Now, are there any printed rules anywhere? Their site says to call. Do I have to spend a certain amount of time in each stop? Or can they be connections ie. [JFK FRA SIN] - break - [SIN - ICN - SFO]?
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This is what I'm trying to do. I have a business class ticket being paid for of unlimited cost for travel to TPE.
YVR-LAX-TPE return is $7k'ish in J.
I figure I could do an SQ RTW in F which is a touch less cash.
Something like:
LAX-TPE-SIN-MOS-HOU
or
LAX-TPE-SIN-JFK
I couldn't find a max mileage rule for the SQ RTW.
Maybe throw SIN-SYD in the middle of the above?
Dorian
The above itineraries should be OK. Remember that the fare rule stipulates a minimum of 3 stopovers of at least 24 hours each, and the USA is counted a one stopover only. For 1st class, the booking is via "A" availability. Certainly SQ RTW's purchased in Australia for MEL or SYD departures allow transiting SIN more than once with a backtrack to Australia (to allow pax to return to point of origin). Not sure if you can include SIN-SYD return if originating your journey outside Australia. There is no max mileage as far as I am aware.
LAX-TPE (stop)- SIN (stop) - SYD (stop) - SIN - JFK (or HOU)
That might do it...as I'm not stopping in SIN the 2nd time, just connecting. How else could one do Australia otherwise (without being ex there)?
I don't think you can include Australia if you are ex-North America. The adding of the Houston-Moscow service seems to allow for more stops than in the past. It looks like you could do something like:
Actually I bought my SQ RTW from SYD.. great price from SQ office in SYDNEY. Was able to route SYD-SIN-NRT-LAX; then JFK-FRA..BCN-SIN-SYD.. Really great fare in first class
Is any information about RTW from Australia available from the SQ Australia website? I found the USA RTW fares from the SQ USA local promotions tab, but cannot see Australis RTW details/prices anywhere. Thanks
I called the Paris office and they quote the following prices, believe it or not...
F from €6498 to €13629
C from €4240 to €7995
I will say I have never had a more difficult agent from Singapore Airline than when asking about this, and that's saying something...
UK has the Great Escapade RTW rates, let you travel in SQ, NZ, and VA, allow backtracking and unlimited stops, max 29,000 miles Business class is £4395
Last edited by SingaporeDon; Apr 14, 08 at 11:29 am.
Now, are there any printed rules anywhere? Their site says to call. Do I have to spend a certain amount of time in each stop? Or can they be connections ie. [JFK FRA SIN] - break - [SIN - ICN - SFO]?
I could not find any rules on their sites either. I saw in one of the posts that the duration of the journey is limited to three months unlike other RTWs which allow you up to 12 months. Can any one confirm this or provide a link to the rules!!
Also, I live in Canada but can the journey be started in Bkk or SIN??
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I could not find any rules on their sites either. I saw in one of the posts that the duration of the journey is limited to three months unlike other RTWs which allow you up to 12 months. Can any one confirm this or provide a link to the rules!!
Also, I live in Canada but can the journey be started in Bkk or SIN??
Yes, it's only valid for 3 months.
BKK has no fare for this.
Yes, you may start from SIN. (But still no OZ sidetrip)
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RULES on SQ only RTW
Using the ex-USA C class fare as an example:
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
12 . CEZSQ/SQ APAC D R 5299.00 ---- 7 -/ 3M RW01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-NOT SUPPORTED
FROM-LAX TO-LAX CXR-SQ TVL-01JUN08 RULE-Q99R 334SITA/334
FARE BASIS-CEZSQ/SQ APAC SPECIAL FARE DIS-E VENDOR-SITA
FARE TYPE-BRW RT-BUSINESS CLASS AROUND THE WORLD
TARIFF FAMILY-Q DBE-CE FARE QUALITY-Y ROUTE CODE-63
USD 5299.00 6300 E01OCT04 D-INFINITY FC-CEZSQ FN-O
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 12NOV07/1434 EXPIRES INFINITY
50.RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS
SQ EASY APAC FARE
APPLICATION
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS
SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW/ROUND-THE-WORLD JOURNEYS.
OTHER CONDITIONS ‡
FARES ONLY APPLY IF PURCHASED BEFORE DEPARTURE.
EXCEPTION -
MAY BE USED FOR ENROUTE UPGRADING FROM A LOWER
FARE PROVIDED ALL CONDITIONS OF THESE FARES ARE
MET.
TRAVEL VIA BOTH THE ATLANTIC AND THE PACIFIC ON
SQ SERVICES ONLY.
FARES -
1.THIS FARE APPLIES ONLY WHEN PURCHASED BEFORE
DEPARTURE.
2.WHEN TICKETS ARE SOLD OUTSIDE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN
THE APPLICABLE LOCAL CURRENCY FARES SHALL BE
CONVERTED TO THE CURRENCY OF SALE AT BSR BUT
IN NO INSTANCE SHALL THE FARE BE LESS THAN THAT
APPLICABLE FROM THE COUNTRY OF SALE.
3.IF FARES ARE NOT SPECIFIED IN LOCAL CURRENCY
FROM COUNTRY OF SALE THE CORRESPONDING USD FARES
WILL BE USED FOR COMPARISON PURPOSE.
PASSENGER EXPENSES- ‡
EN ROUTE PASSENGER EXPENSES SHALL NOT BE ABSORBED
BY THE CARRIERS.
01.ELIGIBILITY
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
02.DAY/TIME
NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
03.SEASONALITY
NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
04.FLIGHT APPLICATION
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
SQ FLIGHTS 0021 THROUGH 0022
SQ FLIGHTS 0037 THROUGH 0038
SQ FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 7999
SQ FLIGHTS 9000 THROUGH 9999.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
TRAVEL ON SQ A345 NOT PERMITTED.
AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL FROM/TO ‡
SOUTHWEST PACIFIC ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY SQ FLIGHT.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
TRAVEL MUST BE IN A CONTINUOUS EASTBOUND OR
WESTBOUND GLOBAL DIRECTION.
TRAVEL BY SURFACE SECTORS WILL BE PERMITTED
PROVIDED THEY ARE AT THE PASSENGER OWN EXPENSES.
THE POINT AT WHICH THE PASSENGER REBOARDS SQ
SERVICES MUST BE IN THE SAME DIRECTION OF TRAVEL.
NO BACKTRACKING IS PERMITTED EXCEPT BTWN TWO SQ
EUROPEAN DESTINATIONS. THIS MAY BE BY SURFACE OR
VIA SQ SERVICES.
-SUBJECT TO TRAFFIC RIGHT RESTRICTIONS-
NO CITY MAY BE TRANSITTED MORE THAN ONCE IN THE
ENTIRE JOURNEY.
05.ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING
RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR DEPARTURE OF FIRST
INTERNATIONAL SECTOR ‡
RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE
DEPARTURE.
OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED AT
LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
TICKETING ENTRIES -
ALL TICKETS INCLUDING CONJUNCTION TICKETS MUST
SHOW THE COMPLETE FARE CONSTRUCTION IN VERTICAL
OR LINEAR - FARE CONSTRUCTION BOXES-
06.MINIMUM STAY
NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
07.MAXIMUM STAY
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
3 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
08.STOPOVERS
5 FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
-STOPOVERS ARE PERMITTED AT CITIES SERVED BY SQ.
-ROUTING CONDITIONS MUST BE OBSERVED. ‡
-STOPOVERS ARE SUB TO TRAFFIC RIGHT RESTRICTIONS.
09.TRANSFERS
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON
THE FARE COMPONENT.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
NO SPCL REQUIREMENTS.
TRAVEL BY SURFACE SECTORS WILL BE PERMITTED
PROVIDED THEY ARE AT THE PASSENGER OWN EXPENSES.
THE POINT AT WHICH THE PASSENGER REBOARDS SQ
SERVICES MUST BE IN THE SAME DIRECTION OF TRAVEL
10.COMBINATIONS
ROUND TRIPS NOT PERMITTED.
ADD-ONS PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS.
END-ON-END NOTE -
SIDE TRIP COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. ‡
PASSENGERS MAY PURCHASE AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE ANY
-VISIT AMERICA- OR OTHER FARES.
OPEN JAWS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/CIRCLE TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE OF A DIFFERENT FARE
TYPE FOR CARRIER SQ IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF.
11.BLACKOUT DATES
NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
12.SURCHARGES
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
A- SQ BUSINESS PLUS SURCHARGES ON B773ER NON-STOP
SERVICES
1-THE SURCHARGES BELOW WILL BE LEVIED ON BUSINESS
CLASS RTW PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON THE FOLLOWING
SQ B773ER NON-STOP SERVICES
SECTOR FLIGHT NUMBERS FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER
SIN-HKG V.V SQ 862/SQ 861 06 DECEMBER 2006 ‡
SIN-SEL V.V. SQ 016/SQ 015 21 MAR 2007
SIN-FRA V.V. SQ 326/SQ 325 02 MAY 2007
SIN-PAR V.V SQ 334/SQ 333 05 DECEMBER 2006
SIN-MIL V.V SQ 378/SQ 377 21 DECEMBER 2006
SIN-BCN V.V SQ 378/SQ 377 21 DECEMBER 2006
SIN-ZRH V.V. SQ 346/SQ 345 22 JAN 2007
SIN-SFO V.V. SQ 016/SQ 015 21 MAR 2007
SEL-SFO V.V. SQ 016/SQ 015 21 MAR 2007
2- B773ER SURCHARGES
SECTOR FLIGHT NUMBERS SURCHARGE PER SECTOR
SIN-HKG V.V SQ 862/SQ 861 USD 300
SIN-SEL V.V. SQ 016/SQ 015 USD300
SIN-FRA V.V. SQ 326/SQ 325 USD500
SIN-PAR V.V SQ 334/SQ 333 USD 500
SIN-MIL V.V SQ 378/SQ 377 USD 500
SIN-BCN V.V SQ 378/SQ 377 USD 500
SIN-ZRH V.V. SQ 346/SQ 345 USD500
SIN-SFO V.V. SQ 016/SQ 015 USD600
SEL-SFO V.V. SQ 016/SQ 015 USD500 ‡
3- THE SURCHARGE AMOUNTS MUST BE REFLECTED AS A
Q-SURCHARGE AFTER THE B773ER SECTOR
4-THE SURCHARGES WILL NOT APPLY TO FIRST CLASS RTW
PASSENGERS.
5- INFANTS NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT NO CHARGE
INFANTS OCCUPYING A SEAT NO DISCOUNT
NO OTHER DISCOUNTS APPLY
ONE OW/RT SIDE TRIP TO/FROM SIN IS PERMITTED ON
MI SERVICES.
SECTOR COW IN USD YOW IN USD
SIN-HKT/MES/PDG 216 115
SIN-MDC/PNH/RGN 390 220
SIN-BPN/UPG/REP 390 220
SIN-KMG/XMN/CEB/DVO/TRV 519 254
SIN-LGK 130 J-CLASS 100
SIN-CNX/AMI/SOC 302 148
-RT ADDON IS TWICE THE OW
13.ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED. ‡
14.TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 01OCT04.
15.SALES RESTRICTIONS
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 01OCT04.
16.PENALTIES
CANCELLATIONS
BEFORE DEPARTURE
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
.BEFORE DEADLINE - FULL REFUND
.AFTER DEADLINE/NO SHOW - 25PCT OF FARE PAID NOT
REFUNDABLE.
AFTER DEPARTURE
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
CANCELLATION - THE REFUND IF ANY WILL BE THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FARE PAID ‡
AND THE APPLICABLE NORMAL FARE FOR
THE JOURNEY COMPLETED LESS 25PCT.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
-THE NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT MUST NOT BE USED AS
CREDIT TOWARDS PURCHASE OF ANY OTHER FARE.
CHANGES
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
CHANGES AFTER DEADLINE-
1.FIRST INTERNATIONAL OUTBOUND SECTOR-CHANGES NOT
PERMITTED.
2.OTHER SECTORS
A.ONE TRANSACTION PERMITTED FREE
B.SUBSEQUENT CHANGES REQUIRING TICKET REISSUANCE
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The only exceptional from the ex-OZ fare which of course would include travel to/from Australia.
[quote=Guy Betsy;9569473] Yes, it's only valid for 3 months.
Then I guess this would not work for me. We do an RTW in C starting and finsihing in Thailand (we live in Canada) so would normally start the RTW in Jan/Feb of each year and then go back to Thailand the following Jan/Feb to get away from Canadian winters and then restart another RTW. When I saw the attractive SQ only prices in FIRST, thought this might be a better option but the 3 month limit would not allow us to do this. Thanks for the quick response.
