Rule Changes : Star 1/2/3/Special eff APR '08.
Mar 29, 2008, 12:39 am
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Rule Changes : Star 1/2/3/Special eff APR '08.
New Star rules distributed down here yesterday. The following are the changes I can find between the last rules and this new set.
Surprisingly, not many changes, (but one that is a 5 ^'s
) and another couple of ^ ones. Also some very good wording clarification to remove some grey areas.
Historically APR and/or MAY have been the dates of choice for Star springing either major fare and/or rule changes - as this one is a fairly tame release, I'm guessing there's more to come. Plan accordingly to your own degrees of fatalism or optimism.
Also no fare increases - at least in this market here on the 1/2/3 and Special
TK now permitted : ^ (Star 1/2/3/Special)
As of 01APR THY Turkish (TK) is permitted on the fares and their paper is permitted to be used to issue RTW tickets.
TK flights not eligible to be used on RTW's are
TK8702-8703, 8780-8822, 8827-8828, 8829-8854, 8869-8870, 8871-8898, 8900-8977
BOOK - Star Standard : A (First) D (Biz) M (Econ).
*Note - If A not offered or available book D. If D is not available use Y.
Para 5 - Advance Res/Ticketing (Star 1/2/3/Special)
Wording changed to reflect interpretation of "ticketing deadline" for economy fares.
"Ticketing Deadline based on original PNR creation date"
Wording changed on Star Special only to clarify "one day prior to departure". Wording now reads:
"Reservations and ticket issuance must be made at least 24 hours prior to departure"
Para 7 - Maximum Stay (Star 1/2/3/Special)
Change of wording - defines the 12 months after departure part of the rule.
"Return travel from last International stopover must commence no later than 12 months after departure on first sector".
Para 9 - Transfers
(Star 1/2/3/Special)
Official clarification now in writing that a surface segment requires a seperate coupon, using up one of your 24 permitted. Also same requirement for a multi-Airport city. Many have known this for some time, but it's now officially in the rules - perhaps one ticketing desk argument too many!
"Surface sectors and multiple airport cities require a seperate coupon."
Para 10 - Combinations ^^ (Star 1/2/3/Special)
Wording added to allow the RTW's be purchased/used in combination with any of the Airpasses.
"NOTE - one Europe, Africa, North America, Asia, China, Japan, Thailand OR South Pacific Star Alliance Airpass may be issued on a seperate ticket in conjunction with a Star Alliance RTW ticket".
Para 15 - Sales Restrictions ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ (Star 1/2/3/Special)
The country of sale/country of commencement rule about paying the higher of the two prices (exception Canada) appears to have vanished. No longer in the rules of the 1/2/3 or Special.
(That loud thump you just heard was the collective fainting and hitting the floor of travel agents all across Canada! )
Para 16 - Penalties ^ (Star 1/2/3/Special)
Finally ! Official clarification (be it good or bad, pending your point of view) on whether a change of carrier (IE - FRA-JFK was SQ now LH) is a reissue or a revalidation. It's finally in black and white and something to use in your arguments with uninformed ticket staff.
After the spiel about no changes to all segments up to and including First international/intercontinental segment, there is this new spiel. (Pertinent part italicised)
"For all other sectors rebooking/revalidation permitted at no charge. Also in case of E-Ticket for all other sectors changes to carrier/flights/dates permitted at no charge.
Rerouting/reissue permitted at a charge of USD125.00 Adult/Child/Infant per reissue. Changes in ticketed point/fare basis/fare amount permitted at a charge of USD125.00 Adult/Child/Infant."
Para 19 - Children Discounts (Star 1/2/3/Special)
New rule/clarification on infants turning into Children.
"If an infant turns 2 during the journey passenger may not travel as an infant and instead must occupy a seat priced at the Child level for the entire journey."
Surprisingly, not many changes, (but one that is a 5 ^'s
) and another couple of ^ ones. Also some very good wording clarification to remove some grey areas.Historically APR and/or MAY have been the dates of choice for Star springing either major fare and/or rule changes - as this one is a fairly tame release, I'm guessing there's more to come. Plan accordingly to your own degrees of fatalism or optimism.
Also no fare increases - at least in this market here on the 1/2/3 and Special
TK now permitted : ^ (Star 1/2/3/Special)
As of 01APR THY Turkish (TK) is permitted on the fares and their paper is permitted to be used to issue RTW tickets.
TK flights not eligible to be used on RTW's are
TK8702-8703, 8780-8822, 8827-8828, 8829-8854, 8869-8870, 8871-8898, 8900-8977
BOOK - Star Standard : A (First) D (Biz) M (Econ).
*Note - If A not offered or available book D. If D is not available use Y.
Para 5 - Advance Res/Ticketing (Star 1/2/3/Special)
Wording changed to reflect interpretation of "ticketing deadline" for economy fares.
"Ticketing Deadline based on original PNR creation date"
Wording changed on Star Special only to clarify "one day prior to departure". Wording now reads:
"Reservations and ticket issuance must be made at least 24 hours prior to departure"
Para 7 - Maximum Stay (Star 1/2/3/Special)
Change of wording - defines the 12 months after departure part of the rule.
"Return travel from last International stopover must commence no later than 12 months after departure on first sector".
Para 9 - Transfers
(Star 1/2/3/Special)Official clarification now in writing that a surface segment requires a seperate coupon, using up one of your 24 permitted. Also same requirement for a multi-Airport city. Many have known this for some time, but it's now officially in the rules - perhaps one ticketing desk argument too many!
"Surface sectors and multiple airport cities require a seperate coupon."
Para 10 - Combinations ^^ (Star 1/2/3/Special)
Wording added to allow the RTW's be purchased/used in combination with any of the Airpasses.
"NOTE - one Europe, Africa, North America, Asia, China, Japan, Thailand OR South Pacific Star Alliance Airpass may be issued on a seperate ticket in conjunction with a Star Alliance RTW ticket".
Para 15 - Sales Restrictions ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ (Star 1/2/3/Special)
The country of sale/country of commencement rule about paying the higher of the two prices (exception Canada) appears to have vanished. No longer in the rules of the 1/2/3 or Special.
(That loud thump you just heard was the collective fainting and hitting the floor of travel agents all across Canada!
)Para 16 - Penalties ^ (Star 1/2/3/Special)
Finally ! Official clarification (be it good or bad, pending your point of view) on whether a change of carrier (IE - FRA-JFK was SQ now LH) is a reissue or a revalidation. It's finally in black and white and something to use in your arguments with uninformed ticket staff.
After the spiel about no changes to all segments up to and including First international/intercontinental segment, there is this new spiel. (Pertinent part italicised)
"For all other sectors rebooking/revalidation permitted at no charge. Also in case of E-Ticket for all other sectors changes to carrier/flights/dates permitted at no charge.
Rerouting/reissue permitted at a charge of USD125.00 Adult/Child/Infant per reissue. Changes in ticketed point/fare basis/fare amount permitted at a charge of USD125.00 Adult/Child/Infant."
Para 19 - Children Discounts (Star 1/2/3/Special)
New rule/clarification on infants turning into Children.
"If an infant turns 2 during the journey passenger may not travel as an infant and instead must occupy a seat priced at the Child level for the entire journey."
Mar 29, 2008, 4:32 am
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Thanks for this (and all the other threads with new rules). ^
Is the complete set of rules available somewhere? Maybe as a PDF? The NZ site still has the old version.
Is the complete set of rules available somewhere? Maybe as a PDF? The NZ site still has the old version.
Mar 29, 2008, 1:20 pm
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I access them through a travel consolidator website using a password that still works from a long expired agency I used to work for.
I could probably do a cut and paste, but it's not worth it as it would take up pages and the NZ/SK type links are usually up and running with the updated rules fairly quickly. Sometimes they're even ahead of the consolidator.
I could probably do a cut and paste, but it's not worth it as it would take up pages and the NZ/SK type links are usually up and running with the updated rules fairly quickly. Sometimes they're even ahead of the consolidator.
Mar 29, 2008, 3:26 pm
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Interesting, thanks for posting this.
Have they dropped the "FARES FOR TRAVEL ORIGINATING IN NEW ZEALAND ARE AVAILABLE FOR POINT OF ORIGIN AKL WLG OR CHC ONLY" rule by any chance? This one is a pain if you want to start/finish a RTW by flying trans-tasman out of ZQN or DUD!
Have they dropped the "FARES FOR TRAVEL ORIGINATING IN NEW ZEALAND ARE AVAILABLE FOR POINT OF ORIGIN AKL WLG OR CHC ONLY" rule by any chance? This one is a pain if you want to start/finish a RTW by flying trans-tasman out of ZQN or DUD!
Mar 29, 2008, 8:38 pm
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Mar 29, 2008, 8:43 pm
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Just to clarify - does this mean that I can buy those cheap FRWSTAR ex-NRT tickets and start my itinerary ex-MEL (my new home)?
Mar 29, 2008, 8:48 pm
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It means you can buy the ex-NRT fare for the same price as they sell it in Japan, and not for the higher of the Japan or Australia price. But you still have to start the RTW from the origin point.
Mar 29, 2008, 9:19 pm
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Apr 4, 2008, 10:35 am
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The new rules are now available on the NZ Agents website: http://www.airnzagent.co.nz/resource...123-1apr08.pdf
Apr 5, 2008, 5:45 am
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Apr 5, 2008, 10:30 am
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Canada current RTW (plus fees and taxes of course):
YRWSPCL AC Round-Trip 4067.00 (CAD)
YRWSTAR1 AC Round-Trip 4737.00 (CAD)
YRWSTAR2 AC Round-Trip 5406.00 (CAD)
YRWSTAR3 AC Round-Trip 6179.00 (CAD)
CRWSTAR1 AC Round-Trip 10079.00 (CAD)
CRWSTAR2 AC Round-Trip 12126.00 (CAD)
CRWSTAR3 AC Round-Trip 13649.00 (CAD)
FRWSTAR1 AC Round-Trip 14279.00 (CAD)
FRWSTAR2 AC Round-Trip 16431.00 (CAD)
FRWSTAR3 AC Round-Trip 19319.00 (CAD)
YRWSPCL AC Round-Trip 4067.00 (CAD)
YRWSTAR1 AC Round-Trip 4737.00 (CAD)
YRWSTAR2 AC Round-Trip 5406.00 (CAD)
YRWSTAR3 AC Round-Trip 6179.00 (CAD)
CRWSTAR1 AC Round-Trip 10079.00 (CAD)
CRWSTAR2 AC Round-Trip 12126.00 (CAD)
CRWSTAR3 AC Round-Trip 13649.00 (CAD)
FRWSTAR1 AC Round-Trip 14279.00 (CAD)
FRWSTAR2 AC Round-Trip 16431.00 (CAD)
FRWSTAR3 AC Round-Trip 19319.00 (CAD)
Apr 6, 2008, 12:08 am
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Ok, but could you get it ticketed through Japan (say by ANA) for a RTW starting in MEL and pay the cheap Japan price, rather than the Aus price?