Nov 25, 2016, 11:53 am
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
"Short Checking" -- the practice of checking bags to a location short of your travel destination is no longer permitted by UA (and many airlines). It is believed one reason for this is to discourage "Hidden City Ticketing."
There are a couple of exceptions / loopholes
-- Over nights in route stays -- you are overnight at a connecting city.
Long layover/connection check through baggage question (consolidated) (>12 hours)
UA policy on connecting bags requiring recheck
-- Port of entry for USA arrivals
At most USA port of entries, you will have clear customs and you then can exit with your baggage (or recheck).
This does not work at IAD mid-field arrivals since must clear TSA to exit.
Also PreClearance airports (where you clear immigration and customs at the departure international city -- such as most Canada-USA flights and DUB and some Caribbean)
There are a couple of exceptions / loopholes
-- Over nights in route stays -- you are overnight at a connecting city.
Long layover/connection check through baggage question (consolidated) (>12 hours)
UA policy on connecting bags requiring recheck
-- Port of entry for USA arrivals
At most USA port of entries, you will have clear customs and you then can exit with your baggage (or recheck).
This does not work at IAD mid-field arrivals since must clear TSA to exit.
Also PreClearance airports (where you clear immigration and customs at the departure international city -- such as most Canada-USA flights and DUB and some Caribbean)
Default time is 12 hours. A small number of individual stations are enabled to allow bags to be checked thru for connections greater than 12 hours. Maybe we can build a list based on people's experiences for certain connection points.
I know FCO is up to 16 hours. SIN, HND, FRA, MUC, ZRH, BRU should all allow up to 24 hours.
I know FCO is up to 16 hours. SIN, HND, FRA, MUC, ZRH, BRU should all allow up to 24 hours.
UA will not Short Check bags (but some loopholes)
Jul 23, 2008, 9:05 am
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UA will not Short Check bags (but some loopholes)
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Was told by the sup in sfo today that you cannot short check bags anymore. A liability risk for united as you xan get to your final destination and say you never wanted you bag to be short checked. I think its total crap. Now I have to store my bag in sfo airport for another day and a half, pay the fee and if my incoming flight is delayed run a risk of not being able to check it in.
Was told by the sup in sfo today that you cannot short check bags anymore. A liability risk for united as you xan get to your final destination and say you never wanted you bag to be short checked. I think its total crap. Now I have to store my bag in sfo airport for another day and a half, pay the fee and if my incoming flight is delayed run a risk of not being able to check it in.
Jul 23, 2008, 9:08 am
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Over the years, I've been given all sorts of excuses by a variety of US airlines on why they can't short-check bags. If they want to short-check the bag and think about it some, they can .... even if it requires handwriting the tag or toying with bookings.
Jul 23, 2008, 9:12 am
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GAs and sups make up stories all the time when either don't want to do something or don't know how to. I've got a classic case of "we can't check bags through to LH anymore" floating around FT somewhere. I was told an entire story about new security regulations, special processes at LHR to assist me with the recheck, etc. etc. All totally bogus. They just make rules up as they go.
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You're flying A-> B -> C, with a 3 hour layover in B.
You check a bag A -> B.
That is short checking.
IMO, the OP reflecting that this is now "officially" not doable is simply a case of an individual in SFO not wanting to do something.
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You check a bag A -> B.
That is short checking.
IMO, the OP reflecting that this is now "officially" not doable is simply a case of an individual in SFO not wanting to do something.
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I've been told as plausible a reason as any other: To prevent "Point beyond" ticketing.
Specific scenario was SFO-IAD-KWI-AUH. UA couldn't interline my bag through to AUH. However, a bag pick in KWI results in a obtaining a VISA ($). To avoid this, I asked to pick my bag in IAD so I could take as carry-on and gate check in KWI.
The response: "Well I don't think you bought a 9-thousand dollar ticket just to get to Washington. No problem." Seems logical.
Specific scenario was SFO-IAD-KWI-AUH. UA couldn't interline my bag through to AUH. However, a bag pick in KWI results in a obtaining a VISA ($). To avoid this, I asked to pick my bag in IAD so I could take as carry-on and gate check in KWI.
The response: "Well I don't think you bought a 9-thousand dollar ticket just to get to Washington. No problem." Seems logical.
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Just a few possibilities... there are others:
- If you have a long layover and want to have access to your bag.
- If you don't want to deal with a carryon because you know the first flight of an itin will be full, but you don't want to wait at baggage claim at your final destination.
- If you are doing throw away ticketing
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UA's Contract of Carriage prohibits this. If they informally allowed it before, that was lagniappe (now in short supply in the aviation industry).
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I've been told as plausible a reason as any other: To prevent "Point beyond" ticketing.
Specific scenario was SFO-IAD-KWI-AUH. UA couldn't interline my bag through to AUH. However, a bag pick in KWI results in a obtaining a VISA ($). To avoid this, I asked to pick my bag in IAD so I could take as carry-on and gate check in KWI.
The response: "Well I don't think you bought a 9-thousand dollar ticket just to get to Washington. No problem." Seems logical.
Specific scenario was SFO-IAD-KWI-AUH. UA couldn't interline my bag through to AUH. However, a bag pick in KWI results in a obtaining a VISA ($). To avoid this, I asked to pick my bag in IAD so I could take as carry-on and gate check in KWI.
The response: "Well I don't think you bought a 9-thousand dollar ticket just to get to Washington. No problem." Seems logical.
Jul 23, 2008, 1:28 pm
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C) BAGGAGE WILL NOT BE CHECKED:
I) TO A POINT THAT IS NOT ON THE PASSENGER'S ROUTING.
II) BEYOND THE PASSENGER'S NEXT POINT OF STOPOVER OR, IF THERE
IS NO STOPOVER, BEYOND THE FINAL DESTINATION DESIGNATED ON THE TICKET.
III) BEYOND A POINT AT WHICH THE PASSENGER WANTS TO RECLAIM THE
BAGGAGE OR ANY PORTION THEREOF.
IV) BEYOND THE POINT TO WHICH ALL APPLICABLE CHARGES HAVE BEEN
PAID.
V) BEYOND A POINT AT WHICH THE PASSENGER IS TO TRANSFER TO A
CONNECTING FLIGHT, IF THAT FLIGHT IS SCHEDULED TO DEPART FROM AN
AIRPORT DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE AT WHICH THE PASSENGER IS SCHEDULED TO
ARRIVE.
VI) TO A POINT WHICH IS INTERMEDIATE TO THE PASSENGER'S NEXT
POINT OF STOPOVER, OR IF NONE, INTERMEDIATE TO THE FINAL DESTINATION.
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Just a few possibilities... there are others:
- If you have a long layover and want to have access to your bag.
- If you don't want to deal with a carryon because you know the first flight of an itin will be full, but you don't want to wait at baggage claim at your final destination.
- If you are doing throw away ticketing
If I have items I don't want to take with me on my entire trip but want to drop off for someone else or for myself at an intermediate point before heading on to my ticketed stop/destination, then I do this. If I want to swap attire/gear used in one locality for fresh attire/gear for a different environment, then I do this -- this includes dropping off my laundry/dry cleaning.
