QF good at upgrading its Plats?
#16
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I have offered to swap out of the bulkhead seat for a PAX w/ infant when travelling in J and have then been promptly lectured about the swap by the CSM as PAX cant just organise such things amongst themselves.
I probably wouldn't volunteer a swap (yes for SYD-LAX, no LAX-SYD) if I had managed to score a bulkhead in Y however as these are blocked by yield management and cannot be preallocated by res, only becoming available in the last 48hrs. I however wouldn't ask for an upgrade in return but do feel that something would need to be offered to entice me to move further back down the plane (a spare seat next to me perhaps). Yes, I do understand that you must follow a FA direction while on an aircraft but to score a bulkhead is a rare treat especially to or from LAX. I have never had a Y bulkhead seat and I have done the trip no less than 32 times in the last 6 years.
Back on topic I havent had an op-up from QF in 3 years. My last up-up was J to F on LA from SYD-AKL last year.
I probably wouldn't volunteer a swap (yes for SYD-LAX, no LAX-SYD) if I had managed to score a bulkhead in Y however as these are blocked by yield management and cannot be preallocated by res, only becoming available in the last 48hrs. I however wouldn't ask for an upgrade in return but do feel that something would need to be offered to entice me to move further back down the plane (a spare seat next to me perhaps). Yes, I do understand that you must follow a FA direction while on an aircraft but to score a bulkhead is a rare treat especially to or from LAX. I have never had a Y bulkhead seat and I have done the trip no less than 32 times in the last 6 years.
Back on topic I havent had an op-up from QF in 3 years. My last up-up was J to F on LA from SYD-AKL last year.
#19
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Isn't that a bit selfish? A family misses out on getting a bassinet position because you had a hand out for an op-up. On many airlines you wouldn't even be asked for permission but instead TOLD that bulkhead seat is unavailable and you now have xx.
Anyway, in answer to the OP - no op-ups for me.
Anyway, in answer to the OP - no op-ups for me.
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#23
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Isn't that a bit selfish? A family misses out on getting a bassinet position because you had a hand out for an op-up. On many airlines you wouldn't even be asked for permission but instead TOLD that bulkhead seat is unavailable and you now have xx.
Anyway, in answer to the OP - no op-ups for me.
Anyway, in answer to the OP - no op-ups for me.
We've all heard some sob story from someone at some point about why you should let them go before you or give up something you took the effort to secure for yourself... I'm afraid it just doesn't wash with me anymore.
My most recent experience of this I posted a while back - a woman with baby asked if she could push in front of me because her flight was about to close... I thought it a little strange as I'd not heard any flights being called forward in the few minutes I was standing there - but since I had plenty of time to spare didn't mind...
Suddenly her husband and his golf clubs appeared out of nowhere, and the couple proceeded to take forever checking in - no doubt wrangling over which seats they "deserved"...
Yes compassion and consideration are one thing - but I'm no longer about to just hand everything to people who expect people to treat them differently because they are too lazy to get to the airport on time!
/rant
#24
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Anyways - back on point, last op-up for me was last night (see other post on 'what happened to Qf 776 ). Last op up for my partner was a goodie - they scored a Y-J upgrade ex MEL to LAX on QF25 because of school hols and the flight was full on the MEL-AKL sector.
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Last edited by LHR/MEL/Europe FF; Jan 14, 2008 at 12:47 am
#26
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Isn't that a bit selfish? A family misses out on getting a bassinet position because you had a hand out for an op-up. On many airlines you wouldn't even be asked for permission but instead TOLD that bulkhead seat is unavailable and you now have xx.
Anyway, in answer to the OP - no op-ups for me.
Anyway, in answer to the OP - no op-ups for me.
#27
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Originally Posted by ozzie
THe family only needs one of the seats at the bassinet position. Why ask the platinum to move ? One of the benefits of being a FF is being assigned the best seats.
As a Platinum, when you rang to pre-assign your bulkhead seat, you would have been told (as I have time and again) that your seat allocation is not guaranteed. The advantage of being Platinum is that you can select another "best seat", and not suffer the inconvenience of being moved from a seat you were told this was likely to occur in. Or having to argue "I'm Platinum and I deserve/earned/am owed this seat".
Originally Posted by bdmaus
Oh puh-lease... I can think of so many ways that families can sit together without inconveniencing anyone - and most of them involve getting to the airport in enough time to be allocated seats together.
I am still curious at the rationale for the argument that a family may be less deserving of a bulkhead/bassinet seat than a Platinum...
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My friends flew recently with a baby to Europe and had a choice between SQ, MH and QF. They (a) checked the bassinet weight allowance for each airline (SQ won at 11 kgs) and (b) rang the airline to see if the bassinet seat was free before finalising the booking on-line.
All families can do this (or do it through their agent). So the point is that if I have requested a seat and been granted it, why should I move to a worse seat in economy once I am seated? Move to biz class, sure, but not to a worse seat.
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lme ff