Toilets on A332 J class
#1
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Join Date: Sep 2017
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Toilets on A332 J class
Am I the only one in disbelief at how Qantas can get away with only one toilet for 28 business class pax + crew and pilots?
I fly a lot between Asia and Australia on QF and I find having to line up to use the bathroom inconvenient, especially when paying business class airfares.
On one SIN-MEL overnight flight, the J class bathroom was in continuous use by pax from 4am till landing at 10am. I now stress out at having to wake up early enough to freshen up before landing. Forget changing pajamas!
In the earlier 2-2-2 configuration, there were 36 seats but 2 toilets (18/pax). The A333 has 2 toilets for 28 pax (14/pax).
28 pax to one toilet must be the worst pax to toilet ratio amongst major airlines in J class. It's almost like they forgot to put one more toilet into the A332!!
Alas the new 787 config coming next year is only marginally better with 3 toilets for 70 J and PEY seats.
I now fly SQ when I can!
Is it too late for QF to do something about it? It's a shame since the new seats are brilliant.
I fly a lot between Asia and Australia on QF and I find having to line up to use the bathroom inconvenient, especially when paying business class airfares.
On one SIN-MEL overnight flight, the J class bathroom was in continuous use by pax from 4am till landing at 10am. I now stress out at having to wake up early enough to freshen up before landing. Forget changing pajamas!
In the earlier 2-2-2 configuration, there were 36 seats but 2 toilets (18/pax). The A333 has 2 toilets for 28 pax (14/pax).
28 pax to one toilet must be the worst pax to toilet ratio amongst major airlines in J class. It's almost like they forgot to put one more toilet into the A332!!
Alas the new 787 config coming next year is only marginally better with 3 toilets for 70 J and PEY seats.
I now fly SQ when I can!
Is it too late for QF to do something about it? It's a shame since the new seats are brilliant.
#3
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Sounds like you got the version also used on domestic flights.
I flew the International version last week and it has two toilets in J so works better.
However, I hate the seats, way too small and if you get the console between you and the aisle I feel quite claustrophobic. Two J round trips this year, to NRT and HKG from Australia and I know to pick my seats very carefully.
I flew the International version last week and it has two toilets in J so works better.
However, I hate the seats, way too small and if you get the console between you and the aisle I feel quite claustrophobic. Two J round trips this year, to NRT and HKG from Australia and I know to pick my seats very carefully.
#4
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Melbourne,Victoria,Australia
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The 332's (all of them) were obviously configured for domestic services and little or no thought was given to any possible international use; their increasing appearance on international routes is a pretty shabbly act by QF. The nasty plasticky seat upholstery on the J seats is another minus; it becomes quite hot and sticky after a while, unlike the cloth upholstery on the 333's.
#5
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The 332's (all of them) were obviously configured for domestic services and little or no thought was given to any possible international use; their increasing appearance on international routes is a pretty shabbly act by QF. The nasty plasticky seat upholstery on the J seats is another minus; it becomes quite hot and sticky after a while, unlike the cloth upholstery on the 333's.
And I'm also no fan of (fake) leather seats.
#6
Join Date: May 2003
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Have often wondered (when standing waiting for toilet) if airlines could temporarily (i.e. towards the end of the flight) set up a curtained off an area for changing. Not everyone needs the toilet. But probably too space constrained on the 330 anyway.
#8
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 5
Had the same thought on a recent flight, and it's correct that the 1x28 is domestic config. The crew explained there were lots of complaints.
Thankfully they setup changing areas next to door two at the beginning and end of the flight.
A neat thing about the A332 is that 7K has a privacy curtain which can be drawn when sleeping, almost like AF first!
Thankfully they setup changing areas next to door two at the beginning and end of the flight.
A neat thing about the A332 is that 7K has a privacy curtain which can be drawn when sleeping, almost like AF first!
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#10
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I agree that ratio is poor for the overnight flights back from Asia when the 332s are used on these routes.
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So although the Y ratio is much worse, practically it can be better.
#12
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Qantas are now industry innovators in cannibalising premium cabin toilets. When they do offer them, such as A380 F lavs, they are pathetic and fade in comparison to other first rate airlines. EK's J lavs are better than QF's F lavs!