Convert Marriott Status to Ritz-Carlton Status?
#1
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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Convert Marriott Status to Ritz-Carlton Status?
I am a former platinum (now Gold) Marriott Rewards member... will be staying at a Ritz-Carlton for the first time tomorrow.
Simple question: should I go through the process of converting my Marriott Rewards account to a Ritz-Carlton account? Are Marriott Gold customers treated at all differently from Ritz-Carlton Gold customers, in terms of upgrades or other accommodations? Has anyone had good (or bad) experiences as a Marriott Gold customer at a Ritz-Carlton property?
I understand one can convert from one type of account to the other, but don't want to deal with hold times and the hassle unless it's necessary. The FAQ on the Marriott website says that converting isn't necessary, but FAQs can be deceiving. Also worried that converting the account will screw up future reservations and already-enrolled promotions.
Thanks for any advice you can offer.
Simple question: should I go through the process of converting my Marriott Rewards account to a Ritz-Carlton account? Are Marriott Gold customers treated at all differently from Ritz-Carlton Gold customers, in terms of upgrades or other accommodations? Has anyone had good (or bad) experiences as a Marriott Gold customer at a Ritz-Carlton property?
I understand one can convert from one type of account to the other, but don't want to deal with hold times and the hassle unless it's necessary. The FAQ on the Marriott website says that converting isn't necessary, but FAQs can be deceiving. Also worried that converting the account will screw up future reservations and already-enrolled promotions.
Thanks for any advice you can offer.
#2
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I am a former platinum (now Gold) Marriott Rewards member... will be staying at a Ritz-Carlton for the first time tomorrow.
Simple question: should I go through the process of converting my Marriott Rewards account to a Ritz-Carlton account? Are Marriott Gold customers treated at all differently from Ritz-Carlton Gold customers, in terms of upgrades or other accommodations? Has anyone had good (or bad) experiences as a Marriott Gold customer at a Ritz-Carlton property?
I understand one can convert from one type of account to the other, but don't want to deal with hold times and the hassle unless it's necessary. The FAQ on the Marriott website says that converting isn't necessary, but FAQs can be deceiving. Also worried that converting the account will screw up future reservations and already-enrolled promotions.
Thanks for any advice you can offer.
Simple question: should I go through the process of converting my Marriott Rewards account to a Ritz-Carlton account? Are Marriott Gold customers treated at all differently from Ritz-Carlton Gold customers, in terms of upgrades or other accommodations? Has anyone had good (or bad) experiences as a Marriott Gold customer at a Ritz-Carlton property?
I understand one can convert from one type of account to the other, but don't want to deal with hold times and the hassle unless it's necessary. The FAQ on the Marriott website says that converting isn't necessary, but FAQs can be deceiving. Also worried that converting the account will screw up future reservations and already-enrolled promotions.
Thanks for any advice you can offer.
#3
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 211
Another question which might be related to this, can I apply for Chase Ritz-Carlton credit card with Marriott Reward Membership # ?
When filling out the application form, there is a field called "Ritz-Carlton Reward Number", does it work if I put Marriott Reward Membership # ?
Thanks in advance
When filling out the application form, there is a field called "Ritz-Carlton Reward Number", does it work if I put Marriott Reward Membership # ?
Thanks in advance
#4
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To this day, I don't fully understand the pros and cons to converting my account, nor what converting to RC Rewards even means to begin with.
I figure maybe it'll trigger different promos. Is that it? Benefits at properties (from Fairfield to Ritz) don't seem to change. Or do they?
I briefly thought of converting just to maybe get a cool-looking card. "Hey, look at me, I'm a Ritz-Carlton Elite!" Sounds blingier than being a Marriott Elite... But then I decided it wasn't worth the effort.
I figure maybe it'll trigger different promos. Is that it? Benefits at properties (from Fairfield to Ritz) don't seem to change. Or do they?
I briefly thought of converting just to maybe get a cool-looking card. "Hey, look at me, I'm a Ritz-Carlton Elite!" Sounds blingier than being a Marriott Elite... But then I decided it wasn't worth the effort.
#5
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I think the main reason to convert to RC is to lay the foundation to get the Southwest Companion pass
#6
Join Date: May 2014
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To this day, I don't fully understand the pros and cons to converting my account, nor what converting to RC Rewards even means to begin with.
I figure maybe it'll trigger different promos. Is that it? Benefits at properties (from Fairfield to Ritz) don't seem to change. Or do they?
I figure maybe it'll trigger different promos. Is that it? Benefits at properties (from Fairfield to Ritz) don't seem to change. Or do they?
To the OP. You would not switch programs if you are going to only stay once at a RC property. You would switch if you stay almost exclusively at RC hotels. The benefits of the two programs are identical.
#7
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Hi,
Just to add another point, I did my conversion to RC rewards this year since I had lots of upcoming stays at the Ritz, what I can notice is that promo's are not that nice but what is worst is that (without knowing if it is the same customer service center for MR), I noticed that customer service response and in helping and going out of their way to help you went downhill.
I have still an open issue with them which was escalated to higher management, but after 5 weeks still heard nothing from them. If I don't hear anything next week I will put one of the board members in my response.
I never really had this problem when I contact customer service @ MR. And this year my business with them was really high especially since I had more than 2 months stay at RC's.
Cheers!
Just to add another point, I did my conversion to RC rewards this year since I had lots of upcoming stays at the Ritz, what I can notice is that promo's are not that nice but what is worst is that (without knowing if it is the same customer service center for MR), I noticed that customer service response and in helping and going out of their way to help you went downhill.
I have still an open issue with them which was escalated to higher management, but after 5 weeks still heard nothing from them. If I don't hear anything next week I will put one of the board members in my response.
I never really had this problem when I contact customer service @ MR. And this year my business with them was really high especially since I had more than 2 months stay at RC's.
Cheers!
#8
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As someone that works at the Ritz, I can tell you that the it's not a 1:1 in terms of platinum for platinum.
Ex.The lack of comp. Club access being the main one. A day hardly goes buy with someone that has Marriott Gold/Platinum level with someone asking why it's not 1:1... Most people are ok with it, but you do get the odd upset person.
Life goes on!
Ex.The lack of comp. Club access being the main one. A day hardly goes buy with someone that has Marriott Gold/Platinum level with someone asking why it's not 1:1... Most people are ok with it, but you do get the odd upset person.
Life goes on!
#9
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Are you saying rc plats get comp club access? Because, in general that has not been reported here. Both MR and RC plays have had to pay for club access as the program states.
#10
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An excellent question. AFAIK, there is no "official" rule giving club access to any elite members. Now I do think that holders of the RC branded CC do get a limited number of "club access" certs, but those have nothing to do with elite status and have quite a few "restrictions" around their use.
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Join Date: May 2014
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why on earth can we not delete our own posts, how utterly absurd
why on earth can we not delete our own posts, how utterly absurd
#12
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 344
As someone that works at the Ritz, I can tell you that the it's not a 1:1 in terms of platinum for platinum.
Ex.The lack of comp. Club access being the main one. A day hardly goes buy with someone that has Marriott Gold/Platinum level with someone asking why it's not 1:1... Most people are ok with it, but you do get the odd upset person.
Life goes on!
Ex.The lack of comp. Club access being the main one. A day hardly goes buy with someone that has Marriott Gold/Platinum level with someone asking why it's not 1:1... Most people are ok with it, but you do get the odd upset person.
Life goes on!
Just to make this perfectly clear as this is not complicated:
#1 - The ONLY difference between RC rewards and Marriott rewards are the promos that are offered (!)
#2 - Other than that, ALL benefits are the same in both programs (basically repeating #1)
#3 - OF COURSE RC club lounge access is not a benefit to elites of RC or Marriott rewards. RC CLUB lounges offer free French champagne, free premium alcohol, gourmet meals all day long and a staff that serves you in luxury style from opening to closing. Whereas a Marriott or Renaissance (or Hilton or Sheraton) EXECUTIVE lounge offers a breakfast (sometimes), snacks or dinner (sometimes) and some drinks for a few hours at night (sometimes) with one staff member on duty.
#13
Join Date: Jun 2005
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There is no comparison between the club in the RC and the Marriott. RC blows the Marriot club out of the water by far.
I can see why Ritz offers no complimentary club access, and I dont' blame them.
I can see why Ritz offers no complimentary club access, and I dont' blame them.
#14
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 225
"An excellent question. AFAIK, there is no "official" rule giving club access to any elite members. Now I do think that holders of the RC branded CC do get a limited number of "club access" certs, but those have nothing to do with elite status and have quite a few "restrictions" around their use."
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Agreed. RC CC gives you 3 Club Access certificates per account year, good for up to 7 days each, upgrade at time of reservation, space available. It can pay for itself many times over if you value these benefits. Not clear about "restrictions" you mention?
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Agreed. RC CC gives you 3 Club Access certificates per account year, good for up to 7 days each, upgrade at time of reservation, space available. It can pay for itself many times over if you value these benefits. Not clear about "restrictions" you mention?
#15
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