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NOTE: This thread has been archived, as it contains obsolete information. AA now requires ( including c/y 2014) flyers fly four segments per calendar year on AA or US or their codeshares to earn or retain AAdvantage status. The active thread is: Four (4) Minimum number of AA or US segments to earn / keep status enforced 2014
American Airlines now (c/y 2014) is finally enforcing the previously stated but unenforced rule that AAdvantage members must fly a minimum of four (paid) AA (includes US now) operated (including those marketed by other carriers) or marketed (including those operated by other carriers) segments during the calendar year to earn status benefits. As bhomburg shared and Djokison reports, May 2013 account summaries included the following:
2014 Elite-Status Qualification Requirements
Others have recently reported status not posting when members have earned the required miles or points but have not flown AA or US marketed flights; AA CSRs are telling them status is not reflected because of the absence of AA / US segments. (Award segments will not qualify, from what we know.)
bhomburg and flatlander both have had verified with AA CSRs one must fly four AA (and/or US) marketed segments to qualify for AAdvantage status this year. Codeshare flights (AA flight number, operated by another carrier) count as AA segments:
American Airlines now (c/y 2014) is finally enforcing the previously stated but unenforced rule that AAdvantage members must fly a minimum of four (paid) AA (includes US now) operated (including those marketed by other carriers) or marketed (including those operated by other carriers) segments during the calendar year to earn status benefits. As bhomburg shared and Djokison reports, May 2013 account summaries included the following:
2014 Elite-Status Qualification Requirements
Others have recently reported status not posting when members have earned the required miles or points but have not flown AA or US marketed flights; AA CSRs are telling them status is not reflected because of the absence of AA / US segments. (Award segments will not qualify, from what we know.)
*Must fly at least four segments on American or US Airways during the qualifying year to receive elite status.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/eliteStatus/main.jsp.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/eliteStatus/main.jsp.
Note: Members must fly at least four segments on American Airlines, American Eagle, the American Connection carrier, US Airways, US Airways Express or US Airways Shuttle to qualify for Executive Platinum, Platinum or Gold status within the qualifying year. Qualifying miles do not include class-of-service bonus miles, other participant miles or any other AAdvantage bonus mileage. Miles purchased through buyAAmiles and giftAAmiles do not qualify for elite status.
"American Airlines marketed codeshare flights would count towards the four segments on American Airlines, American Eagle, the American Connection carrier, US Airways, US Airways Express or US Airways Shuttle required to qualify for Executive Platinum, Platinum or Gold status within the qualifying year".
OBSOLETE / ARCHIVE: Questions about the '4 AA segments' needed to earn status
Mar 10, 2007, 9:24 am
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OBSOLETE / ARCHIVE: Questions about the '4 AA segments' needed to earn status
1. I cannot find any reference to this in the T&C's on aa.com. Can I assume it no longer exists? If so, very good.
2. If I can't make that assumption, does anyone have any recent experience on whether AA enforce it. Historically I am aware they have not, but perhaps the change to challenges might represent a slight tightening of other status related rules in Advantage?
The reason I ask is that an unexpected spurt of travel should get me to the brink of EXP, after missing out last year. However the spurt period will only have 3 AA flights. I'd like to start planning now how to fit a fourth in, if needed.
Thanks!
2. If I can't make that assumption, does anyone have any recent experience on whether AA enforce it. Historically I am aware they have not, but perhaps the change to challenges might represent a slight tightening of other status related rules in Advantage?
The reason I ask is that an unexpected spurt of travel should get me to the brink of EXP, after missing out last year. However the spurt period will only have 3 AA flights. I'd like to start planning now how to fit a fourth in, if needed.
Thanks!
Mar 10, 2007, 9:37 am
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Member must fly at least four segments on American Airlines, American Eagle or AmericanConnection to qualify for AAdvantage Executive Platinum, AAdvantage Platinum or AAdvantage Gold status within the qualifying year. Qualifying miles do not include class-of-service bonus miles, other participant miles or any other AAdvantage bonus mileage. Miles purchased through buyAAmiles and giftAAmiles do not qualify for elite status.
Mar 10, 2007, 9:56 am
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It's not enforced.
Mar 10, 2007, 8:53 pm
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Mar 11, 2007, 3:33 am
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Should have tried harder. Thanks for the link.I think I'll take the risk as fitting another segment in to the current trip will be tough. I'd rather not do a LHR-JFK turnaround if it isn't needed.
Mar 11, 2007, 7:19 am
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Completely not enforced. I am EXP with one AA flight ever credited.
Mar 11, 2007, 11:31 am
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I have a colleage who is a 7MM...and he has not flown AA 3 or 4 years running. US based and EXP qualifying all with CX flights. Do you really think that AA cares for those 4 segments ? I sure think not.
Mar 11, 2007, 2:03 pm
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Mar 11, 2007, 2:24 pm
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1. I cannot find any reference to this in the T&C's on aa.com. Can I assume it no longer exists? If so, very good.
2. If I can't make that assumption, does anyone have any recent experience on whether AA enforce it. Historically I am aware they have not, but perhaps the change to challenges might represent a slight tightening of other status related rules in Advantage?
The reason I ask is that an unexpected spurt of travel should get me to the brink of EXP, after missing out last year. However the spurt period will only have 3 AA flights. I'd like to start planning now how to fit a fourth in, if needed.
2. If I can't make that assumption, does anyone have any recent experience on whether AA enforce it. Historically I am aware they have not, but perhaps the change to challenges might represent a slight tightening of other status related rules in Advantage?
The reason I ask is that an unexpected spurt of travel should get me to the brink of EXP, after missing out last year. However the spurt period will only have 3 AA flights. I'd like to start planning now how to fit a fourth in, if needed.
This change is in the spirt of "you want AA status? Fly AA a bit" (as opposed to a completely irrelevant-to-this-issue change, for example.)
If-- in the very unlikely event that AA has made some sort of change of this type-- enforcing something that's been conspicuously in place for years-- the "some people on the internet told me to ignore the posted T&C's" defense might be a tough sell.
Programs can and do change all the time-- and in this case it wouldn't even be a change to the program, just enforcement of an extremely reasonable rule you already knew existed.
You're talking about 1 extra AA segment that you'd have to take.
Mar 11, 2007, 2:32 pm
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You yourself point out that AA-- just this year-- instituted a major change for the rules on Challenges, making them AA code only. (this after asking if the very language being discussed was no longer on AA.com.)
This change is in the spirt of "you want AA status? Fly AA a bit" (as opposed to a completely irrelevant-to-this-issue change, for example.)
If-- in the very unlikely event that AA has made some sort of change of this type-- enforcing something that's been conspicuously in place for years-- the "some people on the internet told me to ignore the posted T&C's" defense might be a tough sell.
Programs can and do change all the time-- and in this case it wouldn't even be a change to the program, just enforcement of an extremely reasonable rule you already knew existed.
You're talking about 1 extra AA segment that you'd have to take.
This change is in the spirt of "you want AA status? Fly AA a bit" (as opposed to a completely irrelevant-to-this-issue change, for example.)
If-- in the very unlikely event that AA has made some sort of change of this type-- enforcing something that's been conspicuously in place for years-- the "some people on the internet told me to ignore the posted T&C's" defense might be a tough sell.
Programs can and do change all the time-- and in this case it wouldn't even be a change to the program, just enforcement of an extremely reasonable rule you already knew existed.
You're talking about 1 extra AA segment that you'd have to take.
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Mar 11, 2007, 2:37 pm
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You yourself point out that AA-- just this year-- instituted a major change for the rules on Challenges, making them AA code only. (this after asking if the very language being discussed was no longer on AA.com.)
This change is in the spirt of "you want AA status? Fly AA a bit" (as opposed to a completely irrelevant-to-this-issue change, for example.)
If-- in the very unlikely event that AA has made some sort of change of this type-- enforcing something that's been conspicuously in place for years-- the "some people on the internet told me to ignore the posted T&C's" defense might be a tough sell.
Programs can and do change all the time-- and in this case it wouldn't even be a change to the program, just enforcement of an extremely reasonable rule you already knew existed.
You're talking about 1 extra AA segment that you'd have to take.
This change is in the spirt of "you want AA status? Fly AA a bit" (as opposed to a completely irrelevant-to-this-issue change, for example.)
If-- in the very unlikely event that AA has made some sort of change of this type-- enforcing something that's been conspicuously in place for years-- the "some people on the internet told me to ignore the posted T&C's" defense might be a tough sell.
Programs can and do change all the time-- and in this case it wouldn't even be a change to the program, just enforcement of an extremely reasonable rule you already knew existed.
You're talking about 1 extra AA segment that you'd have to take.
I guess there is a seperate debate as to whether I should get AA status largely through not flying them. But I don't have my flame proof suit handy for that.
Mar 11, 2007, 2:49 pm
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As a final thought, -if- such a change had been made for 2007/8 (and I'm certainly not saying it has)-- how do you suppose anyone here would even know about it? Some semi-connected, super-helpful, factual and to-the-point member w/ a proven track-record of accuracy posting the info here? You're livin' in the past, man.
However, yes, you can still look to the forum for positive indications of what used to be (the past can always be predicted with 100% accuracy), or the publicly-accessible present.
Mar 11, 2007, 2:57 pm
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As a final thought, -if- such a change had been made for 2007/8 (and I'm certainly not saying it has)-- how do you suppose anyone here would even know about it? Some semi-connected, super-helpful, factual and to-the-point member w/ a proven track-record of accuracy posting the info here? You're livin' in the past, man. .
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