Jul 4, 2016, 6:56 am
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Qantas agents' notice:
http://www.qantas.com/agents/dyn/qf/info/201606/0621
http://www.qantas.com/agents/dyn/qf/policies/QantasBaggagePolicy?adobe_mc=MCMID%3D3289727584528 7147303720953966178302954%7CMCORGID%3D11B20CF953F3 626B0A490D44%2540AdobeOrg%7CTS%3D1490150651 QF Baggage policy
http://www.qantas.com/agents/dyn/qf/info/BookingGuidelinesInterlineBaggage#through-checked-baggage
http://www.qantas.com/agents/dyn/qf/info/201606/0621
http://www.qantas.com/agents/dyn/qf/policies/QantasBaggagePolicy?adobe_mc=MCMID%3D3289727584528 7147303720953966178302954%7CMCORGID%3D11B20CF953F3 626B0A490D44%2540AdobeOrg%7CTS%3D1490150651 QF Baggage policy
http://www.qantas.com/agents/dyn/qf/info/BookingGuidelinesInterlineBaggage#through-checked-baggage
QF- no checking of luggage separate itineraries from 1 Sep [2016 some exceptions]
Jun 15, 2016, 7:17 pm
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It avoids financial loss - when accepting baggage , the airline has liabillity should it fail to be delivered to the passenger at the destination , though with separate tickets, is getting none of the revenue
Jun 15, 2016, 7:31 pm
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If I get a travel agent to book an itinerary for me using various OW carriers on a single ticket isn't the same true?
Jun 15, 2016, 7:53 pm
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AA (currently) would accept that risk on separate PNRs but (my guess) QF still wouldn't through-check them at origin.
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Jun 15, 2016, 8:55 pm
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Doesn't explain why QF wouldn't through-check someone who is on QF-AA, AA-AA itineraries. AA - as the last carrier on the first PNR - is liable.
AA (currently) would accept that risk on separate PNRs but (my guess) QF still wouldn't through-check them at origin.
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AA (currently) would accept that risk on separate PNRs but (my guess) QF still wouldn't through-check them at origin.
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Originally Posted by Montreal Convention
3. As regards baggage or cargo, the passenger or consignor will have a right of action against the first carrier, and the passenger or consignee who is entitled to delivery will have a right of action against the last carrier, and further, each may take action against the carrier which performed the carriage during which the destruction, loss, damage or delay took place. These carriers will be jointly and severally liable to the passenger or to the consignor or consignee.
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Jun 15, 2016, 9:10 pm
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Prediction: (excluding BA)
At some point in the future, through checking (and IRROPs assistance) will be limited to a single airline group or to airlines where a joint venture agreement has been completed.
Baggage through tagging will be permitted on single PNRs but boarding passes will not be available.
End prediction of happy wandering
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At some point in the future, through checking (and IRROPs assistance) will be limited to a single airline group or to airlines where a joint venture agreement has been completed.
Baggage through tagging will be permitted on single PNRs but boarding passes will not be available.
End prediction of happy wandering
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Jun 15, 2016, 9:17 pm
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Jun 15, 2016, 9:20 pm
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But in my example QF has the same liability regardless of the second PNR being there or not. If I were to arrive at my final destination and my bags did not, I'd be talking to AA regardless of whether this was as a result of the bags not reaching the destination at the end of the first PNR or second.
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If QF checks the bags for its ticket and delivers them to the destination on that ticket , it has no liability onwards
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Jun 15, 2016, 10:13 pm
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If someone buys an BA ticket from SYD-CDG via LHR and then buys a cheap Qantas domestic flight to Sydney rather than pay for a through fare, why should Qantas be liable to the passenger if the bag fails to be delivered in Paris even though the delay/loss is nothing to do with Qantas and it delivered it to Sydney on time plus it is getting no revenue for the BA flight
I can't see how interlining costs an airline on a net basis.
Jun 15, 2016, 10:26 pm
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Jun 15, 2016, 10:28 pm
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Much is about automation. Easier to get systems to do automatic rebookings and so on during IRROPS when those systems know what else you're doing!
Besides which, they will interline - you just need to have it on a single PNR!
Besides which, they will interline - you just need to have it on a single PNR!
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Jun 16, 2016, 3:40 am
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because it all probably equals out in the end... there's probably a passenger buying a cheap BA fare to connect with a Qantas flight somewhere, with BA ending up liable for a bag it had little or nothing to do with.
Jun 16, 2016, 3:52 am
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If one or more airline wanted it, with this not being a published benefit , is an easy change to make and better for the alliance than an airline quitting
Jun 16, 2016, 5:27 am
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Will AA pay for any new tickets to get the pax all the way back to Australia?
Jun 16, 2016, 6:24 am
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AA would be under no liability to get the passenger to anywhere other than that specified on the ticket which the AA flight is on
By its own policy however, it will protect passengers connection between AA and OneWorld carriers ( at the moment )
By its own policy however, it will protect passengers connection between AA and OneWorld carriers ( at the moment )
Jun 16, 2016, 7:00 pm
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From the UK CAA website: If you are claiming for a lost or damaged bag when you have been on two or more different airlines on a journey, you can claim from any of the airlines, however it would usually be the final airline that would handle the claim so they are a good place to start.
Therefore, regardless I would go to AA in the first instance. If AA determine that QF lost or damaged my bag, I would expect AA to notify me of that and I would take it up with Qantas. This would be irrelevant to whether I'm travelling on the single or (if allowed) multiple itinerary.
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