New SAS long haul routes?
Jul 7, 2015, 2:24 am
#17
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+ BKK would lead to the aircraft standing idle at BKK for several hours before returning to CPH around midnight BKK time.
I would love to see SK return to BKK, but as stated above the competition for BKK is fierce and fares via European or MEA hubs are quite low (except on the direct TG flights
); BKK is no longer a business/high revenue destination which would make it difficuly for SK to make BKK profitable.
I would love to see SK return to BKK, but as stated above the competition for BKK is fierce and fares via European or MEA hubs are quite low (except on the direct TG flights
); BKK is no longer a business/high revenue destination which would make it difficuly for SK to make BKK profitable.
Jul 7, 2015, 4:22 am
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But you can also talk about that for HKG too - it's a serious cutthroat route and they are flying there (don't know for how long).
I thought most long haul flights have several hours for turnaround to ensure on time departure.
I thought most long haul flights have several hours for turnaround to ensure on time departure.
Jul 7, 2015, 6:34 am
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I don't you think you can really compare BKK and HKG as destinations. The only reason BKK was in demand earlier is because of the strange vacation status it has in Scandinavia. Something that doesn't extend to the same density in the rest of Europe. Because of that it is now only served by the incumbent and LLC's. In most cases HKG is a business destination.
Today there are only 2 *A options a day with (in my opinion) terrible timing. The only direct flight in the Scandinavian/Baltic region is with AY, same terrible timing and less feeder flights. There is considerable demand for HKG and definitely room for an additional direct *A flight.
Today there are only 2 *A options a day with (in my opinion) terrible timing. The only direct flight in the Scandinavian/Baltic region is with AY, same terrible timing and less feeder flights. There is considerable demand for HKG and definitely room for an additional direct *A flight.
Jul 7, 2015, 7:14 am
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Adjusting the BKK timetable with no down time for the plane seems to be challenging, and European airlines generally have their planes in BKK for a long time.
Jul 7, 2015, 7:34 am
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SK973
Sched Depart: 22:50 Copenhagen Terminal 3
Sched Arrive: 14:45 Sep 30 Bangkok -
Total journey time 10:55 hrs
SK 972
Sched Depart: 00:25 Bangkok -
Sched Arrive: 06:35 Copenhagen Terminal 3
Total journey time 11:10 hrs
For me, the timings were pretty good. Liked it.
Jul 7, 2015, 7:42 am
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10 hours is a lot - most of the long haul I flew from HKG have about 6 hours turnaround time (gets in at HKG around 16-17 and depart from 23-midnight-ish).
I definitely think there should be a market for BKK it's still a popular tourist destination - TK has 2 flights going there per day (not sure it's 7 days/week though).
I definitely think there should be a market for BKK it's still a popular tourist destination - TK has 2 flights going there per day (not sure it's 7 days/week though).
Jul 7, 2015, 8:35 am
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10 hours is a lot - most of the long haul I flew from HKG have about 6 hours turnaround time (gets in at HKG around 16-17 and depart from 23-midnight-ish).
I definitely think there should be a market for BKK it's still a popular tourist destination - TK has 2 flights going there per day (not sure it's 7 days/week though).
I definitely think there should be a market for BKK it's still a popular tourist destination - TK has 2 flights going there per day (not sure it's 7 days/week though).
Jul 7, 2015, 10:18 am
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Would it technically be possible to have 2 flights alternating, so 1 doing CPH-BKK-CPH one day and say CPH-some closer destination-CPH the other day.
"Some closer" destination could be any destination, say 8h away.
"Some closer" destination could be any destination, say 8h away.
Jul 7, 2015, 3:21 pm
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The biggest problem is that every new destination will add cost since you need to ensure operations there. So the flights there need to offset the cost in a way to make it a profitable business.
Jul 7, 2015, 4:09 pm
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Anyway, good news! You can still earn EB points on the Discover Norway ticket, on all the commercial routes, to be precise. Not just on the first leg booked...
Which means I get 32 flights, several cases of fast track, lounge access in OSL, thousands of EB points and even priority luggage tags (despite not being respected, which doesn't matter on a flight with 20 pax) and, most important, I get to see Norway, for about 400 Euro in total. Will certainly do again next year.
Jul 8, 2015, 5:22 pm
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As I recall BKK SK973/972 have had several technical difficulties in the end before they decided to cease the route... It was like cancer to them.. I remember it got cancelled in BKK and it took days for the mechanics to get the spare-parts from Scandinavia.. When they were set and ready to fly the scheduled departure from CPH SK973 got sick too.. It cost them a lot of trouble and money...
Jul 9, 2015, 3:44 am
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During the lunch meeting they had with EBG/EBD members last month, I specifically asked about Asian routes - they said they are not planning any new ones "we don't think AY's business model is sustainable on the long run"
Jul 9, 2015, 4:00 am
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As I recall BKK SK973/972 have had several technical difficulties in the end before they decided to cease the route... It was like cancer to them.. I remember it got cancelled in BKK and it took days for the mechanics to get the spare-parts from Scandinavia.. When they were set and ready to fly the scheduled departure from CPH SK973 got sick too.. It cost them a lot of trouble and money...