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Even a little bit more than Swiss people on a general trend ... (I'm Swiss but living in the UK , so can't pretend anymore ... LOL)
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There is a clear lack of services to Scandanavia and the Benelux from EK, EY, GF and QR. Amsterdam and Sweden neet to be capitalized on. I get why EK would be a bit miffed at QR getting to Stockholm first-its a key market in Europe.
Norwegians are supposed to be very rich, think of all those smoked salmon exports. ..
So the Norwegians are rich, therefore perfect for the Middle East. I'd imagine it would be quite a small but high yield market unless I'm mistaken, the Norwegian population is relatively small & spread out. Perhaps a daily 3 class A330-200 or even an A340-500 if they ask for Suites...
I would also say that oil exports complement the salmon very nicely...
AMS is being discussed on the Emirates forum. I beleive bilateral issues are in the way (the Dutch don't want EY/EK cannibalising KLM etc. - KLM fly double daily B777s to DXB). I also beleive that it is a low-yield destination. Scandanavai seems to be the major area that isn't covered looking at most Middle Eastern airlines route maps.
I beleive Brussels is an excellent market to capitalise on given the connections to Africa, America & India as well as the demand from the Belgium capital itself.
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AFAIK EK does not fly to AMS because it uses all of its slots for (more profitable) cargo.
I would prefer to see QR fly to markets that EK/EY/GF have not already tapped - maybe OSL,CPH,AMS,BRU,EDI etc. I am not sure how many A319LRs QR has but they seem to be an appropriate aircraft for such routes + they come with a full-fledged long haul business class product.
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AFAIK EK does not fly to AMS because it uses all of its slots for (more profitable) cargo.
I would prefer to see QR fly to markets that EK/EY/GF have not already tapped - maybe OSL,CPH,AMS,BRU,EDI etc. I am not sure how many A319LRs QR has but they seem to be an appropriate aircraft for such routes + they come with a full-fledged long haul business class product.
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Narrowbodies in a long haul config don't accomodate that many pax... They need to be relatively thin/high yield routes that will make the risk worthwhile. Ideally, QR A332s should be used, not A319LRs in my opinion.
Totally agree that QR should explore different markets. Edinburgh would be an excellent move!
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Narrowbodies in a long haul config don't accomodate that many pax... They need to be relatively thin/high yield routes that will make the risk worthwhile. Ideally, QR A332s should be used, not A319LRs in my opinion.
I agree, but QR is still quite a small airline compared to EK. It has 0 connecting traffic to Australia via Doha, and not that many frequencies to other destinations. IMHO CPH, OSL etc. would be thin high yield routes. Just as EK starts new destinations with 3-class A330-200s, I think QR should start with A319LRs to see if the demand is there. AFAIK QR is using an A319LR to ARN (though I may be wrong.)
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I agree, but QR is still quite a small airline compared to EK. It has 0 connecting traffic to Australia via Doha, and not that many frequencies to other destinations. IMHO CPH, OSL etc. would be thin high yield routes. Just as EK starts new destinations with 3-class A330-200s, I think QR should start with A319LRs to see if the demand is there. AFAIK QR is using an A319LR to ARN (though I may be wrong.)
Cheers,
I feel that the A319LR being so small (110 seats 8J/102Y) why bother? However, such aircraft would be excellent for seeking out tiny niche markets. I think places such as CPH/ARN/OSL are big enough for widebodies...
But somewhere like Kristiansand or Bergen or Aberdeen would be purrfect for the A319LR. Niche market - oil - v. lucrative...
Good. More competition to European carriers and Emirates for connecting traffic to India and SE Asia. This is great news for me, since I travel often to HYD and BOM from IAH.
Good. More competition to European carriers and Emirates for connecting traffic to India and SE Asia. This is great news for me, since I travel often to HYD and BOM from IAH.
It says it will operate 3 times weekly until November when it goes daily. B777-200LRs. Will these be 2 class like the B77Ws?
Amsterdam would be a great addition to either QR or EK (I do not consider EY to have the fully developed network). In fact, it would be like connecting a tube to an oil pipeline, in a way. The airline would then be tapping into a lucrative passenger market, and taking away, bit by bit, KLM's long-haul sectors. I see this starting daily sometime in 2009 then going double daily by the end of the year.
What about Brazil? QR built a team and bought its own premises in Sao Paulo, where it now has a dedicated office.
EK, however, was quicker and introduced DXB-GRU nonstop B772LR 6 weekly to be upgraded next June to daily operations. Loads of EK to GRU are about 90% making it a destination of high loads and yields. Some days of the week EK deploys the B77W to GRU. EK is now planning to open DXB-GIG, DXB-EZE or DXB-GIG-EZE 3/4 weekly.
It seems GRU or GIG is a major missing destination in QR network.
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Amsterdam would be a great addition to either QR or EK (I do not consider EY to have the fully developed network). In fact, it would be like connecting a tube to an oil pipeline, in a way. The airline would then be tapping into a lucrative passenger market, and taking away, bit by bit, KLM's long-haul sectors. I see this starting daily sometime in 2009 then going double daily by the end of the year.
Agree 100%. AMS is not low yields. KLM has an extensive network in the Gulf. In addition, dont forget that AMS is the HQ of Shell. A lot of KLM long-haul traffic is feeded with traffic originating from the Gulf. AMS is a major missing link in QR and EK network.
I was passing through ORD yesterday and saw a Qatar A340 taxi out and taking off. Anyone know why it was there?
Perhaps this was the plane carrying Sheikha Mozah, Consort of the Emir of Qatar, who visited Chicago and Northwestern University on Wednesday and Thursday.
