U-Turn on seating policy!!
#136
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If nether of those conditions apply to your booking, then you can’t get a seat assigned until you either OLCI, or as I would suspect in the case of most holiday makers, present your self at the check-in desk.
The only caveat being if there’s baby in the group, then pre-assignment opens up to that group.
So the potential for chaos & ranting & raving at Check-in is huge. But with inflexibility of the policy, the ground staff can do nothing.
So imagine those passengers disquiet, when they learn because they have no status they’re going to be scattered around the cabin
The only caveat being if there’s baby in the group, then pre-assignment opens up to that group.
So the potential for chaos & ranting & raving at Check-in is huge. But with inflexibility of the policy, the ground staff can do nothing.
So imagine those passengers disquiet, when they learn because they have no status they’re going to be scattered around the cabin
I'm sure you're right about the majority of holiday makers not discovering this until the get to the airport, but equally I'm sure the vast majority of people wouldn't know whether their seat had been pre-assigned by a computer the day before, or by a check in agent while they're standing in front of a desk, and surely that's one way to take the sting out of most of this - get the computer to randomly assign seats throughout the cabin for groups of three or more in the same PNR immediately prior to the opening of OLCI. Surely that will take away a lot of the pain because the families will be together and the singles and couples can slotted in more easily?
#137
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That's human nature - bad news travels fast. What sells newspapers? Disaster!
I'm actually not really bothered where I sit, but that's possibly because I travel mostly on my own, I don't care a lot about the view out of the window because I've been there before, the meal choice isn't that big of a deal and I'm travelling in cabins where I'm never more than one seat from an aisle with adequae leg room throughout. For me therefore it works out fine. Plus I know that, based on status, I can probably find a way out of the middle seat in the last row of WT should I ever be so unfortunate.... I can only hope I haven't tempted the fates and offered too tempting a challenge to a BA lurker.....
#138
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I'm in agreement with those who say at the very least put couples and families on the same PNR in seats together. As I've said ad infinitum, my worst nightmare would be getting to T-24 and finding that my wife and I don't get to sit togther!
Traveling alone, I don't really give a s**t where I'm placed. After all, in CW there aren't too many seats that are just horrible.
Traveling alone, I don't really give a s**t where I'm placed. After all, in CW there aren't too many seats that are just horrible.
#139
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To what extent is this all related to the fact BA have an uncompetitive 8 across layout in club? (I accept the flat bed was market leading, but 8 across in J was a blast from the past). This move may have been designed to help BA maintain market share as people like CX roll out their new J products.
After all, many carriers don't allow you to preassign in Y and BA do allow you to assign in F regardless of status.
Just a thought...
After all, many carriers don't allow you to preassign in Y and BA do allow you to assign in F regardless of status.
Just a thought...
#140
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I'm in agreement with those who say at the very least put couples and families on the same PNR in seats together. As I've said ad infinitum, my worst nightmare would be getting to T-24 and finding that my wife and I don't get to sit togther!
Traveling alone, I don't really give a s**t where I'm placed. After all, in CW there aren't too many seats that are just horrible.
Traveling alone, I don't really give a s**t where I'm placed. After all, in CW there aren't too many seats that are just horrible.
#141
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From the day that it was booked (some 9 months ago) I was pre-assigned
3A, but Mrs Spitfire (Blue) was unallocated with the message to choose at OLCI. So what happens? I check in at T-25 and find that I'm supposedly in
3A whilst SWMBO has been allocated 1A . Luckly 1C was still available.
It remains to be seen what they've done on the return.
Furthermore, whilst I checked in at exactly T-25, we were still numbers 50 & 51 in the sequence? Can someone throw some light on that?
#142
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It appears to be worse than that; SWMBO & myself are off on a jolly, CE tomorrow.
From the day that it was booked (some 9 months ago) I was pre-assigned
3A, but Mrs Spitfire (Blue) was unallocated with the message to choose at OLCI. So what happens? I check in at T-25 and find that I'm supposedly in
3A whilst SWMBO has been allocated 1A . Luckly 1C was still available.
It remains to be seen what they've done on the return.
Furthermore, whilst I checked in at exactly T-25, we were still numbers 50 & 51 in the sequence? Can someone throw some light on that?
From the day that it was booked (some 9 months ago) I was pre-assigned
3A, but Mrs Spitfire (Blue) was unallocated with the message to choose at OLCI. So what happens? I check in at T-25 and find that I'm supposedly in
3A whilst SWMBO has been allocated 1A . Luckly 1C was still available.
It remains to be seen what they've done on the return.
Furthermore, whilst I checked in at exactly T-25, we were still numbers 50 & 51 in the sequence? Can someone throw some light on that?
#143
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It appears to be worse than that; SWMBO & myself are off on a jolly, CE tomorrow.
From the day that it was booked (some 9 months ago) I was pre-assigned
3A, but Mrs Spitfire (Blue) was unallocated with the message to choose at OLCI. So what happens? I check in at T-25 and find that I'm supposedly in
3A whilst SWMBO has been allocated 1A . Luckly 1C was still available.
It remains to be seen what they've done on the return.
Furthermore, whilst I checked in at exactly T-25, we were still numbers 50 & 51 in the sequence? Can someone throw some light on that?
From the day that it was booked (some 9 months ago) I was pre-assigned
3A, but Mrs Spitfire (Blue) was unallocated with the message to choose at OLCI. So what happens? I check in at T-25 and find that I'm supposedly in
3A whilst SWMBO has been allocated 1A . Luckly 1C was still available.
It remains to be seen what they've done on the return.
Furthermore, whilst I checked in at exactly T-25, we were still numbers 50 & 51 in the sequence? Can someone throw some light on that?
#144
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Possibly if you are ex-LON, those going (for example) ex-EDI MAN etc or ex-USA and connecting onto your flight have an earlier T-25, since they can check in for all flights from the time of their first flight? Not all people originate from London, despite what BA likes to think
However, I suppose it's understandable; the thought of 49 Sweaties, Mancs & Yanks is unthinkable.
#145
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So you could have a point there alright.
I’d have to agree to a certain extent with those who say travelling alone, they don’t mind too much where they sit, although I really do prefer a window seat. More importantly though, I’d hate to be in one of the Love Seats.
But it still bugs me senseless that while every other airline allows pre-assigning BA have taken that away. Especially when you take into account the sort of money you have to lash out for CW. So unless there’s a U-turn on this policy, as soon as I drop back to Blue from Silver & lose the facility to pre-assign, I’ll be spending my money elsewhere.
#146
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#147
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Why can't BA just make a simple modification to the policy that automatically allocates seats to bookings that have more than one passenger on it? I.e. if a booking is made in CW by anyone and it has two passengers, those passengers are allocated a pair of seats. This would retain the better options for elites, but recognise that, in the same way that families with young children should be able to sit together, so should 'couples'.
This thread started with the rumor of such a U-turn. Is there any news on this?
#148
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Well I got a survvey today (actually I asked the CSD who was handing them out).
My response? I loved the on-board service (5* today, though I am not 100% convinced about NNCW seat) but i HATE the seating policy and the baggage policy. Put it in the largest type I could find (to ensure the short sighted youknowwho's at Waterworld take note).
My response? I loved the on-board service (5* today, though I am not 100% convinced about NNCW seat) but i HATE the seating policy and the baggage policy. Put it in the largest type I could find (to ensure the short sighted youknowwho's at Waterworld take note).
#150
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Thanks as ever, Bukhara. Good news - a welcome modification I think for many here as they mix GUFs and 241s, etc. or book their OH separately when they're on a work trip ^
*Awaits barrage from moaning Silvers*
*Awaits barrage from moaning Silvers*