Gate agent split my wife and infant off my PNR without consent
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2012
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 40
Gate agent split my wife and infant off my PNR without consent
Short version
I'm an EP traveling to Orlando for some vaca with my and infant son. Booked coach fares, upgraded on first leg. 2nd leg from CLT to MCO looked like no chance of upgrade on A321. We are in lounge, agent said 1 pax was delayed coming in so as #1 on standby upgrade I may get it. I said no thank you my wife and I need to sit together to handle our infant son. I don't think anything more about it
Go to gate towards end of boarding process. We have 1 small carry on each so no worry about overhead bin space etc. I give my boarding pass and it errors as wrong seat. The Gaye agent says oh great news you've been upgraded. I said no I don't want the upgrade want to stay next to my wife. He said well I can't give you your seat back and there aren't 2 seats together. This is going to turn into a huge game of musical chairs to get us together. Agent is really ticked off. I said I asked the lounge agent to keep us together. I had no idea the PNR could be split at this point
So I say whatever, we'll get on and I give my wife the 1st seat. We decide if the kid is really being rough, we'll send the person next to me up to the 1st seat that my wife is in and she'll come back by me with the kid
So now I get upgraded on both legs of the return but not her. A call to EP desk reveals when the gate agent processed the upgrade for me, our reservation was split. No going back, no fixing it. So now there's an issue that they cannot fix. I've been upgraded and there's no way for her. I've been told NO multiple times. We intentionally booked travel so as to sit together. Additionally, I worked hard for EP status last year and feel like I am losing a huge benefit of having my travel companion share my EP upgrade benefits.
In this situation, it isn't the end of the world. We'll just split up and 1 person handles the kid. If he has a rough time I'll send the person next to me up to first and bring my wife back (again I'll let my wife have my upgraded seat). However there is a huge principle issue. Imagine if this wasn't a basic itinerary but some complex international trip that got messed up. The EP desk has not been very helpful and basically told me it's my fault the reservation was split
What do I do? Contacted customer care through twitter directly and they told me to call the EP desk. EP desk said they can't do anything, and I need to contact customer care
I'm an EP traveling to Orlando for some vaca with my and infant son. Booked coach fares, upgraded on first leg. 2nd leg from CLT to MCO looked like no chance of upgrade on A321. We are in lounge, agent said 1 pax was delayed coming in so as #1 on standby upgrade I may get it. I said no thank you my wife and I need to sit together to handle our infant son. I don't think anything more about it
Go to gate towards end of boarding process. We have 1 small carry on each so no worry about overhead bin space etc. I give my boarding pass and it errors as wrong seat. The Gaye agent says oh great news you've been upgraded. I said no I don't want the upgrade want to stay next to my wife. He said well I can't give you your seat back and there aren't 2 seats together. This is going to turn into a huge game of musical chairs to get us together. Agent is really ticked off. I said I asked the lounge agent to keep us together. I had no idea the PNR could be split at this point
So I say whatever, we'll get on and I give my wife the 1st seat. We decide if the kid is really being rough, we'll send the person next to me up to the 1st seat that my wife is in and she'll come back by me with the kid
So now I get upgraded on both legs of the return but not her. A call to EP desk reveals when the gate agent processed the upgrade for me, our reservation was split. No going back, no fixing it. So now there's an issue that they cannot fix. I've been upgraded and there's no way for her. I've been told NO multiple times. We intentionally booked travel so as to sit together. Additionally, I worked hard for EP status last year and feel like I am losing a huge benefit of having my travel companion share my EP upgrade benefits.
In this situation, it isn't the end of the world. We'll just split up and 1 person handles the kid. If he has a rough time I'll send the person next to me up to first and bring my wife back (again I'll let my wife have my upgraded seat). However there is a huge principle issue. Imagine if this wasn't a basic itinerary but some complex international trip that got messed up. The EP desk has not been very helpful and basically told me it's my fault the reservation was split
What do I do? Contacted customer care through twitter directly and they told me to call the EP desk. EP desk said they can't do anything, and I need to contact customer care
#2
Join Date: Apr 2011
Programs: Bonvoy Amb LTT, HHonors Diamond, AA ExPlat, United Silver
Posts: 641
similar situation
Has happened to me. Went through every possible avenue to try to rectify, but no success. Once they split the record there seems to be no recourse. You would think they would not be able to split without your permission, but not the case.
Short version
I'm an EP traveling to Orlando for some vaca with my and infant son. Booked coach fares, upgraded on first leg. 2nd leg from CLT to MCO looked like no chance of upgrade on A321. We are in lounge, agent said 1 pax was delayed coming in so as #1 on standby upgrade I may get it. I said no thank you my wife and I need to sit together to handle our infant son. I don't think anything more about it
Go to gate towards end of boarding process. We have 1 small carry on each so no worry about overhead bin space etc. I give my boarding pass and it errors as wrong seat. The Gaye agent says oh great news you've been upgraded. I said no I don't want the upgrade want to stay next to my wife. He said well I can't give you your seat back and there aren't 2 seats together. This is going to turn into a huge game of musical chairs to get us together. Agent is really ticked off. I said I asked the lounge agent to keep us together. I had no idea the PNR could be split at this point
So I say whatever, we'll get on and I give my wife the 1st seat. We decide if the kid is really being rough, we'll send the person next to me up to the 1st seat that my wife is in and she'll come back by me with the kid
So now I get upgraded on both legs of the return but not her. A call to EP desk reveals when the gate agent processed the upgrade for me, our reservation was split. No going back, no fixing it. So now there's an issue that they cannot fix. I've been upgraded and there's no way for her. I've been told NO multiple times. We intentionally booked travel so as to sit together. Additionally, I worked hard for EP status last year and feel like I am losing a huge benefit of having my travel companion share my EP upgrade benefits.
In this situation, it isn't the end of the world. We'll just split up and 1 person handles the kid. If he has a rough time I'll send the person next to me up to first and bring my wife back (again I'll let my wife have my upgraded seat). However there is a huge principle issue. Imagine if this wasn't a basic itinerary but some complex international trip that got messed up. The EP desk has not been very helpful and basically told me it's my fault the reservation was split
What do I do? Contacted customer care through twitter directly and they told me to call the EP desk. EP desk said they can't do anything, and I need to contact customer care
I'm an EP traveling to Orlando for some vaca with my and infant son. Booked coach fares, upgraded on first leg. 2nd leg from CLT to MCO looked like no chance of upgrade on A321. We are in lounge, agent said 1 pax was delayed coming in so as #1 on standby upgrade I may get it. I said no thank you my wife and I need to sit together to handle our infant son. I don't think anything more about it
Go to gate towards end of boarding process. We have 1 small carry on each so no worry about overhead bin space etc. I give my boarding pass and it errors as wrong seat. The Gaye agent says oh great news you've been upgraded. I said no I don't want the upgrade want to stay next to my wife. He said well I can't give you your seat back and there aren't 2 seats together. This is going to turn into a huge game of musical chairs to get us together. Agent is really ticked off. I said I asked the lounge agent to keep us together. I had no idea the PNR could be split at this point
So I say whatever, we'll get on and I give my wife the 1st seat. We decide if the kid is really being rough, we'll send the person next to me up to the 1st seat that my wife is in and she'll come back by me with the kid
So now I get upgraded on both legs of the return but not her. A call to EP desk reveals when the gate agent processed the upgrade for me, our reservation was split. No going back, no fixing it. So now there's an issue that they cannot fix. I've been upgraded and there's no way for her. I've been told NO multiple times. We intentionally booked travel so as to sit together. Additionally, I worked hard for EP status last year and feel like I am losing a huge benefit of having my travel companion share my EP upgrade benefits.
In this situation, it isn't the end of the world. We'll just split up and 1 person handles the kid. If he has a rough time I'll send the person next to me up to first and bring my wife back (again I'll let my wife have my upgraded seat). However there is a huge principle issue. Imagine if this wasn't a basic itinerary but some complex international trip that got messed up. The EP desk has not been very helpful and basically told me it's my fault the reservation was split
What do I do? Contacted customer care through twitter directly and they told me to call the EP desk. EP desk said they can't do anything, and I need to contact customer care
#4
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New York, NY
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Posts: 6,776
This. It's simple and almost always going to get a Yes response. Don't make a mountain out of a mole hill.
They shouldn't have split your PNR but it happened as most EXP would complain that they didn't get an upgrade when there was 1 seat available.
They shouldn't have split your PNR but it happened as most EXP would complain that they didn't get an upgrade when there was 1 seat available.
#5
Join Date: Jul 2001
Programs: AA EP
Posts: 2,203
They can't put u back on one PNR.
Short version
I'm an EP traveling to Orlando for some vaca with my and infant son. Booked coach fares, upgraded on first leg. 2nd leg from CLT to MCO looked like no chance of upgrade on A321. We are in lounge, agent said 1 pax was delayed coming in so as #1 on standby upgrade I may get it. I said no thank you my wife and I need to sit together to handle our infant son. I don't think anything more about it
Go to gate towards end of boarding process. We have 1 small carry on each so no worry about overhead bin space etc. I give my boarding pass and it errors as wrong seat. The Gaye agent says oh great news you've been upgraded. I said no I don't want the upgrade want to stay next to my wife. He said well I can't give you your seat back and there aren't 2 seats together. This is going to turn into a huge game of musical chairs to get us together. Agent is really ticked off. I said I asked the lounge agent to keep us together. I had no idea the PNR could be split at this point
So I say whatever, we'll get on and I give my wife the 1st seat. We decide if the kid is really being rough, we'll send the person next to me up to the 1st seat that my wife is in and she'll come back by me with the kid
So now I get upgraded on both legs of the return but not her. A call to EP desk reveals when the gate agent processed the upgrade for me, our reservation was split. No going back, no fixing it. So now there's an issue that they cannot fix. I've been upgraded and there's no way for her. I've been told NO multiple times. We intentionally booked travel so as to sit together. Additionally, I worked hard for EP status last year and feel like I am losing a huge benefit of having my travel companion share my EP upgrade benefits.
In this situation, it isn't the end of the world. We'll just split up and 1 person handles the kid. If he has a rough time I'll send the person next to me up to first and bring my wife back (again I'll let my wife have my upgraded seat). However there is a huge principle issue. Imagine if this wasn't a basic itinerary but some complex international trip that got messed up. The EP desk has not been very helpful and basically told me it's my fault the reservation was split
What do I do? Contacted customer care through twitter directly and they told me to call the EP desk. EP desk said they can't do anything, and I need to contact customer care
I'm an EP traveling to Orlando for some vaca with my and infant son. Booked coach fares, upgraded on first leg. 2nd leg from CLT to MCO looked like no chance of upgrade on A321. We are in lounge, agent said 1 pax was delayed coming in so as #1 on standby upgrade I may get it. I said no thank you my wife and I need to sit together to handle our infant son. I don't think anything more about it
Go to gate towards end of boarding process. We have 1 small carry on each so no worry about overhead bin space etc. I give my boarding pass and it errors as wrong seat. The Gaye agent says oh great news you've been upgraded. I said no I don't want the upgrade want to stay next to my wife. He said well I can't give you your seat back and there aren't 2 seats together. This is going to turn into a huge game of musical chairs to get us together. Agent is really ticked off. I said I asked the lounge agent to keep us together. I had no idea the PNR could be split at this point
So I say whatever, we'll get on and I give my wife the 1st seat. We decide if the kid is really being rough, we'll send the person next to me up to the 1st seat that my wife is in and she'll come back by me with the kid
So now I get upgraded on both legs of the return but not her. A call to EP desk reveals when the gate agent processed the upgrade for me, our reservation was split. No going back, no fixing it. So now there's an issue that they cannot fix. I've been upgraded and there's no way for her. I've been told NO multiple times. We intentionally booked travel so as to sit together. Additionally, I worked hard for EP status last year and feel like I am losing a huge benefit of having my travel companion share my EP upgrade benefits.
In this situation, it isn't the end of the world. We'll just split up and 1 person handles the kid. If he has a rough time I'll send the person next to me up to first and bring my wife back (again I'll let my wife have my upgraded seat). However there is a huge principle issue. Imagine if this wasn't a basic itinerary but some complex international trip that got messed up. The EP desk has not been very helpful and basically told me it's my fault the reservation was split
What do I do? Contacted customer care through twitter directly and they told me to call the EP desk. EP desk said they can't do anything, and I need to contact customer care
#6
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: El Segundo, CA
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Posts: 108
Same thing happened to me about 6 months ago. Nothing that can really be done to prevent except specifically removing yourself from the upgrade list before the upgrades are applied. I wish there was a better solution, but there isnt.
#8
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 3,698
Having said that, I think it's theoretically possible to designate someone on a separate PNR as a companion for upgrade purposes, but it sounds like that didn't get set up properly when the agent split the PNR.
It's also the case that when GAs decide to ignore the preference of the person next in line for the upgrade not to split up their party, the net effect is that some random person who happened to get put in their seat gets upgraded to first instead of the next person on the upgrade list, so it's a particularly bad outcome for the elite who loses out on their upgrade priority.
#9
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sun Prairie, WI
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Posts: 1,786
It's funny because the person reluctantly switched seats. I don't think they lady traveled much and didn't realize she was getting a seat in First!
#10
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 3,698
This is good advice. If you really want to set together and avoid the split then request at booking to not be on the upgrade list. Last time I traveled with the family I was offered this. I didn't remove myself and was upgraded but the family wasn't. I simply asked the person next to my family to switch.
#11
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So now I get upgraded on both legs of the return but not her. A call to EP desk reveals when the gate agent processed the upgrade for me, our reservation was split. No going back, no fixing it. So now there's an issue that they cannot fix. I've been upgraded and there's no way for her. I've been told NO multiple times.
#12
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#13
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I've never had an issue getting friends on separate records (because I was already booked in first) added to the upgrade list, so I can't see why the OP getting his upgrade would prevent the other record from being added to the list.
#14
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sun Prairie, WI
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I don't think it's very good advice. Almost all the time I've been in these situations, the GAs have asked if we were willing to split or not. The handful of times when a GA has preemptively split us up, as everyone points out it's not hard to get the new seatmate in coach to split. So, all this advice gets you is the guarantee of sitting in coach instead of the possibility of both of you being upgraded.
Edit: I'll add that I think it is good advice telling the OP that you *can* request to not be on the upgrade list. Maybe it wasn't the best advice as far as options go...
Last edited by WiscAZ; Feb 27, 2017 at 3:09 pm
#15
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 3,698
Is this just for people who rely on status for other benefits for their companions on the same PNR?