Federal Flight Deck Officer's Gun Goes Off During Flight
Mar 23, 2008, 1:50 pm
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Federal Flight Deck Officer's Gun Goes Off During Flight
Mar 23, 2008, 2:02 pm
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Somehow this was omitted from the Observer story:
After the shot rang out, the exclamation, "D'OH!" could be heard all the way in the back of the plane.
After the shot rang out, the exclamation, "D'OH!" could be heard all the way in the back of the plane.
Mar 23, 2008, 2:06 pm
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there is no fam involved in this incident but rather a ffdo which is either a captain or f/o who is caryying.
and let's be thankful that the round didn't pierce the skin of the a/c or break a window in the f/d as then you gonna have explosive decompression
The firearm of a Transportation Security Administration federal flight deck officer accidentally discharged.....
Mar 23, 2008, 2:08 pm
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That the aircraft landed safely is an indication that discharge of a firearm in flight is apparently at least somewhat less dangerous than many alarmists would have us believe.
I'd far rather have a marshall on every flight and scrap the TSA than have to have my civil liberties abrogated in the name of "security".
Mar 23, 2008, 2:58 pm
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Mar 23, 2008, 2:58 pm
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The article gives no details and it would be very easy to jump to conclusions.
That said, as one who carried a firearm every day for 33 years without an accidental discharge but had to investigate more than one such occurrence, I've got to think that one of two things most likely happened:
- He was carrying the weapon with a round in the chamber, under the hammer, which he should not have.
- or - somebody was screwing around, which he should not have been doing. This includes such things as "hey, Harry, show me your piece." The only answer to which is "sorry, no."
Either way, somebody is in trouble.
That said, as one who carried a firearm every day for 33 years without an accidental discharge but had to investigate more than one such occurrence, I've got to think that one of two things most likely happened:
- He was carrying the weapon with a round in the chamber, under the hammer, which he should not have.
- or - somebody was screwing around, which he should not have been doing. This includes such things as "hey, Harry, show me your piece." The only answer to which is "sorry, no."
Either way, somebody is in trouble.
Mar 23, 2008, 3:04 pm
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Glad the flight landed safely.
Mar 23, 2008, 3:09 pm
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Minor incident. Just wait, it's a matter of time until an unarmed person is killed by one of these guns or some serious damage is done to the plane or plane's equipment as a result of one of these guns going off at an inopportune moment.
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Mar 23, 2008, 3:34 pm
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The article gives no details and it would be very easy to jump to conclusions.
That said, as one who carried a firearm every day for 33 years without an accidental discharge but had to investigate more than one such occurrence, I've got to think that one of two things most likely happened:
- He was carrying the weapon with a round in the chamber, under the hammer, which he should not have.
That said, as one who carried a firearm every day for 33 years without an accidental discharge but had to investigate more than one such occurrence, I've got to think that one of two things most likely happened:
- He was carrying the weapon with a round in the chamber, under the hammer, which he should not have.
No serious force on the planet carries an unloaded weapon. An unloaded weapon is a club with moving parts.
I have an idea what happened, but will wait for some more info for the full debrief. I bet he was securing it and did so incorrectly.
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Mar 23, 2008, 4:14 pm
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so what does occur if say at 30,000 ft, the bullet goes thru one of the windows in the f/d and then the window itself is so badly damaged that it (for lack of a better term) falls apart. maybe i'm using the wrong term but wouldn't that be cause for the cabin to lose pressure?
Mar 23, 2008, 4:16 pm
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Mar 23, 2008, 4:32 pm
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so what does occur if say at 30,000 ft, the bullet goes thru one of the windows in the f/d and then the window itself is so badly damaged that it (for lack of a better term) falls apart. maybe i'm using the wrong term but wouldn't that be cause for the cabin to lose pressure?
Just my two cents.