List of Shoe Carnival Airports and those who do it right
Dec 27, 2004, 12:29 pm
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List of Shoe Carnival Airports and those who do it right
Ok, I was thinking that we should have a list of airports that enforce shoe carnival and those that actually use some semblance of intelligence in enforcing the shoe rule. Based on the number of threads and day to day changing of rules, i thought it might be helpful to have a somewhat up to date list of airports, and maybe even checkpoints at airports, that are either FT friendly or unfriendly.
I will try to keep it up to date as possible.
To start (based on my experiences with my Ecco soft soled shoes)
SHOE FRIENDLY
ATL
AUS
BUF
DTW -- Lower Level NW terminal
JFK -- UA
LAS
LAX
LGA -- NW/DL
LHR/LGW
MCO
MEM
MKE
MSN
MSP
OAK -- UA/non-WN
ONT
ORD -- UA/AA
ORF
PIT
RDU
RIC
RNO
SAN
SGF
SJC
SLC
SNA
STL
TUL
SHOE CARNIVAL
ANC
BWI
CLE
CLT
DCA
DEN
DFW
DTW -- Upper level NW terminal/Customs Exit
EWR
EYW
FLL --
GEG
GRR
HNL
HOU
IAD
IAH
IND
KOA
LEX
LGA -- UA
MDW
MSY
MYR
ONT
PDX
PHX
PIE
RAP
RDU
SDF
SEA
SFO
SMF
DEPENDS
BOI
BOS
EUG
MCI
MHT
OGG
TPA
NON US AIRPORTS WITH SHOE CARNIVAL
CDG
ICN
FRA
MUC
edited through post #55-- BOS & MHT move to the depends column
I will try to keep it up to date as possible.
To start (based on my experiences with my Ecco soft soled shoes)
SHOE FRIENDLY
ATL
AUS
BUF
DTW -- Lower Level NW terminal
JFK -- UA
LAS
LAX
LGA -- NW/DL
LHR/LGW
MCO
MEM
MKE
MSN
MSP
OAK -- UA/non-WN
ONT
ORD -- UA/AA
ORF
PIT
RDU
RIC
RNO
SAN
SGF
SJC
SLC
SNA
STL
TUL
SHOE CARNIVAL
ANC
BWI
CLE
CLT
DCA
DEN
DFW
DTW -- Upper level NW terminal/Customs Exit
EWR
EYW
FLL --
GEG
GRR
HNL
HOU
IAD
IAH
IND
KOA
LEX
LGA -- UA
MDW
MSY
MYR
ONT
PDX
PHX
PIE
RAP
RDU
SDF
SEA
SFO
SMF
DEPENDS
BOI
BOS
EUG
MCI
MHT
OGG
TPA
NON US AIRPORTS WITH SHOE CARNIVAL
CDG
ICN
FRA
MUC
edited through post #55-- BOS & MHT move to the depends column
Last edited by MSY-MSP; Jan 6, 2005 at 11:52 am
Dec 27, 2004, 12:44 pm
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Never a problem: LAS (I know, what a surprise)
Now a big problem: MSY (Started recently)
Also not a problem: ORD (AA gates)
Becoming a problem: LGA (UA gates)
Huge problem with MEAN people: DCA (UA gates)
Now a big problem: MSY (Started recently)
Also not a problem: ORD (AA gates)
Becoming a problem: LGA (UA gates)
Huge problem with MEAN people: DCA (UA gates)
Dec 27, 2004, 12:49 pm
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Shoe Friendly - Depends
12/20
LGA
NW/DL terminal
TSA announced "Please remove and place in tray all boots, hard soled shoes, and non tennis shoes. You do not need to remove Tennis Shoes."
I did not remove my Easy Street walking shoes w/rubber soles & leather uppers - not really a tennis shoe, but all went okay - no hassle with TSA.
...........
Add MEM to shoe carnival.... 12/17 - all shoes off - NW
12/20
LGA
NW/DL terminal
TSA announced "Please remove and place in tray all boots, hard soled shoes, and non tennis shoes. You do not need to remove Tennis Shoes."
I did not remove my Easy Street walking shoes w/rubber soles & leather uppers - not really a tennis shoe, but all went okay - no hassle with TSA.
...........
Add MEM to shoe carnival.... 12/17 - all shoes off - NW
Last edited by jg2411; Dec 27, 2004 at 3:40 pm
Dec 27, 2004, 12:52 pm
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i'll offer my 2 "sense...
SFO (ua domestic)-beyond carnival-3 ring circus
"recommended removal" equates to that if you don't......
JFK-(ua)-never a problem
OAK-(ua/non southwest)-never a problem
LAS-no problems
RNO-no problems
SFO (ua domestic)-beyond carnival-3 ring circus
"recommended removal" equates to that if you don't......JFK-(ua)-never a problem
OAK-(ua/non southwest)-never a problem
LAS-no problems
RNO-no problems
Dec 27, 2004, 12:53 pm
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Problem:
SDF
DFW
FRA (!) [Imbeciles]
CDG (!!) [merde]
DEN
HNL
CLT
SEA
No problem:
ORD
LAX
RDU
PIT
LHR
LGW
JFK
ATL
Inconsistent:
MCI
SDF
DFW
FRA (!) [Imbeciles]
CDG (!!) [merde]
DEN
HNL
CLT
SEA
No problem:
ORD
LAX
RDU
PIT
LHR
LGW
JFK
ATL
Inconsistent:
MCI
Dec 27, 2004, 1:03 pm
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Term C at EWR --remove everything including flip flops
Dec 27, 2004, 2:22 pm
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I usually wear my Nike running shoes when traveling. In seldom cases, my Doc Martens.
I'm kinda surpirsed about the European airports. I have never had issues with CDG, having flown out of there at least six times since the US Shoe Carnival started. In fact, my Doc Martens went through just fine there last month (and LIS, same Docs). Nobody else was stopped to remove shoes at CDG or LIS. Same thing with AMS, FRA and LHR.
MUC is the only airport I have had to remove my shoes (and the attitude of the profiler...didn't like the autographs I had in the back of my passport, told him to talk to my Government). That was in 2003.
After clearing Customs, MSP was shoe-friendly last month.
IAD used to be shoe-friendly, but they make everyone remove them after clearing Customs as well.
DEN and SEA are the worst (on another SEA note, I went through there yesterday, discovered the WTMD I usually go through is not as sensitive, my belt works just fine now).
EUG is inconsistent. About every other trip has me removing them.
ONT and SMF are in carnival mode too.
JFK (UA) has been shoe-firendly for awhile.
Canadian: YYZ, YHZ and YOW are shoe-friendly. Though YYZ has the boarding pass fetish.
I'm kinda surpirsed about the European airports. I have never had issues with CDG, having flown out of there at least six times since the US Shoe Carnival started. In fact, my Doc Martens went through just fine there last month (and LIS, same Docs). Nobody else was stopped to remove shoes at CDG or LIS. Same thing with AMS, FRA and LHR.
MUC is the only airport I have had to remove my shoes (and the attitude of the profiler...didn't like the autographs I had in the back of my passport, told him to talk to my Government). That was in 2003.
After clearing Customs, MSP was shoe-friendly last month.
IAD used to be shoe-friendly, but they make everyone remove them after clearing Customs as well.
DEN and SEA are the worst (on another SEA note, I went through there yesterday, discovered the WTMD I usually go through is not as sensitive, my belt works just fine now).
EUG is inconsistent. About every other trip has me removing them.
ONT and SMF are in carnival mode too.
JFK (UA) has been shoe-firendly for awhile.
Canadian: YYZ, YHZ and YOW are shoe-friendly. Though YYZ has the boarding pass fetish.
Dec 27, 2004, 2:51 pm
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All shoes off at EWR AA and CO.
Dec 27, 2004, 3:03 pm
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Should Dulles Be Reconsidered?
I usually use DCA but I've gone through screening at IAD twice in the last month, and neither time have I been urged to remove my Sperry Topsiders, nor have I been sent to secondary screening after wearing them through the metal detector. Has the shoe carnival moved on?
Last edited by greggwiggins; Dec 27, 2004 at 3:04 pm Reason: correcting a typo
Dec 27, 2004, 3:24 pm
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Add Manchester, NH to the "no problem" list (they actually have foot metal detectors that you can run your shoes over before approaching the contract security goon to show your ID and BP). ^
Key West, FL is definately a "problem"/shoe carnival airport. When I last flew out of there in early December, the "gatekeeper" at the WTMD really got bent out of shape when I reminded him of what the SOP does and does not require.
Key West, FL is definately a "problem"/shoe carnival airport. When I last flew out of there in early December, the "gatekeeper" at the WTMD really got bent out of shape when I reminded him of what the SOP does and does not require.
Dec 27, 2004, 4:51 pm
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No problem: SNA
Depends: DFW (only once have I had a problem there)
Depends: DFW (only once have I had a problem there)
Dec 27, 2004, 6:09 pm
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Shoe Carnival: FLL - concourse E (US Airways), DCA (US Airways), SEA(!!), DEN
non Shoe Carnival: YYZ, BUF, YVR, LAX, MCO, JFK
non Shoe Carnival: YYZ, BUF, YVR, LAX, MCO, JFK
Dec 27, 2004, 6:39 pm
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I don't really track whose a problem, but I do know:
SNA - No problem, ever.
CLE - Problem everytime I go
RAP - Only been there once, and a family of 4 (us) all got to take our shoes off.
SNA - No problem, ever.
CLE - Problem everytime I go
RAP - Only been there once, and a family of 4 (us) all got to take our shoes off.
Dec 27, 2004, 7:17 pm
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My two favorite airports (SEA and EWR) are major shoe carnivals, as has been noted above. I've even tried other concourse entrances, now that SEA is all hooked together behind security, and they ALL have shoe fetishes. 
When are we ever going to get intelligent, effective security? I might almost grumble less about the shoe fetishes if it was the only dumb policy, but... ARGH.
When are we ever going to get intelligent, effective security? I might almost grumble less about the shoe fetishes if it was the only dumb policy, but... ARGH.
Dec 27, 2004, 7:59 pm
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I think the shoe carnival at EWR depends on the terminal. One of the screeners at the Terminal A United gates last week actually made a point of telling passengers that removal of shoes is not required. Can't speak for Terminal C though.
BWI, DCA, PHX, CLT, and SFO are all shoe carnival in my experience. IAD is mixed---usually okay but a few screeners still enjoy the power trip of "suggesting" (forcing) everyone to remove their shoes.
LAX (T1, T4, T6, and T7) and JFK (T8 and T9) don't even bother suggesting shoe removal and don't seem to care about sole thickness at all; I've worn my running shoes with soles greater than one inch through the WTMD at all of the above LAX terminals since October and was not sent to secondary. Not TSA SOP, but the way things should be done: no metal, no beep, no harassment. ^
BWI, DCA, PHX, CLT, and SFO are all shoe carnival in my experience. IAD is mixed---usually okay but a few screeners still enjoy the power trip of "suggesting" (forcing) everyone to remove their shoes.
LAX (T1, T4, T6, and T7) and JFK (T8 and T9) don't even bother suggesting shoe removal and don't seem to care about sole thickness at all; I've worn my running shoes with soles greater than one inch through the WTMD at all of the above LAX terminals since October and was not sent to secondary. Not TSA SOP, but the way things should be done: no metal, no beep, no harassment. ^
