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Old Sep 21, 12, 9:27 pm   #1
 
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Find Delta Partners Award Availability

I'm trying to find a source where I can search partners award availability using my Delta points. Is there any other way of searching other then calling Delta over and over trying to find a competent agent? I get so frustrated that I can't see Aeromexico or Korean Air, China Southern seats.
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Old Sep 22, 12, 1:34 am   #2
 
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This tool (put together by sbm12) searches Aeroflot, China Southern, Czech Airlines, Korean Air, Shanghai Airlines (part of China Eastern), Tarom and Vietnam Airlines:

http://www.wandr.me/Award-Search.aspx/
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This tool (put together by sbm12) searches Aeroflot, China Southern, Czech Airlines, Korean Air, Shanghai Airlines (part of China Eastern), Tarom and Vietnam Airlines:

http://www.wandr.me/Award-Search.aspx/
It can only see KE inventory on Korea-Japan routes (like every other tool), so it's pretty worthless for KE.

AM can be found on DL.dumb now. Many of the partners can be searched using the FlyingBlue engine on airfrance.us. "Classic" awards on flights other than AF/KL should be bookable with SkyMiles. Right now, there's something weird going on with DL and AF/KL when it comes to award tickets, so hard to tell what you might be able to book in that direction.
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I check KLM all the time but Delta always tells me no availability when I call. A few agents have said that just because KLM shows it doesn't mean we will have it.
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I'm trying to find a source where I can search partners award availability using my Delta points. Is there any other way of searching other then calling Delta over and over trying to find a competent agent? I get so frustrated that I can't see Aeromexico or Korean Air, China Southern seats.
You may find the following thread in the DL SM Forum helpful:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...er-thread.html
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Old Sep 22, 12, 2:02 pm   #6
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I check KLM all the time but Delta always tells me no availability when I call. A few agents have said that just because KLM shows it doesn't mean we will have it.
Is there a particular flight/date you are interested in?
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Old Sep 22, 12, 3:18 pm   #7
 
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I was thinking of renewing my KVS. Would KVS work for what I'm looking to do?
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I was thinking of renewing my KVS. Would KVS work for what I'm looking to do?
KVS Tool fully supports Award Availability on all SkyTeam airlines (except for KE, which no other Tool or service supports anyway), as well as most of DL SM non-alliance partners:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AwardUpgradeClasses_SkyTeam
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Old Sep 22, 12, 7:59 pm   #9
 
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So, let say I find an award space on Aero Mexico, will that say its available using my delta miles? When I find discounted award seats on KLM, Delta never seems to be able to find the space.
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Old Sep 22, 12, 8:10 pm   #10
 
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I just purchased the KVS again. I guess I'll play around and see what happens.
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Old Sep 22, 12, 9:58 pm   #11
 
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I was thinking of renewing my KVS. Would KVS work for what I'm looking to do?
There are free options as well that screen scrape from the same AirFrance award website that KVS does:

- http://AwardNexus.com
- http://www.awardtravelr.com
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I just did this, HNL to BKK. Only looking for upgrade to Business though.
I'm a Delta Plat and I could not get any seats through Japan, end of Oct is the end of their vacation season. I'm an Expertflyer subscriber so I went online to check all this. Used the Skyteam search and saw lots of KE, did a specific search of appropriate flights and saw lots of M/B/Y/Z buckets. KE shows max of 4.
Picked dates that had availability, then called Delta with those specific dates. They struck out on DL flights. I suggested KE after we discussed the whole Japan vacation thing. She immediately said no availability. I kept talking to her, knowing they were there. My plan B was to hang up and try another agent later.
But....she "found" the seats, and, this is the ICE CREAM, she booked the "B" seats at a reasonable fare, less than my last DL. 25,000 miles each way upgrade fee, and can't confirm specific seats till within 30 days of departure.

My only concern is what my Medallion qualification scenario is. I was assured by the agent that I will earn "100 %". Well with Delta I do better than that, so we shall see.
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I was looking at AMS-EBB availability in 2/13. KVS shows that on KQ CS=4, which I think means there should be 4 Biz seats, and it shows YX=0. However, when I call to have them book the flight via long sell, they tell me that there's no biz seats available, but there are Y seats available. Am I reading KVS wrong for KQ?
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I was looking at AMS-EBB availability in 2/13. KVS shows that on KQ CS=4, which I think means there should be 4 Biz seats, and it shows YX=0. However, when I call to have them book the flight via long sell, they tell me that there's no biz seats available, but there are Y seats available. Am I reading KVS wrong for KQ?
Those KQ C Award Seats are, indeed, available.

For tips on dealing with Agents, who may claim otherwise, please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AgentSaysNo

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.1/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/SkyTeam/FR-AF]
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AMS  Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM]
EBB  Entebbe UG [HUEN]
WED  13 Feb 2013 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KL         535     AMS   10:05     EBB   22:20              CX0  YS9
KL         1227    AMS   07:10     CDG   08:35              CS4  YS4
 -> KQ     113     CDG   11:00     NBO   21:30
 -> KQ     416     NBO   22:30     EBB   23:45
KL         1001    AMS   07:15     LHR   07:40              CS4  YX0
 -> KQ     101     LHR   19:00     NBO   06:30 +1
 -> KQ     410     NBO   07:55 +1  EBB   09:10 +1
KL         1229    AMS   08:00     CDG   09:25              CS4  YS4
 -> KQ     113     CDG   11:00     NBO   21:30
 -> KQ     416     NBO   22:30     EBB   23:45
KL         1007    AMS   08:35     LHR   09:00              CS4  YX0
 -> KQ     101     LHR   19:00     NBO   06:30 +1
 -> KQ     410     NBO   07:55 +1  EBB   09:10 +1
KL         1009    AMS   10:15     LHR   10:45              CS4  YX0
 -> KQ     101     LHR   19:00     NBO   06:30 +1
 -> KQ     410     NBO   07:55 +1  EBB   09:10 +1
KL         565     AMS   10:20     NBO   20:25              CS4  YS4
 -> KQ     416     NBO   22:30     EBB   23:45
KL         565     AMS   10:20     NBO   20:25              CS4  YX0
 -> KQ     410     NBO   07:55 +1  EBB   09:10 +1
KL         1019    AMS   13:55     LHR   14:25              CS4  YX0
 -> KQ     101     LHR   19:00     NBO   06:30 +1
 -> KQ     410     NBO   07:55 +1  EBB   09:10 +1
KL         1021    AMS   15:40     LHR   16:05              CS4  YX0
 -> KQ     101     LHR   19:00     NBO   06:30 +1
 -> KQ     410     NBO   07:55 +1  EBB   09:10 +1
KQ         117     AMS   20:40     NBO   07:00 +1           CS4  YX0
 -> KQ     410     NBO   07:55 +1  EBB   09:10 +1
KQ         117     AMS   20:40     NBO   07:00 +1           CS4  YX0
 -> KQ     414     NBO   17:50 +1  EBB   19:05 +1
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Old Dec 10, 12, 2:32 pm   #15
 
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I'm now looking at 2/18, but it also shows CS4, but they can't book it for a Biz award for me. I've called back twice and talked to 2 different reps, both of with are insistent that there's Y seats available from AMS-NBO on #117, but no Biz seats available. They say that O=0, so there's no award availability. Am I missing something here?

Edit to add: Now they said that they show Q=4, but they have no clue what Q is, and they can't book me into it. They still maintain that O=0, therefore I can't book a Biz award seat on the flight.

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