bensyd

Me too. I usually take the morning flight out of SYD on CX get to HKG late afternoon, head into town to meet a few friends for beers and dinner, then head back to the airport well fed and lubricated, get on board watch a movie and go to sleep.

drpopper

It's ok but I agree it's looking very tired and hasn't aged well. By far the biggest issue for Qantas with me in long haul is the lack of WIFI it actually stops me flying with them more then any other issue.

Ausriver

So now in order to access the EK F lounge at DXB, one will have to be either flying F or have elite status with EK or QF. No more lounge for us OWEs....

LordBuckethead

Will this affect the QF/EK JV from a legislative point of view? In Europe airlines can only have JVs if they both serve the market concerned with their own metal (hence BA continues to DOH with pathetic loads and an inferior product to QR, simply to 'activate' the JV). If one carrier pulled out the arrangement would fall to a traditional codeshare deal instead, with no revenue share or anti-trust immunity. Does anything similar apply in Australia?

Ldnn1

So the short answer is no, not yes.

JohnK

Very good news.

Makes SYD-SIN-BKK in economy much more desirable than the direct SYD-BKK A330 service. Coming back from BKK early April 2018 and may hold off booking flights until everything is confirmed.

Andrew Yeates

Will be interesting to see if the Syd-Sin-LHR route or the Mel-Per-LHR routes will carry EK code shares....

Also I do hope the renewed focus on Sin persuades QF to up gauge Per-Sin from a 737 , currently a terrible experience

og

ISTR somewhere upthread that there will not be an EK code on the QF flights that overfly the ME ( happy to be corrected though! ).

Calchas

Indeed: the UAE's air service treaty with the UK does not permit UAE airlines (including EK) to put their codes on SIN-LHR.

Under the 1972 Treaty with the UAE, codeshares are only permitted where it would be permissible to run a real service (so it would require EK to have permission to fly SIN-LHR, which they don't).

The same restriction is retained in the 2014 treaty, which in my understanding while it has been signed it is not yet in force.

You will also see this in the travel agent guide that deeruck linked upthread.

Kiwi Flyer

I prefer it. Makes the arrival day easier to schedule and more productive, and if connecting onwards it provides more options than a later flight.

That said, where I live now has horrible connections at SYD for SYD-LHR and so if flying QF/EK I arrive in LHR later in the day. Alternatively I take other airlines which have schedules that accommodate early am arrival into LHR.

hansyuwiwb

No.
ACCC can approve any deal it wants and reject any deal it doesn't.

There aren't many airlines in Australia. Rules are made up as situations evolve .

Also from an AUS-GB perspective both carriers still have their own metal. Only the stopping point changes.

QF1/2 will only have EK code if purchased AUS-LHR. You will not be able to travel EK code SIN-LHR only (EK has no traffic right SIN-LHR).

solewalker

I just got an e-mail from QF, offering double Qantas points, and double Qantas status credits, in celebration of their return to SIN:

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Chalkie

QF F doesn't offer the bling of the ME carriers and isn't as grand as SQ Suites. But the bed IMO is the most comfortable in the sky, and the cabin temperature is usually kept at a cooler level than the ME carriers or CX.

Of the Oneworld carriers it is currently my preferred F cabin (only ahead of CX because CX doesn't offer F all the way to MEL).

Chalkie

All other things being equal, flight arrival times really are a personal preference. I agree entirely about the QF29/30 timings - a whole day here was more valuable for me than arriving at dawn in LHR. I think the so-called "optics" of the full day in London are important for some people. It's never been important for me and "optics" don't make any impression on me.

nocturne14

They will need to vastly upgrade their current lounge. The food options are very minimal and may have to resort pushing some passenger to the BA lounge especially in the early evening hours when it isn't used.