/canada.
-not More Than 3 Stopovers Permitted Within Japan.
For Travel Originating In Australia -
Stopovers Permitted At Australian International
Gateways Only.
For Travel Originating In Europe -
Not More Than 5 Stopovers Permitted Within Europe.
For Travel Originating In Ppt -
One Additional Stopover Is Permitted In Lax.
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The Following Points/airports Shall Be Considered
As One City --
- Nyc/jfk/lga/ewr
- Bwi/was/iad/dca
- Fll/mia/pbi
- Lax/ont/sna
- Sfo/oak/sjc
- Osa/kix/itm
9. Transfers
Note -
For Travel Originating In Australia -
Only 1 Transfer Outbound And 1 Transfer Inbound
Permitted Within Australia To/from The
International Gateway.
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For Travel Originating In Germany -
Only 1 Transfer Outbound And 1 Transfer Inbound
Permitted Within Germany.
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For Travel Originating In France -
Only 1 Transfer Outbound And 1 Transfer Inbound
Permitted Within France.
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For Travel Originating In Italy
Only 1 Transfer Outbound And 1 Transfer Inbound
Permitted Within Italy.
---
For Travel Originating In New Zealand -
Only 1 Transfer Outbound And 1 Transfer Inbound
Permitted Within New Zealand.
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Unless Otherwise Specified -
Not More Than 1 International Departure And Not
More Than 1 International Arrival Is Permitted In
The Country Of Origin Except That Not More Than 2
International Departures And Not More Than 2
International Arrivals Are Permitted In Usa/canada
/mexico When Usa/canada/mexico Is Country Of
Origin.
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Surface Sectors -
Intermediate Surface Sectors Permitted At
Passengers Expense.
Mileage For Surface Sectors Must Be Included In
The Maximum Permitted Mileage Calculation.
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Side Trips To/from Nou
-valid On Af Stock Only-
A Side Trip At A Charge Is Permitted On Sb
Services Between Nou And Akl/bne/syd/nan/ppt.
Mileage For This Sector Must Be Included In The
Mpm Calculation.
Ticket On Sb Services Should Be Issued Separatly
In Conjonction With The Skyteam Rtw Ticket.
- Forfait - Should Appear In The Fare Amount Box
Fare Basis Code To Be Used As Follows.
Fares Published In Euros To Be Converted If Needed
To The Currency Of The Country Of Origin At The
Bsr.
- Rbd On Sb Services D D K
Dsbrtwow Dsbrtwrt Ksbrtwow
Nou-akl/bne/syd/nan 389 778 167
Nou-ppt 606 1212 261
K
Ksbrtwrt
Nou-akl/bne/syd/nan 334
Nou-ppt 522
10. Permitted Combinations
Double Open Jaws Not Permitted.
End-on-end Not Permitted.
Add-ons Not Permitted.
Open Jaws/round Trips/circle Trips
Fares May Be Combined On A Half Round Trip Basis
-to Form Single Open Jaws At The Point Of Origin/round
Trips/circle Trips.
Open Jaws/round Trips/circle Trips Note -
Combinations Are Permitted With Skyteam Euro Pass
Provided -
Combinations Are With Any Fare Of The Same Fare Class
For Carrier Af/am/az/dl/ke/ok In This Rule And Tariff.
12. Surcharges
A Surcharge Applies.
Note -
On Sectors Within/between The Continental U.s./
Canada Where Business Class Is Not Offered -
Passengers Will Be Accomodted In First Class.
Subject To Availability Of Seats At The Time Of
Booking At A Surcharge /1/ Of Usd 100.00 Per
Flight Of One Stopover Permitted In Any One City.
Segment.
No Surcharge Applies For Passengers Paying First
Class Rtw Fares.
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Note -
Ticket Must Be Issued On Af/am/az/dl/ke/ok Stock
Only
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Fare Basis Codes Shall Apply As Follows --
Cxr First Business Economy
Af Frtwsky1/2/3 Drtwsky1/2/3 Trtwsky1/2/3
Vrtwsky4
Am Jrtwsky1/2/3 Jrtwsky1/2/3 Srtwsky1/2/3
Krtwsky4
Ke Frtwsky1/2/3 Crtwsky1/2/3 Hrtwsky1/2/3
Hrtwsky4
Ok Drtwsky1/2/3 Drtwsky1/2/3 Qrtwsky1/2/3
Qrtwsky4
Az Zrwsky1/2/3 Lrwsky1/2/3
Vrwsky4
Fares For Travel Originating In A Country For
Which A Specified Local Currency Fare Is Not
Shown Will Be The Fare Applicable From The Usa
Converted To The Currency Of The Country Of Origin
At The Bankers Selling Rate.
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Not Applicable To Sale In Canada / Usa
In Case Of Soto/soti/sito The Fare To Be Paid
Shall Be The Fare Applicable From The Point Of
Origin Or The Fare Applicable From The Point Of
Payment Whichever Is Higher .
16. Penalties
Note -
Before Departure
For Travel Originating In Area 1
Before Ticketing Deadline
Permitted
After Ticketing Deadline
--no Changes Permitted On The Outbound Sector Up
To And Including First Intercontinental Sector.
--for All Other Sectors Rebooking/revalidation
Permitted At No Charge.
--rerouting/reissue Permitted At A Charge Of
Usd75.00/ltl300.00/lvl48.00 Per Reissue.
Child/infant Discounts Do Not Apply.
For Travel Originating In Area 2/3
Permitted.
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After Departure
Applicable To All Countries
--no Changes Permited On Remaining Outbound
Sectors Up To And Including First Intercontinental
Sector.
--for All Other Sectors Rebooking/revalidation
Permitted At No Charge.
--rerouting/reissue Permitted At A Charge Of
Usd75.00/ltl 300.00/lvl 48.00 Per Reissue.
Child/infant Discounts Do Not Apply.
Exception -
In The Event Of Death Of The Passenger As
Evidenced By A Certificate - Members Of The
Passengers Immediate Family Or Accompanying
00ssenger May Reroute The Remainder Of The
Journey Without Charge.
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Rerouting Guidelines
Tpm/s Must Be Recalculated For The New Routing
From The Point Of Origin.
--if New Routing Results In Miles Greater Than
Maximum Permitted Miles Collect The Difference
Between The Fare Paid And The New Applicable Fare
For Usd75.00/ltl300.00/lvl48.00 Per Reissue. Child
/ Infant Discount No Apply.
--if New Routing Results In Fewer Miles Than
Original Permitted Miles - The Original Fare Still
Applies Plus Rerouting Charge Of Usd75.00/ltl300.0
0/lvl48.00 Per Reissue. No Refund Will Apply. Chil
D/infant Discounts Do Not Apply.
Exception -
In The Event Of Death Of The Passenger As
Evidenced By A Certificate - Members Of Passengers
Immediate Family Or Accompanying Passenger May
Reroute The Remainder Of The Journey Without
Charge.
--if New Routing Is No Longer Round-the-world
Travel - Collect The Difference If Any Between The
Fare Paid And The Applicable Fare For The New
Journey Calculated From The Point Of Origin Plus A
Rerouting Charge Of Usd75.00/ltl 300.00/lvl48.00 P
Er Reissue. No Refund Will Apply If The Recalculat
Ed Fare For The New Journey Is Lower Than The Roun
D- The-world Fare Paid. Child/infant Discount Do
Not Apply.
For Upgrading/reissue - See Credit Toward Further
Transportation Below.
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Cancellations
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Before Departure
For Travel Originating In Area 1
Before Ticketing Deadline -
Full Refund Apply.
After Ticketing Deadline For Cancel/noshow/refund-
Charge 10 Percent Of The Fare Paid.
Exception -
In The Event Of Death Of Passenger/family Member
Or Accompanying Passenger As Evidenced By A
Certificate The Non-refundable Amount May Be Used
As A Credit Towards Payment Of An Equivalent Or
Higher Applicable Fare. The Original
Non-refundable Amount Remains Non-refundable.
For Travel Originating In Area 2/3
No Penalty Applies.
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After Departure
Applicable To All Countries
--refund If Any Will Be The Difference Between
The Fare Paid And The Applicable Fare For The
Journey Travelled.
--no Refund Applies When Downgrading From A
Higher Round-the World Fare To A Lower Round-the-
World Fare.
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Credit Towards Further Transportation
Tickets May Be Upgraded From A Lower Round-the-
World Fare To Higher Round-the-world Fare Upon
Payment Of The Difference In Fare Recalculated
From The Point Of Origin Plus The Reissue Charge
Of Usd75.00/ltl 300.00/lvl48.00. Child / Infant Di
Scount Do Not Apply.
18. Ticket Endorsements
Note -
The Original And The Reissued Ticket Must Be
Annotated In The Endorsement Box As Follows -
Valid Af/am/az/dl/ke/ok Only / Non-ref
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Endorsement Is Not Required Between
Af/am/az/dl/ke/ok When Reissued.
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Tickets Must Shown By The Use Of An Insert Or
Sticker That Travel Is At A Special Fare And
Subject To Special Conditions.
22. All Other Discounts
Note -
All Other Discounts Not Permitted.
90. Other
Atp Rw/1af1/af
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caution!
What truly sucks on a SkyTeam RTW in Business Class is that you either sit in coach or fork over another USD 100 per segment to be seated in domestic F.
I think that somewhere in the past the prices for different zones/countries were posted. One important point, in the US they are 7 day advance and in much of Europe they can be bought last minute.
Many thanks for the price list... I've converted the prices to EUR and USD and sorted by cheapest F tickets. I wonder if Tunisia is correct, as it seems ridiculously high. In addition, I didn't have exchange rates for New Caledonia, Polynesia, Samoa, Slovakia and Tonga. I'll fix those later.
The F out of Egypt is very cheap indeed. Now if there were only decent F on SkyTeam... I think I'll stick with oneworld for RTWs for now.
