New SAS long haul routes?
May 2, 2016, 3:34 pm
#226
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Preferable @30.000 feet
Programs: More than one
Posts: 1,673
Unfortunately I have to use a online booking tool with a company travel policy loaded. Together they are won't even get to the knee of a half brain TA. Calling the TA often result in ending up on crappy airlines with long layovers. :-(
Last edited by highupinthesky; May 2, 2016 at 3:41 pm
May 2, 2016, 3:37 pm
#227
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Preferable @30.000 feet
Programs: More than one
Posts: 1,673
It appears SK simply hasn't updated their website booking engine to connect in Boston in either direction. I have a few itineraries coming up where I was also surprised not to see Boston in the list of connection options. There are a few AC destinations that make more sense to/from BOS instead of EWR.
Wether this is simply not done yet or done on purpose as a result of only flying a small aircraft I do not know.
Wether this is simply not done yet or done on purpose as a result of only flying a small aircraft I do not know.
Aug 12, 2016, 6:41 pm
#229
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,095
Want someone to guess if the SK MIA flights will be more reliable than the SK IAD or ORD flights, if only because SK staff and their family and friends want to not lose out on beach time? Or will concerns about the Zika STD and mosquito transmissions mean that there is a reduced interest in the route? 
More seriously, I think SK have already listed the plane type they will use for this route. It can be figured out during the process to make a booking for SK MIA flights on some online travel agencies. It comes up for me as an Airbus 330-300.
More seriously, I think SK have already listed the plane type they will use for this route. It can be figured out during the process to make a booking for SK MIA flights on some online travel agencies. It comes up for me as an Airbus 330-300.
Last edited by GUWonder; Aug 12, 2016 at 6:47 pm
Aug 13, 2016, 4:11 am
#230
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Plainfield, IL USA
Programs: Eurobonus Gold
Posts: 97
I edited my question. I know the A330 will most likely be used. I was wondering what schedule rotation will be used. The LAX planes fly ARN/LAX/ARN/EWR/ARN. The ORD planes fly ARN/ORD/ARN/HKG/ARN/ORD. I am booked on a MiA flight this fall and it is the A330.
Aug 13, 2016, 6:38 am
#231
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: CPH
Programs: SK-EBD
Posts: 1,273
Should be A330E. Rotation will generally be CPH-MIA-OSL-MIA-CPH.
Aug 26, 2016, 3:16 am
#234
Join Date: Oct 2011
Programs: EuroBonus Diamond, Delta Skymiles 360, BAEC LTG, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 2,827
Something else I've noticed is that SK offers very strange connections out of LAX, primarily on the return to ARN. On a recent trip to SAT I was offered the following routing: ARN-ORD-SAT returning SAT-LAX-ARN.
Now you might think that is silly but the reality is that the connection was faster and provides you a longer TA flight with better food than from EWR/ORD and with sufficient hours to sleep. Coming back from the central US this was probably the most convenient travel with least jetlag.
I've see a few other connections offered which initially probably make no sense, but most people I know will avoid EWR like the plague and if you want to fly to ARN directly that leaves ORD which is typically very full as well and the new late departure leaves very long layovers if your origin isn't a AA/UA hub.
Sep 1, 2016, 1:46 pm
#235
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: GOT
Posts: 1,167
Sep 1, 2016, 3:18 pm
#236
Join Date: Oct 2011
Programs: EuroBonus Diamond, Delta Skymiles 360, BAEC LTG, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 2,827
Well that means they didn't have one, at least for a while right? In the past there have been numerous really interesting and flat out awesome routes operated by SAS but those are not existing anymore. Also SK not being able to operate it profitable doesn't change anything to my statement. Basically DY had to show them LAX was a perfectly fine economically sensible route.
Sep 2, 2016, 1:27 am
#237
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,935
SAS flew to LAX until the mid-90s (exact year is beyond my memory - at least I flew it in '92). It was a halo route - never profitable. In the '00 SAS realised that hardly any on the IC routes were profitable - and thus a major rework began. SFO was launched in 2013 - and a few years later LAX followed (albeit to a small airport up north ). By the way in that same time period several US airlines (AA, DL, UA, CO) have tried their luck to OSL, ARN and CPH with ra
While I would love SAS to have more destinations - and I can name quite a few I would desire - I can hardly blame them for securing a profitable business
). By the way in that same time period several US airlines (AA, DL, UA, CO) have tried their luck to OSL, ARN and CPH with raWhile I would love SAS to have more destinations - and I can name quite a few I would desire - I can hardly blame them for securing a profitable business
Sep 2, 2016, 8:50 am
#239
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,160
LAX was closed when SK opened the route to KIX. At that time it was expected that Japan would yield the profit that LAX did not. But then the Japanese economy tanked. The KIX route was closed again at the end of the Winter timetable 96/97.
Sep 2, 2016, 5:17 pm
#240
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: GOT
Posts: 1,167
Being unable to operate it profitably was directly linked to the market not being there at the time. Having a route out of "self-respect" sounds like a supremely bad financial reason. Hindsight is 20/20 and now we see the route is profitable again but it undoubtedly would not been in the years following the Lehman crash.