WSJ: LH To Launch A380 on FRA-JFK [merged first sheduled A380 destination thread]
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Day 1: FRA-JNB 22:35 - 10:00+1
Day 2: JNB-FRA 20:00 - 05:25+1
Day 3: FRA-JNB 22:35 - 10:00+1
Day 4: JNB-FRA 20:00 - 05:25+1
and so on...
The JNB route is terrible in terms of aircraft utilisation. At least during the long FRA layovers, you could theoretically send the aircraft on a quick TLV roundtrip (departing FRA 10:15, back in FRA 20:00, works in terms of time but the A380 may be too big for the route), but the time in JNB is definitely lost.
Even with a straight turnaround and a daylight flight one way, the JNB route is simply too long to do it in one 24-hour day. Therefore it cannot be operated with only one aircraft available.
I really don't see JNB happening until the A380 fleet gets a bit bigger, maybe once the fourth aircraft arrives or something.
In terms of marketing, I think it would be better if LH could reliably offer daily A380 service, for which New York is a good fit. It's similar to what SQ did with debuting the A380 on a daily SIN-SYD-SIN rotation (which is of a similar length as FRA-JFK-FRA) rather than three weekly to LHR or something.
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Exactly. The aircraft would be sitting idle for most of the time which is not great for such an expensive plane. QF has a similar problem with flights to LAX where the planes sit there for most of the day and they were never able to come up with a good solution for this.
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Hmmm I will be flying out of NRT on F award at the very end of August. My original plan was NRT-ICN-HKG(OZ F) stopover then fly LX F to FRA via ZRH. Now I am wondering if it is worth skipping a taste of OZ F, stopover in HKG and The Wing for a chance at getting the A380 and new F to FRA
I could go via PVG or just direct from NRT. I really would not like to swap my planned itinerary for LH's current F seat but I wonder what the chance is of me picking either PVG or NRT and getting it?
Do you reckon LH will make any announcements in the next few months about destinations for 2nd and 3rd A380's without zeroing out F award availability??
I could go via PVG or just direct from NRT. I really would not like to swap my planned itinerary for LH's current F seat but I wonder what the chance is of me picking either PVG or NRT and getting it?
Do you reckon LH will make any announcements in the next few months about destinations for 2nd and 3rd A380's without zeroing out F award availability??
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Hmmm I will be flying out of NRT on F award at the very end of August. My original plan was NRT-ICN-HKG(OZ F) stopover then fly LX F to FRA via ZRH. Now I am wondering if it is worth skipping a taste of OZ F, stopover in HKG and The Wing for a chance at getting the A380 and new F to FRA
I could go via PVG or just direct from NRT. I really would not like to swap my planned itinerary for LH's current F seat but I wonder what the chance is of me picking either PVG or NRT and getting it?
Do you reckon LH will make any announcements in the next few months about destinations for 2nd and 3rd A380's without zeroing out F award availability??
I could go via PVG or just direct from NRT. I really would not like to swap my planned itinerary for LH's current F seat but I wonder what the chance is of me picking either PVG or NRT and getting it?
Do you reckon LH will make any announcements in the next few months about destinations for 2nd and 3rd A380's without zeroing out F award availability??
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Probably this one?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/us-ai...ch-2010-a.html
Although the offer is open until the end of the month it may be too late unless you have a Dividend Miles account already. After signing up for a new DM account you have to wait 10/11 days before you can purchase miles.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/us-ai...ch-2010-a.html
Although the offer is open until the end of the month it may be too late unless you have a Dividend Miles account already. After signing up for a new DM account you have to wait 10/11 days before you can purchase miles.
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Other places are reporting that JFK seems to be the launch route again and NRT is now posponed? Back to the original plan I guess.
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So now i have to decide when i book JFK-FRA for august, on 401/400 or 404/405 or a combination? combo gives me a better shot at one flight on a380, whereas the set combos, I might wind up with zero.
then again until they start flying who knows what will happen
then again until they start flying who knows what will happen
Last edited by jmw2323; Apr 5, 2010 at 5:32 pm
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Lufthansa will do a test run of new business class seats in two rows of the 744 on 400/401 in August/September, so if you wanna bet on flying on the A380, book 404/405.
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I've searched for more info on when the 2nd, 3rd, 4th... deliveries would come, but to no avail. Any info would be appreciated.
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Test period is August 28th through October 24th, on LH 400/401 FRA-JFK.
21 seats in the C cabin will be removed and replaced by 12 new test seats in a 2-2-2 configuration (rather than 2-3-2). These seats cannot be reserved in advance; anyone who would like to participate in the test (read: anyone who wants to sleep on a proper full flat bed ) needs to talk to LH staff at the airport (flight manager, ideally, I presume).
The seat numbers will be 12AC, 12HK, 14AC, 14DG, 14HK and 15DG.
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My current favourite combination for intial A380-service is a LH404/405 and LH710/711 combo in June after the delivery of D-AIMB, and then another very long flight in August (JNB maybe) when D-AIMD becomes available.
Greetings - Dirk
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