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I'm going to update this first post as more info flows in to create a 'master list' of all credit cards that offer a decent way of accruing miles - so please help out!

If you know of and/or use any other cards (or the ones already mentioned), please share your thoughts.

***ALL VALUES BELOW IN SINGAPORE DOLLARS (SGD)***
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In no particular order (apart from personal preference in terms of good-mileage opportunities):
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1. UOB PRVI Miles MC/AMEX (MASTERCARD RECENTLY INTRODUCED)

MC:
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...astercard.html
Amex:
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...amex_card.html
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...ard/microsite/



Mileage accrual: Earn 1.6 miles for every $1 spent (every $5 gives 8 miles). Earn 2.5 miles for every $1 spent OVERSEAS.

From 15 May 2015, the earn rate will be 1.4 miles for every $1 spent (every $5 gives 7 miles), and 2.4 miles for every $1 spent OVERSEAS (every $5 gives 12 miles).

Requirements: min. income $80,000.
Cost: First year free, then $406.60 (MC) or $256.80 (Amex) for main, first two supplementary always free. Annual fee waiver for Amex card if you charge $50,000 or more in a year.
Miles conversion fee: $25 per conversion.

Pros: Best mileage accrual rates for both local & overseas spend. 20,000 bonus miles and annual fee waiver with spend of $50,000 per year (both only for Amex card). $45 1-way airport transfer voucher for $1,000 overseas spend in a given quarter (Amex only).
Cons: AMEX not always accepted by merchants. Points allocated on every $5 spent, rounded down to next $5. Transfer in blocks of 5000 UNI$ points = 10,000 miles. Points are valid for 2 years (transfer before expiry and they will subsequently be valid for a further 3 years from the date of transfer to KrisFlyer).

2. UOB Preferred Platinum Visa

http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...visa_card.html



Mileage accrual: Earn a MASSIVE 4 miles for every $1 spent using VISA Paywave contactless payments (every $5 gives 10 UNI$ which equal 20 miles). Same incredible mileage-earning ratio for internet shopping with certain restrictions (travel-related, utilities, etc.). Earn 0.4 mile for every $1 for regular, signature-based payments (every $5 gives 1 UNI$ which equal 2 miles).

WARNING: from Jan 1st, 2015, earning 4 miles/$ is limited to the first $12,000 spent during the entire calendar year (via Paywave and online).

Keep in mind that some merchants offer different, non-mileage accruing awards with UOB cards which are called SMART$. Some popular merchants include Cold Storage, Guardian and Giant Supermarket. A full list of merchants where Paywave transactions will NOT earn miles can be found here:
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...smartclub.html

Requirements: min. income $30,000 ($60,000 for foreigners).
Cost: First year free, then $192.60 for main and $96.30 for supplementary. Unsure of any annual fee waiver conditions.
Miles conversion fee: $25 per conversion.

Pros: Incredible mileage accrual rates for Paywave transactions (not all merchants - some give SMART$ instead which are different rewards!) as well as internet transactions (some restrictions apply).
Cons: Points allocated on every $5 spent, rounded down to next $5. Transfer in blocks of 5000 UNI$ points = 10,000 miles. Points are valid for 2 years (transfer before expiry and they will subsequently be valid for a further 3 years from the date of transfer to KrisFlyer).

3. ANZ Travel Visa

http://www.anz.com/singapore/en/Pers...s/travel-card/



Mileage accrual: Earn 1.4 miles for every $1 spent (every $0.72 gives 1 mile). IMPORTANT: The entire charge is multiplied by 1.4 miles, including cents. 10,000 bonus miles for each annual membership renewal.

PROMOTION: EARN 2.8 miles/$ for direct flight bookings with Qantas and Jetstar airlines or retail spend in Australia and New Zealand.

Requirements: min. income $60,000 ($90,000 for foreigners).
Cost: First year free, then $200 for main and $100 for supplementary. Unsure of any annual fee waiver conditions.
Miles conversion fee: $25 per conversion.

Pros: Decent card for local spend. Charge >S$1,500 every 30 days and get a free limo ride to airport. Transfer in blocks of 2,000 miles.
Cons: No internet banking. Points are valid for 5 years (transfer before expiry and they will subsequently be valid for a further 3 years from the date of transfer to KrisFlyer).

4. Citi PremierMiles Visa

http://www.citibank.com.sg/gcb/credi...s/cc_xx_pm.htm
http://www.citibank.com.sg/global_do...iles/index.htm



Mileage accrual: Earn 1.2 miles for every $1 spent (every $0.83 gives 1 mile). Earn 2 miles for every $1 spent OVERSEAS. 10,000 bonus miles for each annual membership renewal.

Requirements: min. income $60,000. Principal cardholder must be at least 21 years of age.
Cost: First year free, then $192.60 for main, supplementary always free. Annual fee waiver available in exchange for forfeiting the 10,000 miles renewal bonus.
Miles conversion fee: $25 per conversion.

Pros: Decent all-rounder, good for overseas spend. Points never expire. Bonus miles for annual card renewal and spend >$50,000.
Cons: None except for local spend at only 1.2 miles/$.

5. DBS Altitude VISA/AMEX

http://www.dbs.com/sg/personal/cards...e/default.aspx
http://www.dbs.com/sg/personal/cards...e/default.aspx



Mileage accrual: Earn 1.2 miles for every $1 spent (every $5 gives 3 DBS points which equal 6 miles). Earn 2 miles for every $1 spent OVERSEAS.

Requirements: min. income $80,000.
Cost: First year free, then $180 for main and $90 for supplementary. Annual fee waiver if you charge $25,000 or more in a year.
Miles conversion fee: $42.80 annually for unlimited conversions.

Pros: Points never expire. No rounding down transaction amount to nearest $5 (calculation is done as follows: DBS points = 'transaction amount' multiplied by 3, divided by 5. Round down to nearest whole number. Each DBS point = 2 miles). Occasional bonus points promos, like the one during October-December where tickets purchases on Singapore Airlines, SilkAir, Cathay Pacific, Thai Airways and United Airlines (for travel anytime) generated 4 miles for every $1 spent! 10,000 miles renewal bonus if and only if you have to pay card renewal fees.
Cons: All local spend now down to 1.2 miles/$ (since Dec 1, 2013). AMEX not always accepted by merchants. Transfer in blocks of 5000 DBS points = 10,000 miles (on the plus side points don't expire).

6. Maybank Horizon Platinum Visa

http://info.maybank2u.com.sg/persona...visa-card.aspx



Mileage accrual: Earn 2 miles for every $1 spent on air tickets, perfumes & cosmetics purchased at Changi, and all overseas spend.

Earn 0.4 mile for every $1 spent elsewhere (1 mile for every $2.50 spent).

Requirements: min. income $30,000 ($80,000 for foreigners).
Cost: $150 for main, supplementary always free. Unsure of any annual fee waiver conditions.
Miles conversion fee: free.

Pros: Great for ticket purchases and overseas spend.
Cons: Great ONLY for ticket purchases and overseas spend. Points are valid for 1 year only, expire either on 30 June or 31 December of the same year if not Rewards Infinite member. Need to transfer in blocks of 1250 points = 500 miles to transfer.

7. Singapore Airlines KrisFlyer Ascend AMEX

https://www.americanexpress.com/sg/s...nd-credit-card



Mileage accrual: Earn 1 mile for every $1.20 spent (every $1 gives 0.83 mile). Double miles for tickets bought at singaporeair.com for outbound departure from Singapore (offer does not apply to SilkAir).

Requirements: min. income $50,000 ($60,000 for foreigners). Principal cardholder must be over 21 years of age.
Cost: First year free for online application before 31 July 2013, otherwise $256.80 for main, 2 supplementary cards always free (more available at $80.25 each). Unsure of any annual fee waiver conditions.
Miles conversion fee: None - your KrisFlyer miles are transferred to your account directly with no conversion fees or charges.

Pros: None, except for a 5,000 miles sign-up bonus and other welcome/temporary offers (4 complimentary airport lounge access vouchers, one complimentary night with Millennium Hotels and Resorts, bonus 2x mileage earning rate for first 3 months).
Cons: Simply nothing special - there are better cards available for all types of purchases, including flight tickets, even with all of the bonuses above applied. Poor mileage accrual rate after first 3 months. AMEX not always accepted by merchants.

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Please pitch in with info about any other cards that could be of interest to us miles earners.




CITIBANK AND EXPEDIA PROMOTION
Inclusion list for Airlines:
  • Air France
  • Air India LTD.
  • Finnair
  • Eva Airways
  • Air China
  • Cathay Pacific
  • China Southern Airlines
  • Ethiopian Airlines
  • Garuda Indonesia
  • Transasia Airways
  • Gulf Air, Air Astana
  • Korean Air
  • KLM Royal Dutch Airlines
  • Latam Airlines Group
  • Malaysia Airlines
  • SilkAir
  • Air Mauritius
  • China Eastern Airlines
  • Air Macau Company
  • Bangkok Airways
  • Philippine Airlines
  • Air Niugini
  • Qatar Airways
  • Lao Airlines
  • Singapore Airlines
  • Turkish Airlines
  • Thai Airways Intl
  • Vietnam Airlines

The additional Citi dollars or Citi Miles or cash back will be credited to the customer's credit card account latest by:
  • Dec 31 2014 for all qualifying charges made at Expedia from Aug 1 to Oct 31 2014;
  • Mar 31 2015 for all qualifying charges made at Expedia from Nov 1 to Jan 31 2015;
  • Jun 30 2015 for all qualifying charges made at Expedia from Feb 1 to Apr 30 2015;
  • Sep 30 2015 for all qualifying charges made at Expedia from May 1 to Jul 31 2015;



CITIBANK AND AGODA PROMOTION

CITIBANK AND KALIGO

UOB AND EXPEDIA PROMOTION

ALWAYS READ AND UNDERSTAND THE TERMS & CONDITIONS BEFORE YOU BOOK.


ANZ Travel Card Veloce Lounge directory
Reduction of Lounges in SIN and no more access in KUL and DPS.


American Express« Singapore Airlines KrisFlyer Ascend Credit Card
COMPLIMENTARY NIGHTĺS STAY WITH PARTICIPATING MILLENNIUM HOTELS AND RESORTS
TERMS & CONDITIONS


Number of credit card transactions the Airline charges when booking for multiple pax in same itinerary
TZ: 1
AY: # pax
EY: 1
VN: # pax
AA online booking: # pax
AA via Expedia: # pax
9W via Zuji: # pax
PR via Travelocity: # pax
CX online booking: 1
CX phone booking: # pax
3K online booking: 1
MH via Expedia: 1
AI online booking: 1
SQ online booking: 1
SQ phone booking: # pax
KE online booking: # pax

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Old Jan 10, 13, 6:12 am   #1021
 
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Not sure what you want to know regarding issues...? It's just a simple Amex card

The limo service is not bad, used it a few times so far and every time I got one of those white Mercedes that comes and pick me up. Saves a good $20-30 depending on where you stay on the island.
Is the online banking system for checking transactions and everything similar to the DBS one? I'm considering giving it a shot as this is a card that I could keep even if I happen to move to a different country - they are probably the only ones who post such requirements on their site (nobody else even mentions the possibility of a non-resident being able to get a CC).

As for the limo service, this seems like a nice perk to have. Do you just sign off on whatever the meter reads or is it completely off (flat fee arranged by the bank)?
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Old Jan 10, 13, 9:13 am   #1022
 
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Not sure if anyone out there has a PPS Amex. Some changes that allow double points now at departments stores, Kris Shop & Tradewinds travel (). Most significant change is removal of 50% off Krisflyer redemption voucher associated with the card, for renewals from 1 March. I will certainly be discontinuing my PPS Amex card, as this was the one useful feature of the card. Annual fee increased from $150 to $267.50 also because of these "enhancements".
Cards issued by Amex in Singapore have been so crappy to start of with, they're only good for getting the initial sign-on miles. And this is really going down the dumps...
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Old Jan 10, 13, 9:42 pm   #1023
 
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Is the online banking system for checking transactions and everything similar to the DBS one? I'm considering giving it a shot as this is a card that I could keep even if I happen to move to a different country - they are probably the only ones who post such requirements on their site (nobody else even mentions the possibility of a non-resident being able to get a CC).

As for the limo service, this seems like a nice perk to have. Do you just sign off on whatever the meter reads or is it completely off (flat fee arranged by the bank)?
I have an account with UOB so I see the transactions there, it's quite straightforward, no frills. Not sure how it works if you don't have an account with UOB...

As for the limo service, the meter does not move. It's set on some category that will put a "Hired" on top of the car. Nothing to do at all. Just get on the car, ride, get off the car. Nothing to sign or pay. Just book at least 48H in advance I believe.
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Old Jan 11, 13, 7:46 am   #1024
 
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I have an account with UOB so I see the transactions there, it's quite straightforward, no frills. Not sure how it works if you don't have an account with UOB...

As for the limo service, the meter does not move. It's set on some category that will put a "Hired" on top of the car. Nothing to do at all. Just get on the car, ride, get off the car. Nothing to sign or pay. Just book at least 48H in advance I believe.
You can still get a internet banking account with UOB with just a credit card & access those info. You don't need to have a bank account.
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Old Jan 13, 13, 10:40 am   #1025
 
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Sorry to throw another question. I just noticed that DBS Woman's master card gives 4miles/S$ on all online retail purchase.

1) Can male apply? ;p

2) Are purchasing air tickets and booking hotels online considered as online retail purchase?

Anyone to share the experience with the card please?

Thanks!
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Old Jan 14, 13, 6:29 am   #1026
 
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Sorry to throw another question. I just noticed that DBS Woman's master card gives 4miles/S$ on all online retail purchase.

1) Can male apply? ;p

2) Are purchasing air tickets and booking hotels online considered as online retail purchase?

Anyone to share the experience with the card please?

Thanks!
Just some extra info I gathered. It seems there's a difference in the Platinum and World card earning rates.

S$1 = 1 point = 2 Krisflyer Miles. (5,000 points redeems 10,000 KF miles)

World Card earns 10x points per S$1.
Platinum Card earns 5x points per S$1.
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Old Jan 14, 13, 7:47 pm   #1027
 
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Sorry to throw another question. I just noticed that DBS Woman's master card gives 4miles/S$ on all online retail purchase.

1) Can male apply? ;p

2) Are purchasing air tickets and booking hotels online considered as online retail purchase?

Anyone to share the experience with the card please?

Thanks!
1) Yes. DBS does not discriminate Thru online internet banking if you have any POSB / DBS account. Almost instant decision / approval.

2) Anything as long as thru online web portals. Even paying bills via Vpost / Starhub, buying gift cards and vouchers.

Note - 10x points only for 1st $2k spend per CALENDAR month.
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Old Jan 14, 13, 10:25 pm   #1028
 
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1) Yes. DBS does not discriminate Thru online internet banking if you have any POSB / DBS account. Almost instant decision / approval.

2) Anything as long as thru online web portals. Even paying bills via Vpost / Starhub, buying gift cards and vouchers.

Note - 10x points only for 1st $2k spend per CALENDAR month.
Nice, thanks for the confirmation. Applied for the card and DBS Altitude as well, wish me luck.
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Old Jan 15, 13, 3:00 am   #1029
 
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1) Yes. DBS does not discriminate Thru online internet banking if you have any POSB / DBS account. Almost instant decision / approval.
So the best way to apply for CCs is online via internet banking? Will they then contact you if they need you to mail in any supporting documents?
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Old Jan 15, 13, 7:49 pm   #1030
 
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So the best way to apply for CCs is online via internet banking? Will they then contact you if they need you to mail in any supporting documents?
No from my own experience. Unless you do not meet the income requirements maybe? However, I believe if you have the DBS altitude visa, you internet application will be approved almost immediately.

I believed it took me less than 5 mouse clicks and 1 OTP to apply, saw the card reflected in internet banking the next working day. Card sent in less than a week. Fastest application ever.
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Thanks, I just looked through the online application process and it seems very easy and streamlined.

Just one question though - how do I get supplementary cards arranged? Preferable I would like to have both done simultaneously so that they have matching expiration dates and all..
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Old Jan 16, 13, 7:26 am   #1032
 
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No from my own experience. Unless you do not meet the income requirements maybe? However, I believe if you have the DBS altitude visa, you internet application will be approved almost immediately.

I believed it took me less than 5 mouse clicks and 1 OTP to apply, saw the card reflected in internet banking the next working day. Card sent in less than a week. Fastest application ever.
I applied easily enough and indicated that DBS was the crediting bank for my salary so that I did not have to submit any documents. It was approved but there was no review of my credit limit (my limit is still from my salary years ago, about half the current).

I then wrote in and asked and they increased it slightly (to about 2/3 of my Citibank card). Then I wrote in again asking for an increase as it was stated I could get 2-4 times of my monthly income (the limit they gave was less than 1.5 times my monthly).

They replied that from their records that the salary in their records was still the same as years ago and that I would have to submit income documents as proof if I wanted another review.

...!! If they had the service to evaluate from looking at your salary crediting account, why bother with income documents? I pay my bills in full and on time every month, so I'm hardly a credit risk. But they were adamant about it.

I'm going to clearout my miles in the Altitude card then cancel all my accounts with DBS. Really left a sour taste in my mouth. I will continue using my Citibank Premiermiles and perhaps apply for the ANZ Travel Card as they are having a roadshow at my office. *thumbsdown*
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Old Jan 16, 13, 8:36 am   #1033
 
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I applied easily enough and indicated that DBS was the crediting bank for my salary so that I did not have to submit any documents. It was approved but there was no review of my credit limit (my limit is still from my salary years ago, about half the current).

I then wrote in and asked and they increased it slightly (to about 2/3 of my Citibank card). Then I wrote in again asking for an increase as it was stated I could get 2-4 times of my monthly income (the limit they gave was less than 1.5 times my monthly).

They replied that from their records that the salary in their records was still the same as years ago and that I would have to submit income documents as proof if I wanted another review.

...!! If they had the service to evaluate from looking at your salary crediting

account, why bother with income documents? I pay my bills in full and on time
every month, so I'm hardly a credit risk. But they were adaman


I'm going to clearout my miles in the Altitude card then cancel all my accounts with DBS. Really left a sour taste in my mouth. I will continue usiadman
Citibank Premiermiles and perhaps apply for the ANZ Travel Card as they are having a roadshow at my office. *thumbsdown*

Allow me to weigh it in. In Singapore, a credit card centre of a bank is usually a separate entity n they will not be able to access ur salary credit records, n the parent bank is not allowed by law to disclose even those theybare under the same group. Thus u needvto submit income statement. If not they just rely on your old records n only if ur employment remains the same. If employment has changed, they can't issue u a new card as well
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Old Jan 16, 13, 8:52 am   #1034
 
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Allow me to weigh it in. In Singapore, a credit card centre of a bank is usually a separate entity n they will not be able to access ur salary credit records, n the parent bank is not allowed by law to disclose even those theybare under the same group. Thus u needvto submit income statement. If not they just rely on your old records n only if ur employment remains the same. If employment has changed, they can't issue u a new card as well
If that is the case, why did they give the option of indicating that DBS is your salary crediting bank without the need to submit any income documents when applying for the credit card?

So they can assess that I'm eligible for the Altitude card via that option, but when reviewing my credit limit suddenly that method is not good enough?

Edit: And yes, I have changed companies from the past records (indicated clearly in my Altitude application form)
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Old Jan 17, 13, 11:41 am   #1035
 
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UOB Privi

Looks like UOB. PRIVI Amex is best card now as it gives same 1.6 miles per S$1 spend as DBS Altitude Visa or Amex for local spend even for the first $2,000 spend per month. Also best card for overseas spend as it gives 2.5 miles per S$1 overseas spend (versus 2.4 miles for DBS Treasure's Amex Black and DBS Altitude

Wondering if it is time to switch to UOB PRIVI.

The only worry is no expiry for DBS versus two year expiry for UOB.
With Krisflyer'd three year expiry rule, DBS no expiry makes it a good place to hold miles but with UOB one won't be able to go this

Aster, I see you are switching to UOB too. Is the mileage expiry an issue for you?
Also is foreign transaction fee and FX rate similar for DBS and UOB?
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