More schedule changes
#1
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More schedule changes
Is it just me, or is there a whole plethora of schedule changes going on at the moment?
I have one particular journey, which is now only 2 months away, ARN-DOH-KUL, which has probably had 6-7 time changes in the last month. Some of these are 10-20 minute changes, and now the outbound departure time has been brought forward by almost 2 hours. Good thing I had booked a massive 6 hour cushion for my connecting flight in from LHR, especially with oneworld's no-notice luggage check-thru policy change...
What's going on? Equipment changes and selective cancellations is one thing, but can't QR keep to a published schedule?
I have one particular journey, which is now only 2 months away, ARN-DOH-KUL, which has probably had 6-7 time changes in the last month. Some of these are 10-20 minute changes, and now the outbound departure time has been brought forward by almost 2 hours. Good thing I had booked a massive 6 hour cushion for my connecting flight in from LHR, especially with oneworld's no-notice luggage check-thru policy change...
What's going on? Equipment changes and selective cancellations is one thing, but can't QR keep to a published schedule?
#2
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Is it just me, or is there a whole plethora of schedule changes going on at the moment?
I have one particular journey, which is now only 2 months away, ARN-DOH-KUL, which has probably had 6-7 time changes in the last month. Some of these are 10-20 minute changes, and now the outbound departure time has been brought forward by almost 2 hours. Good thing I had booked a massive 6 hour cushion for my connecting flight in from LHR, especially with oneworld's no-notice luggage check-thru policy change...
What's going on? Equipment changes and selective cancellations is one thing, but can't QR keep to a published schedule?
I have one particular journey, which is now only 2 months away, ARN-DOH-KUL, which has probably had 6-7 time changes in the last month. Some of these are 10-20 minute changes, and now the outbound departure time has been brought forward by almost 2 hours. Good thing I had booked a massive 6 hour cushion for my connecting flight in from LHR, especially with oneworld's no-notice luggage check-thru policy change...
What's going on? Equipment changes and selective cancellations is one thing, but can't QR keep to a published schedule?
All airlines do this, and I have had around 20 (yes, TWENTY) schedule changes from AA over the past 3 days because they too, are playing with the timetables.
It is perfectly normal, and comes down to a host of factors.
Sixth Freedom (I think) has commented on the reasons behind the changes previously, and in some detail.
Nothing to worry about though, but do keep an eye on your bookings - or use an App like MyFlightsApp to keep on top of things.
Safe travels,
M
#3
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Lichfield
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50 minutes connection
I've just received notification from Checkmytrip.com I am flying AMS-DOH-HKG and my connection time is now just 50 minutes. I know QR publish a 45 mins MCT, but I arrive at Doha at 1:30am and depart 2:20am. Will the 50 minutes connection be do'able without having to sprint (I'm in biz class)?
#4
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I've just received notification from Checkmytrip.com I am flying AMS-DOH-HKG and my connection time is now just 50 minutes. I know QR publish a 45 mins MCT, but I arrive at Doha at 1:30am and depart 2:20am. Will the 50 minutes connection be do'able without having to sprint (I'm in biz class)?
#5
Join Date: Apr 2012
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Slotski unless your connection is very late there should be no problem. I have a similar connection to HKG next Tuesday and I am not worried. Prior to landing the IFE usually shows the departure gates for all connections. Be prepared and note the gate number. That alone can save several minutes!
You have the advantage of fasttrack security so just relax, don't rush and it will be no problem.
You have the advantage of fasttrack security so just relax, don't rush and it will be no problem.
#6
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I've just received notification from Checkmytrip.com I am flying AMS-DOH-HKG and my connection time is now just 50 minutes. I know QR publish a 45 mins MCT, but I arrive at Doha at 1:30am and depart 2:20am. Will the 50 minutes connection be do'able without having to sprint (I'm in biz class)?
#7
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In fact, knowing DOH, I would never have booked anything as foolish as that - it was a schedule change that made my planned 90-120 minute connections all 45-50 mins. The problem with DOH is there are so many bus gates, all bus arrivals are re-screened, and the bus departures happen from the other end of the terminal (genius design!)
This is my other issue with the QR scheduling at the moment. When there used to be one main East-West bank in the morning, connections were typically a sensible 1.5-2.5 hrs. After the banks were split about a year ago, 45-60 minute connections are all too common, and really unpleasant. Has anyone seen the rescreening security area look anything other than a zoo?! It's not as if they look at the x-rays or check when the scanners beep...
Anyway, my tips would be: be prepared to push into the security queue, have running shoes, and travel light in clothes you don't mind sweating in
#8
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Thanks for your tips and advice. It is annoying that my original booking had a connection time of 1 hour 25 minutes.
I have connected through Doha quite a few times, always in Business and with a long connection time. The security appears to be a joke, none of the staff seem to be taking the beeps and x-rays seriously.
I have connected through Doha quite a few times, always in Business and with a long connection time. The security appears to be a joke, none of the staff seem to be taking the beeps and x-rays seriously.
#9
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kt74 +1
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I have a 55min connection after a schedule change for early oct coming from AMS and don't like it at all.
Last change was from BRU to BKK reduced to 50 min.
Plane departed 10 min late due to ATC although ready to go 15 min early, stress starts at point of origin. Landed DOH 10 min late also. Booking mentioned help required at DOH, was a bus connection, no one from QR to see at arrivals, security check a mess.
Had to run like crazy, had problem boarding gate closed.
Finally flight to BKK left 30 min late waiting for OSL pax and my bags did not make it, adding more stress at BKK, had connecting domestic flight, nearly missed connection also and had to return UTH airport next day to pick up bags.
No more of this for me, less than 60 min is unacceptable.
I do have 6 DOH connections booked, only one with less than 60 minutes, it's one too much...
I have a 55min connection after a schedule change for early oct coming from AMS and don't like it at all.
Last change was from BRU to BKK reduced to 50 min.
Plane departed 10 min late due to ATC although ready to go 15 min early, stress starts at point of origin. Landed DOH 10 min late also. Booking mentioned help required at DOH, was a bus connection, no one from QR to see at arrivals, security check a mess.
Had to run like crazy, had problem boarding gate closed.
Finally flight to BKK left 30 min late waiting for OSL pax and my bags did not make it, adding more stress at BKK, had connecting domestic flight, nearly missed connection also and had to return UTH airport next day to pick up bags.
No more of this for me, less than 60 min is unacceptable.
I do have 6 DOH connections booked, only one with less than 60 minutes, it's one too much...
#10
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Berkshire
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I've had some changes forced on me...
Flying:
CPT-DOH QR1370 13/NOV 13.20-23.20
DOH-OSL QR175 14/NOV 06.45-11.40 changed to 08.25-13.25
So, now we qualify for the transit hotel where we did not before, as we are traveling to a valid destination and 8hrs+ transit, and there is no earlier direct connection.
But, this was one of the supersaver fares from Oslo, OSL-DOH-CPT for ~700, and not all fares are valid for the transit hotel offer.
Do you guys think I'll have any luck getting the hotel offer?
Flying:
CPT-DOH QR1370 13/NOV 13.20-23.20
DOH-OSL QR175 14/NOV 06.45-11.40 changed to 08.25-13.25
So, now we qualify for the transit hotel where we did not before, as we are traveling to a valid destination and 8hrs+ transit, and there is no earlier direct connection.
But, this was one of the supersaver fares from Oslo, OSL-DOH-CPT for ~700, and not all fares are valid for the transit hotel offer.
Do you guys think I'll have any luck getting the hotel offer?
#11
Join Date: Apr 2012
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BA038_Passenger I doubt that STPC will apply.
You need to have spent USD 400 on a sector before STPC is even considered
This is how you can calculate it:
Your basis for calculating STPC is half the Ticket fare plus the YQ fuel surcharge divided by two for a return journey and converted to USD
Using the extract of a fare breakdown from an E-ticket shown below as an example
Ticket fare plus
Fuel surcharge (YQxx)
divided by two for a return ticket
and converted to USD
i.e. 7768 + 2660 = 10428/2 = 5214 DKK
5214 /6.58 = USD792.40
"Ticket Fare: DKK 7768.00
Total paid: DKK 10774.00
Taxes and Carrier imposed Fees: DKK 2660.00 Fuel Surcharge (YQAC) , DKK 56.00 Fiscal Tax (YRVB) , DKK179.00 Passenger Service Charge (Domestic) (ZOAE) , DKK 8.00 Passenger Service Charge Departures (PZSE) , DKK 103.00 Air Passenger
Departure Tax (HKAE)"
1 USD = DKK 6.58
In the above EXAMPLE calculation the fare qualifies You need to do the arithmetic on your ticket yourself. GBP 1.00 = USD 1.32
You need to have spent USD 400 on a sector before STPC is even considered
This is how you can calculate it:
Your basis for calculating STPC is half the Ticket fare plus the YQ fuel surcharge divided by two for a return journey and converted to USD
Using the extract of a fare breakdown from an E-ticket shown below as an example
Ticket fare plus
Fuel surcharge (YQxx)
divided by two for a return ticket
and converted to USD
i.e. 7768 + 2660 = 10428/2 = 5214 DKK
5214 /6.58 = USD792.40
"Ticket Fare: DKK 7768.00
Total paid: DKK 10774.00
Taxes and Carrier imposed Fees: DKK 2660.00 Fuel Surcharge (YQAC) , DKK 56.00 Fiscal Tax (YRVB) , DKK179.00 Passenger Service Charge (Domestic) (ZOAE) , DKK 8.00 Passenger Service Charge Departures (PZSE) , DKK 103.00 Air Passenger
Departure Tax (HKAE)"
1 USD = DKK 6.58
In the above EXAMPLE calculation the fare qualifies You need to do the arithmetic on your ticket yourself. GBP 1.00 = USD 1.32
#12
Join Date: Mar 2015
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I've had some flight changes imposed which means I now have a 35 min connection time from my OSL flight arriving to my flight to SIN departing. Is this doable or should I push Qatar to rebook either the OSL or SIN flight?
#13
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I'm surprised that QR have booked you under the MCT, so I'd definitely give them a ring to check things.
Make sure that your connection is 35mins...and not 1 day and 35mins!
Safe travels,
M
#14
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: UK
Programs: BA GGL; Lifetime Gold
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MCT at HIA used to be 35mins, but it then moved to 45mins around 15 months ago.
I'm surprised that QR have booked you under the MCT, so I'd definitely give them a ring to check things.
Make sure that your connection is 35mins...and not 1 day and 35mins!
Safe travels,
M
I'm surprised that QR have booked you under the MCT, so I'd definitely give them a ring to check things.
Make sure that your connection is 35mins...and not 1 day and 35mins!
Safe travels,
M
#15
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: BRS
Programs: BA Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 4,958
Good luck with that! But seriously, let us know how you get on.