My next FEZSQ -- in a couple of weeks -- came to US$7144.50 all in ex-JFK, returning to SFO. They've all been in this range.
The "XT" tax category -- which I think includes any fuel surcharges -- is $410.70, so it's the lion's share of what's added over and above the USA base fare of $6699.00.
The ones ex-IAH have been somewhat less expensive; the XT is lower.
Hi Bitterroot
May I ask what your routing is?
Mine is JFK - FRA (stop) FRA - SIN (stop) SIN - ICN (stop) ICN - SFO
and I am being charged USD 582.90.
Curious if your routing is similar and where did you do your booking? I did mine via LAX office...
Just a comparison of "XT" from trip last Fall:
Routing: SFO/ICN/SIN/DME/IAH
Base: 6699.00 AY 2.50 US 30.80 XT...477.80..
Total $7210.10 US.
These figures came from the ticket receipt, and XT is not itemized.
Mine is JFK - FRA (stop) FRA - SIN (stop) SIN - ICN (stop) ICN - SFO
and I am being charged USD 582.90.
Curious if your routing is similar and where did you do your booking? I did mine via LAX office...
Thanks
Emp:
Just JFK -- SIN (stop); SIN -- SFO. I've noticed that the number of intermediate stops does affect the XT -- and as already noted, the SQ e-tickets don't break out the XT charges.
I have the San Francisco ex-city (now at SFO) ticket office make all bookings and issue the tickets.
Just JFK -- SIN (stop); SIN -- SFO. I've noticed that the number of intermediate stops does affect the XT -- and as already noted, the SQ e-tickets don't break out the XT charges.
I have the San Francisco ex-city (now at SFO) ticket office make all bookings and issue the tickets.
Hi B
For you to get to SIN from JFK you would need to fly via FRA and to get to SFO it is via SEL am I right? which would make your itin about the same as mine?
Well, I'm returning from SIN on SQ2, so via HKG, not ICN
-- but I often come back on SQ16, and I don't recall the total price being much different. I'll look through the stack tonight, and see what the comparison is.
Some trips, I stop in FRA, too, so I'll look at those as well. Seems to me the stopovers drive some of the XT, since that's where the overseas governmental and airport fees show up on tickets issued in the USA. The US taxes are shown separately on the e-ticket.
hmm they told me that it is USD 110 for fuel surcharges per long haul sector.
so if it is JFK - FRA that is one sector
FRA - SIN another
HKG - SFO another
so it doesn't matter about whether it is ICN or HKG...I will check with them again though and get back to you too...
You may be right, that the fuel charge component is calculated per stopover sector, but the XT charges still add up a bit oddly: the last JFK -- SIN (stop) SIN -- SFO before this next one cost $410.90 in XT (where'd the 20 cents come in, I wonder...); IAH -- SIN (stop) SIN -- SFO via ICN came to XT $342.80; the last JFK -- FRA (stop) FRA -- SIN (stop) SIN -- SFO via HKG cost XT $434.60, and a JFK -- FRA (stop; surface sector) LHR -- SIN (stop) SIN -- SFO via HKG cost XT $516.90.
The differences, other than the number of stopover sectors, are doubtless other stuff, like airport charges. The US AY is always $2.50, and the US Federal Tax is always $30.80.
Hi, I'm a OW person who will probably start using the FEZSQ fare because of the recent increase in OW AONEx fares. Still reading and trying to learn.
I understand that you can only transit a city once on FEZSQ fare. I also see that ex-TPE is about USD$1,000 less than ex-US. But, as far as I can tell, the only SQ flights to/from TPE are from/to SIN. So, how do you start and end in TPE without transiting SIN twice, or is there an exception for TPE?
I understand that you can only transit a city once on FEZSQ fare. I also see that ex-TPE is about USD$1,000 less than ex-US. But, as far as I can tell, the only SQ flights to/from TPE are from/to SIN. So, how do you start and end in TPE without transiting SIN twice, or is there an exception for TPE?
I don't believe there is an exception for TPE, so not sure it is possible. Check out prior discussion starting at post 276. It appears that one can buy the FESZQ in TPE for less than x-US but cannot actually use it to/from TPE.
I don't believe there is an exception for TPE, so not sure it is possible. Check out prior discussion starting at post 276. It appears that one can buy the FESZQ in TPE for less than x-US but cannot actually use it to/from TPE.
Yes, unfortunately. The xEZSQ fares ex-TPE have become phantom fares. They are not ticketable (is it a word?) anymore.
Not sure how you can buy FEZSQ in TPE for less than x-USA as fares are based on your point of origin.
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Isn't there something in the RTW rules about not transiting the same point more than once UNLESS unavoidable. Or have the rules changed recently? My *A RTW's out of Indonesia are now possible without double transits or backtracks because I dont include SQ, instead using TG via BKK or LH via CGK. But previously, on SQ RTW tickets, I was able to transit SIN both out and in because there was no choice on SQ. Perhaps there was a small supplement for the additional Indo-SIN-Indo sector, I don't recall, but I think that it all came under the standard F/RTW in Indonesia.
By extrapolation, I would infer that TPE would be directly analogous?
I'm just interested to know and am most prepared to stand corrected if I am out of date with this.
Not sure how you can buy FEZSQ in TPE for less than x-USA as fares are based on your point of origin.
In the OW world, we've been doing this for a long time. For a while, ex-MRU purchase was the cheapest, then ex-JNB, then ex-ICN and now back to ex-JNB. As long as the city doesn't change terribly often, it's easy and many people do it. When it was MRU, BA actually started to limit the number of F seats available to people who were doing this.
You buy a ticket to the cheapest point of purchase, let's say JNB, then you just start your RTW in JNB. So, for example, I live in BOS. Bought a separate ticket to JNB. Then started AONE4 and flew JNB-HKG-LAX-BOS.
Now I'm home, and just let the remainder of the ticket sit around. When I'm ready to start my next trip to Asia, I fly the remainder of my existing ticket, BOS-LHR-JNB. Here that ticket is complete, and I start the new itinerary.
Isn't there something in the RTW rules about not transiting the same point more than once UNLESS unavoidable. Or have the rules changed recently? [...] previously, on SQ RTW tickets, I was able to transit SIN both out and in because there was no choice on SQ. Perhaps there was a small supplement for the additional Indo-SIN-Indo sector, I don't recall, but I think that it all came under the standard F/RTW in Indonesia.
By extrapolation, I would infer that TPE would be directly analogous?
I'm just interested to know and am most prepared to stand corrected if I am out of date with this.
I'm not sure you're "out of date" with respect to *A RTW fare rules, but the SQ-only RTW is an entirely different creature, and has never allowed backtracking, or more than a single transit of a given city.
That's why it's now moot ex-TPE. The fare effectively died with the last run of SQ27-28......
Has anyone had any luck with getting the A380 on a FEZSQ fare? I'm about 2 weeks from confirming a business trip to Europe which I can tack on a vacation to but Paris only has the A380 running to it now.
Has anyone had any luck with getting the A380 on a FEZSQ fare? I'm about 2 weeks from confirming a business trip to Europe which I can tack on a vacation to but Paris only has the A380 running to it now.
The problem is that since there is no A class on the 380, you can't book a 380 flight on that fare. The only way to get on the 380 with that fare is to get lucky... book your A class FEZSQ fare on a 744 or 77W flight and hope that the equipment changes to a 380. SQ appears to be honoring the fare after the switch but only if the reservation was made (not sure about ticketed) before an announced equipment change.
As for your trip to Paris, you could always fly the 77W to ZRH (or 77W/744 to FRA) and then take the TGV. Best of all, you would avoid CDG.
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