PHL-SFO to get A332 October 2017
May 29, 2017, 10:21 am
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Makes sense as October is when the TA flights start to reduce in frequency. With spare widebody aircraft, routes like PHL-SFO make more sense than PHL-MCO and PHL-BOS.
I wonder if we'll see these on PHL-LAX as well.
I wonder if we'll see these on PHL-LAX as well.
May 29, 2017, 10:33 am
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May 29, 2017, 11:05 am
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What? VX is planning to start their SFO-PHX service again???!! That flight was my favorite entrance to the NE as as a lot of my business was in South Jersey and the Greater PHL region anyway... Never did like the flights in the NYC airports... Well, EWR started to grow on me with the VX service...
Would be tough choice to make for me... But I did AA a try for sure...
Would be tough choice to make for me... But I did AA a try for sure...
May 29, 2017, 12:02 pm
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This always happens come autumn, since the TATL low season kicks in and A330s become available (as noted above). I've been on A330s between PHL/MCO, PHL/CLT, and PHL/SJU in the fall.
The service from SFO is a new twist; I hope they start running them to other destinations on Pacific Time from PHL when the aircraft become available off-season.
The service from SFO is a new twist; I hope they start running them to other destinations on Pacific Time from PHL when the aircraft become available off-season.
May 29, 2017, 12:10 pm
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SFO-PHL commands some of the highest fares and loads based on my past trips, especially compared with fares on SFO-JKF route. It only makes sense for them to add capacity, and provide flat beds across the Atlantic routes. I would be picking this route to go to MAD for my fall trip now, instead of dealing with LHR insanity.
May 29, 2017, 12:32 pm
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Great to hear. Typically the 330s and 767s would hit the Caribbean in the fall and winter, with regular turns to STT, SXM, CUN, SJU, and PUJ from both PHL and CLT, with some cities (like SJU) seeing as many as 3 widebodies per day, with lots of 752s thrown in the mix, as well. With the mass retirement of the LAA 763s in Q3 and Q4, I'm not sure what the combined widebody fleet slack looks like in the off season this year, but transcon routes seem like a great use of these birds and their premium seating configs.
LUS used to regularly run the 762s from PHL, CLT, and even PIT mainly to LAX, but at times to SFO as well until around 2003. Post HP merger, PHL-PHX used to see 332/333 turns, with a 762 also used on CLT-PHX.
LUS used to regularly run the 762s from PHL, CLT, and even PIT mainly to LAX, but at times to SFO as well until around 2003. Post HP merger, PHL-PHX used to see 332/333 turns, with a 762 also used on CLT-PHX.
May 29, 2017, 3:29 pm
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What? VX is planning to start their SFO-PHX service again???!! That flight was my favorite entrance to the NE as as a lot of my business was in South Jersey and the Greater PHL region anyway... Never did like the flights in the NYC airports... Well, EWR started to grow on me with the VX service...
Would be tough choice to make for me... But I did AA a try for sure...
Would be tough choice to make for me... But I did AA a try for sure...
UA goes 3x daily on SFO-PHL August 15 (http://newsroom.united.com/2017-05-0...8-Destinations)
May 30, 2017, 6:39 am
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This past early spring, the 330 only lasted on PHL-BOS for a few weeks. There were 2 roundtrips with one 330 RON in BOS, which probably wasn't the best utilization.
It does not look like this utilization is great either. Arriving in SFO 6:45pm and not departing until ~8am the next day. Unless I'm missing another 330 into SFO.
It does not look like this utilization is great either. Arriving in SFO 6:45pm and not departing until ~8am the next day. Unless I'm missing another 330 into SFO.
May 31, 2017, 5:01 pm
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Now there's a plane on which I would consider paying for F (or whatever we're calling domestic first class these days).
It just occurred to me today, though, that it doesn't have WiFi; I have definitely become accustomed to being able to work from the plane.
I wonder, though -- would the upgrade chances be better or worse than on the A321 on that route?
On one hand, there are more seats -- 20 vs. 16.
On the other hand, the premium cabin represents a lower percentage of the total seats -- 20/258 = ~7.8% vs. 16/187 = ~8.7%.
Thoughts?
- OM
It just occurred to me today, though, that it doesn't have WiFi; I have definitely become accustomed to being able to work from the plane.
I wonder, though -- would the upgrade chances be better or worse than on the A321 on that route?
On one hand, there are more seats -- 20 vs. 16.
On the other hand, the premium cabin represents a lower percentage of the total seats -- 20/258 = ~7.8% vs. 16/187 = ~8.7%.
Thoughts?
- OM
May 31, 2017, 5:11 pm
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Yeah, it makes more sense than PHL-BOS. I had the pleasure to take that trip on the 332 with comp upgrade, but it sure seemed silly. Given that they have the slack in the widebody fleet, they should be using them on longer flights where it will be noticed.
May 31, 2017, 5:16 pm
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Now there's a plane on which I would consider paying for F (or whatever we're calling domestic first class these days).
It just occurred to me today, though, that it doesn't have WiFi; I have definitely become accustomed to being able to work from the plane.
I wonder, though -- would the upgrade chances be better or worse than on the A321 on that route?
On one hand, there are more seats -- 20 vs. 16.
On the other hand, the premium cabin represents a lower percentage of the total seats -- 20/258 = ~7.8% vs. 16/187 = ~8.7%.
Thoughts?
- OM
It just occurred to me today, though, that it doesn't have WiFi; I have definitely become accustomed to being able to work from the plane.
I wonder, though -- would the upgrade chances be better or worse than on the A321 on that route?
On one hand, there are more seats -- 20 vs. 16.
On the other hand, the premium cabin represents a lower percentage of the total seats -- 20/258 = ~7.8% vs. 16/187 = ~8.7%.
Thoughts?
- OM
As to upgrade chances, I'd say they are slimmer on the A332- the extra 4 seats in J do not make up for the extra Y seating in back. I would imagine odds would be even worse on such a long flight like that, as more people would intentionally be booking that aircraft- both upfront by paying for it, and in the back in hopes of scoring on upgrade.
Jun 7, 2017, 11:02 pm
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Is this a misfile or for real?
PHL-SFO #625 appears to get an A332 as of Thursday Oct 5th? Competition with VX?
PHL-SFO #625 appears to get an A332 as of Thursday Oct 5th? Competition with VX?