Re: the earlier question in this thread whether the SQ-only RTWs (EEZSQ, CEZSQ, and FEZSQ) apply to/from Houston -- according to the local SQ ticketing gurus, they do.
What's not completely clear to me is the C-class 77W supplement. The fare rules haven't been updated since May, 2007, and therefore make no reference to the amount of the supplement required for SQ61 and SQ62. For that matter, there's no amount specified for SQ331/332 or for SQ341/342 either, but as these are additional frequencies to CDG and ZRH, it's easy to mimic the specified supplement for the other flights.
There is a prohibition against using any of the SQ-only RTW fares on SQ21/22 and SQ37/38, irrespective of the fare paid. So, to answer my own question earlier, you could not use an FEZSQ fare to fly the A345. By the same token, the rule would have to be re-written to specifically exclude SQ61/62 if SQ doesn't want it apply on the Houston route.
Thanks for checking ex-IAH. I'm don't need this ticket yet but when I do I'll make certain my agent gets it.
I am checking into RTW from Canada/North America, and according to the agent who really didn't have a clue, these are the salient facts for a SQ only RTW:
Good for three months
Max 5 stopovers, no minimum
7 day advance purchase
$6699 CAD in F plus taxes and fuel surcharges determined by individual routing
No backtracking
Must cross both oceans
No surcharges for 777 on F RTW fare
So, presumably, this is a valid routing:
JFK-FRA-SIN-NRT-LAX
I would have to get myself to JFK and from LAX (no big deal, although will suffer after SQ service on the way home from LAX).
Questions:
The agent told me that stopovers had no minimum or max. stay - anyone know if that is true? I read here that 24h is required.
No surcharges on 777? Sounds too good to be true.
Mileage accumulation? I presume F accumulation, so for Air Canada Aeroplan, 150% EQMs
The agent told me it was possible to go to OZ/NZ, however, how could that be as I reasoned with her there is no way to get back from there on SQ without going through SIN?
If I went with that routing, are there any recommendations anyone would have to change it for better equip/routings - I don't need to be exactly in those specific cities listed, but nearby...
I suggest you read the past few pages of this thread as many of your questions are answered. For example, there is no way to get to AUS/NZ ex NAmerica.
FWIW, my itin is posted also, which is similar to what you want to do (less the AUS/NZ part).
Dorian
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I suggest you read the past few pages of this thread as many of your questions are answered. For example, there is no way to get to AUS/NZ ex NAmerica.
FWIW, my itin is posted also, which is similar to what you want to do (less the AUS/NZ part).
Dorian
Thanks, I realize that many of these questions were previously addressed in relatively recent posts. The reason for my "duplicate" questions is based on SQ apparently pulling and changing certain fares and itins effective around May 1st.
As we've noted, and you've been advised, you can use the SQ-only RTW in First for any itinerary beginning in North America, transiting both oceans in succession, and ending in North America.
The FEZSQ fare is good in first on 77W and 744 aircraft. It is NOT available on the A380, at least not in R. There's no F surcharge for 77W, only in C at C fares. I've used the FEZSQ in 77Ws between ZRH and SIN and between SIN and SFO. It's also good between SIN and FRA; SIN and MXP/BCN; and SIN and CDG.
As the man said, you not only can't go to Oz or Nz from SIN, you can't go anywhere else either, except back to North America or back to Europe, or to some intermediate point in the right direction (via Hong Kong, Tokyo, Seoul if east-around, or via India, Dubai, any point in Europe if west-around, etc.). You can always break between points in the same direction by using surface sectors or other carriers, ticketed separately.
You´ve understood the stopover and ticket limit conditions correctly. So far as I can tell, these fares from North America have not yet been withdrawn -- only those from Down Under.
As we've noted, and you've been advised, you can use the SQ-only RTW in First for any itinerary beginning in North America, transiting both oceans in succession, and ending in North America.
The FEZSQ fare is good in first on 77W and 744 aircraft. It is NOT available on the A380, at least not in R. There's no F surcharge for 77W, only in C at C fares. I've used the FEZSQ in 77Ws between ZRH and SIN and between SIN and SFO. It's also good between SIN and FRA; SIN and MXP/BCN; and SIN and CDG.
As the man said, you not only can't go to Oz or Nz from SIN, you can't go anywhere else either, except back to North America or back to Europe, or to some intermediate point in the right direction (via Hong Kong, Tokyo, Seoul if east-around, or via India, Dubai, any point in Europe if west-around, etc.). You can always break between points in the same direction by using surface sectors or other carriers, ticketed separately.
You´ve understood the stopover and ticket limit conditions correctly. So far as I can tell, these fares from North America have not yet been withdrawn -- only those from Down Under.
Sorry, I can not figure out how I could include India on an Itenirary if I start in North America !! Were you meaning an Open Jaw into India and out of Dubai or something like that?
I am interested in doing an SQ RTW in F and do need to include India so this would be very helpful.
You could include India only by inserting a blank segment between someplace like Frankfurt or Moscow and India. SQ does fly DME -- DXB, but so far as I know, the other Eurasian originating flights don't stop anywhere on the Indian subcontinent before arriving Singapore.
You could include India only by inserting a blank segment between someplace like Frankfurt or Moscow and India. SQ does fly DME -- DXB, but so far as I know, the other Eurasian originating flights don't stop anywhere on the Indian subcontinent before arriving Singapore.
Retired FF--here's a suggestion for India--JFK-FRA-SIN-DEL--TG to BKK--NRT-LAX (or JFK)--this is allowed and SQ has one flight BKK-NRT about 5 days a week.
Retired FF--here's a suggestion for India--JFK-FRA-SIN-DEL--TG to BKK--NRT-LAX (or JFK)--this is allowed and SQ has one flight BKK-NRT about 5 days a week.
By inserting one segment a few possiblities open up:
del-TPE-LAX (for now)
del-HKG-SFO
How could one do the "or JFK portion"? I don't think you could do that.
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Retired FF--here's a suggestion for India--JFK-FRA-SIN-DEL--TG to BKK--NRT-LAX (or JFK)--this is allowed and SQ has one flight BKK-NRT about 5 days a week.
Thanks for the suggestion, this helps. As I started working using this tip, I realized tht perhaps I was having a SENIOR MOMENT ( I AM retired ) when I asked the earlier question. I will be in BKK so I want to start my journey some pleace near BKK. Sin or Del were acceptable options as I could do a one way from BKK on TG. As I gather, I can NOT commence this in India or Thailand, so sin would have been the choice. The problem is that I want to do the RETURN from North America back to Asia 12 months later. I never inquired the validity of the ticket ex. Sin. I know ex. USA/Canada it is only three months and ex. Aus it is 12 months. I had the ex. Aus on my mind which was an option I was considering earlier. So before I plan any further, I need to find a way for a 12 month validity. Is this possible ex. Sin?
yes as F or C or Y fares they all earn miles.
