Eurobonus Silver benefits
Feb 21, 2007, 10:44 am
#1
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Stockholm SE, London UK
Posts: 1,167
Eurobonus Silver benefits
Wanted to bring the topic of EBS benefits to the table again.
I must say that they are close to non existent, and I think it's a bit sad.
The only business benefit of this policy as I see it is that it scares people away from being downgraded to EBS from EBG...
Why not introduce a few more perks? Business lounge access when flying SK metal only at ARN, CPH and OSL for instance? But that could potentially overcrowd the lounges even worse?! I just feel that there should be something more than just business class check-in and more baggage! I don't think they even have priority on the phone line any more here in Sweden (they only mention EBG now, and waiting times are down to around 5-10 seconds now after only giving us EBG's priority!)
What other perks could there be?!
BA and BD are great where business lounge access is granted to their Silver card holders!
I must say that they are close to non existent, and I think it's a bit sad.
The only business benefit of this policy as I see it is that it scares people away from being downgraded to EBS from EBG...
Why not introduce a few more perks? Business lounge access when flying SK metal only at ARN, CPH and OSL for instance? But that could potentially overcrowd the lounges even worse?! I just feel that there should be something more than just business class check-in and more baggage! I don't think they even have priority on the phone line any more here in Sweden (they only mention EBG now, and waiting times are down to around 5-10 seconds now after only giving us EBG's priority!)
What other perks could there be?!
BA and BD are great where business lounge access is granted to their Silver card holders!
Feb 21, 2007, 10:51 am
#2
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 7,323
Wanted to bring the topic of EBS benefits to the table again.
I must say that they are close to non existent, and I think it's a bit sad.
The only business benefit of this policy as I see it is that it scares people away from being downgraded to EBS from EBG...
Why not introduce a few more perks? Business lounge access when flying SK metal only at ARN, CPH and OSL for instance? But that could potentially overcrowd the lounges even worse?! I just feel that there should be something more than just business class check-in and more baggage! I don't think they even have priority on the phone line any more here in Sweden (they only mention EBG now, and waiting times are down to around 5-10 seconds now after only giving us EBG's priority!)
What other perks could there be?!
BA and BD are great where business lounge access is granted to their Silver card holders!
I must say that they are close to non existent, and I think it's a bit sad.
The only business benefit of this policy as I see it is that it scares people away from being downgraded to EBS from EBG...
Why not introduce a few more perks? Business lounge access when flying SK metal only at ARN, CPH and OSL for instance? But that could potentially overcrowd the lounges even worse?! I just feel that there should be something more than just business class check-in and more baggage! I don't think they even have priority on the phone line any more here in Sweden (they only mention EBG now, and waiting times are down to around 5-10 seconds now after only giving us EBG's priority!)
What other perks could there be?!
BA and BD are great where business lounge access is granted to their Silver card holders!
We had discussions with EB about EBS. One of the propositions was to give EBS X Business Lounge passes pr. year. To give EBS year long access to the Business Lounges is not a good idea IMO, there are also issues with the *A. That's why we suggested a few lounge passes a year
If there are other suggestions, I hope the members can post them.
Feb 21, 2007, 11:16 am
#3
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Stockholm SE, London UK
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Well... Takes 10 one-way intra-European flights with BA in C...
With SK it would be 9 flights in C taking ARN-LHR as an example. For CPH-LHR it would be 13 flights in C! So I don't fully agree...
Only difference is that BA only awards tier points in business class and flexible economy, not discounted economy class. But hey, SK awards 25% right now in discounted economy, and people only travelling on those cannot gain status any more in EB (unless they travel 67 one-ways!
).
But... If SK still thinks it's too easy to get EBS, why not increase the levels and then also increase the benefits! I think that would be much more beneficial than the current system!
I think the proposition with a certain number of lounge entries would be a great start!
My points is simply that there isn't a great reason to have a status level such as EBS if there are no good benefits.
With SK it would be 9 flights in C taking ARN-LHR as an example. For CPH-LHR it would be 13 flights in C! So I don't fully agree...
Only difference is that BA only awards tier points in business class and flexible economy, not discounted economy class. But hey, SK awards 25% right now in discounted economy, and people only travelling on those cannot gain status any more in EB (unless they travel 67 one-ways!
).But... If SK still thinks it's too easy to get EBS, why not increase the levels and then also increase the benefits! I think that would be much more beneficial than the current system!
I think the proposition with a certain number of lounge entries would be a great start!
My points is simply that there isn't a great reason to have a status level such as EBS if there are no good benefits.
Feb 21, 2007, 11:47 am
#4
Join Date: Apr 2005
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it gives also 15% more points when flying on SK flight number (and perhaps SK metal is also required). With a cheap ticket, instead of getting 200 points you get 230!
on AF/KL, silver gets 50% more points on ALL Skyteam flights (at least). Those are not qualifying but that is quite a good boost to get awards a lot faster. No lounge access though but Gold is not really hard to get, it's 15 return trip Paris-London even in very cheap eco ticket @ 120 EUR each. (or 8 return trips Paris Copenhagen via Amsterdam... or 5 cheap AZ return CDG MXP FCO ATH
on AF/KL, silver gets 50% more points on ALL Skyteam flights (at least). Those are not qualifying but that is quite a good boost to get awards a lot faster. No lounge access though but Gold is not really hard to get, it's 15 return trip Paris-London even in very cheap eco ticket @ 120 EUR each. (or 8 return trips Paris Copenhagen via Amsterdam... or 5 cheap AZ return CDG MXP FCO ATH
Feb 21, 2007, 12:00 pm
#5
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Vantaa, Finland
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It requires SK *group* metal (SK, BT, KF, WF, EE). SK codeshares outside the SK group are not eligible (i.e. SK code on LH metal would not give any bonus to EBS or EBG, whereas SK code on BT metal would give).
Feb 21, 2007, 12:18 pm
#6
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 7,323
Well... Takes 10 one-way intra-European flights with BA in C...
With SK it would be 9 flights in C taking ARN-LHR as an example. For CPH-LHR it would be 13 flights in C! So I don't fully agree...
Only difference is that BA only awards tier points in business class and flexible economy, not discounted economy class. But hey, SK awards 25% right now in discounted economy, and people only travelling on those cannot gain status any more in EB (unless they travel 67 one-ways!).
With SK it would be 9 flights in C taking ARN-LHR as an example. For CPH-LHR it would be 13 flights in C! So I don't fully agree...
Only difference is that BA only awards tier points in business class and flexible economy, not discounted economy class. But hey, SK awards 25% right now in discounted economy, and people only travelling on those cannot gain status any more in EB (unless they travel 67 one-ways!
).ranskis also points out a very good EBS perk making it easier to retain EBS/get EBG, the 15% extra basic points.
We are working with SAS implementing these free lounge certs, we will for sure take this up with SAS next time we meet with them
Feb 21, 2007, 12:39 pm
#7
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Location: Stockholm SE, London UK
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I did a quick research on Silver lounge access across *A, and it looks like this:
So there really are quite a few *A members that now offer lounge access to their own lounges when travelling their own metal, or the option to buy a club card at discount rate.
I think NH's example of charging points is definitely interesting - could be an option!
Code:
M&M (LH/LX/LO) Yes BD Yes SA Yes JK Yes TP Yes NH Yes for 1000 points NZ Yes (one entry only, then Koru Club option) AC No (but can be purchased on card) UA No (but can be purchased on card) US No (but can be purchased on card) TG No SQ No SK No OZ No
I think NH's example of charging points is definitely interesting - could be an option!
Feb 21, 2007, 12:47 pm
#8
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 7,323
The tradition tells me that SAS will not let in people for cash/points, the only way to get in is to be *G or pay C.
It also might be confusing for the member when he tries to enter other non SAS lounges around the globe and gets rejected.
Feb 21, 2007, 1:22 pm
#9
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Finland
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For me the lounge access to SK lounge is just useless but I would welcome the free parking in TMP and priority treatment when possible
EBS is still allowed to check-in in the Biz check-in, right?
EBS is still allowed to check-in in the Biz check-in, right?
Feb 21, 2007, 4:22 pm
#11
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It is an interesting topic to bring up. I don't see why EBS can't have their phone priority anymore. When I called SAS as an EBS I would usually get an agent as soon as I had typed in my number, and it is a pity to see this nice perk reduced to EBG only now. Perhaps they could also introduce queue priority at the ticket offices?
Feb 21, 2007, 4:29 pm
#12
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: ARN
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It is an interesting topic to bring up. I don't see why EBS can't have their phone priority anymore. When I called SAS as an EBS I would usually get an agent as soon as I had typed in my number, and it is a pity to see this nice perk reduced to EBG only now. Perhaps they could also introduce queue priority at the ticket offices?
I admit that the service is fine once you get the option to enter the number, you always get an agent immediately.
Feb 22, 2007, 5:54 pm
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