Sep 8, 2016, 6:42 am
Last edit by: serfty
For access to the Qantas First Lounge at TBIT just one of the following needs to be true:
- Non US (not AAdvantage and not Mileage Plan) oneworld Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
- AAdvantage or Mileage Plan Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- First Class passengers departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- Passengers in First Class on a flight longer than five hours connecting§ to/from an international or domestic short haul (five hours or less) oneworld Marketed and Operated flight and not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- *Recent Reports Indicate Access via the following Criteria is being Denied with patrons being sent to the Flagship Lounge in T4*: .First Class passengers^ travelling on a three class transcontinental American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight on a designated route (e.g. between Los Angeles & New York).
§ Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day. Such Lounge access is based on the class of services of the long haul flight (First or Business) regardless of the class of travel on the short haul flight.
^ Regarding AA EXP in any cabin. This is a "Class of Service" based access, so status should not be relevant. Rules indicate NO ACCESS unless in First on 3 class transcon, but there had been some contradictory experiences about this. Early on EXP based access had sometimes been granted; not so much these days. Presumably this related to confusion about the rules on behalf of the agents.
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Lounge access rules
All non-AA and Non-AS Oneworld Emerald members have access to this lounge on any oneworld itinerary regardless of cabin or final destination.
AA EXP have access when traveling to all destinations outside North America and Mexico City. Includes if pax is flying LAX-DFW-LHR because you are flying internationally that day.
No Class of Service access for domestic F without non AA and non AS Emerald status unless on designated (generally 3-class) flights to JFK and MIA.
Passengers on any 3-cabin AA flight to JFK, BOS or MIA in First Class.
Emirates pax do not have access except for Qantas Platinum One. EDIT: Appears to be that Qantas removed that access criteria from their lounge access page so I wouldn't count on this working.
No access if connecting to a non-Oneworld airline or partner.
Separate tickets within oneworld do not matter other than it has to be same day . E.g. QF F to AA Y on the same day.
To walk from T4 to TBIT will take approximately 10 minutes one way so plan accordingly if visiting this lounge.
More detail here: Lounge Access | oneworld.com
Qantas.com Access Rules, with specific carve-out for transcon markets.
Los Angeles / LAX Qantas First Class Lounge [Master Thread]
Aug 19, 2017, 2:14 pm
#258
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I've just completed a full photo and written review of this excellent lounge in my report here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-...t-lounges.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-...t-lounges.html
Aug 21, 2017, 10:11 am
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FYI, not on the published breakfast menu, but just had some off the hook bacon as a side dish, accompanied by some rose champagne, of course.
Very quiet in the mornings. Maybe 10 people in around 9:00 AM.
Very quiet in the mornings. Maybe 10 people in around 9:00 AM.
Aug 26, 2017, 4:33 pm
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How late has this lounge been staying open lately? Officially I think it's 11:30PM, but a poster in another thread says it's sometimes later? It looks like the last Qantas flight is 11:20PM.
Aug 26, 2017, 8:17 pm
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Often QF16 is delayed and the lounge does stay open.
On any given day, keep your eye on QF12 JFK-LAX as this is generally the operating aircraft for QF16 to BNE.
On any given day, keep your eye on QF12 JFK-LAX as this is generally the operating aircraft for QF16 to BNE.
Sep 28, 2017, 10:24 pm
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Saturday I'm flying LAX to JFK in J. Am OW Emerald via EXP. Last time I tried to get in flying J on the LAX-MIA flight I was denied and sent to the Business Class lounge but have been in 2 times before on flying to MIA.
Fingers crossed for Sat! I love this lounge. Looks like people have had better luck of late getting in while on the JFK flight
Fingers crossed for Sat! I love this lounge. Looks like people have had better luck of late getting in while on the JFK flight
Sep 30, 2017, 1:07 pm
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Saturday I'm flying LAX to JFK in J. Am OW Emerald via EXP. Last time I tried to get in flying J on the LAX-MIA flight I was denied and sent to the Business Class lounge but have been in 2 times before on flying to MIA.
Fingers crossed for Sat! I love this lounge. Looks like people have had better luck of late getting in while on the JFK flight
Fingers crossed for Sat! I love this lounge. Looks like people have had better luck of late getting in while on the JFK flight
well I was denied and sent to the business lounge. Same guy as last time who denied LAX to MIA in J
EXP in J to JFK today
Sep 30, 2017, 3:23 pm
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The access conditions now seem to have some uniformity regarding access to LAX 1st Lounge:
AA:American Airlines AAdvantage® members, regardless of their tier status or class of travel, are not eligible for lounge access when travelling solely on North American flights within or between the U.S., Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean.
QF: AAdvantage Executive Platinum and Platinum members regardless of Emerald or Sapphire status are not eligible for lounge access when travelling on American Airlines operated flights solely within the United States or between the United States and the Caribbean, Canada, or Mexico (except Mexico City).
AA:American Airlines AAdvantage® members, regardless of their tier status or class of travel, are not eligible for lounge access when travelling solely on North American flights within or between the U.S., Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean.
QF: AAdvantage Executive Platinum and Platinum members regardless of Emerald or Sapphire status are not eligible for lounge access when travelling on American Airlines operated flights solely within the United States or between the United States and the Caribbean, Canada, or Mexico (except Mexico City).
Sep 30, 2017, 6:12 pm
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By those terms, an EXP travelling to JFK from LAX on AA would need to be in First Class on a three class flight (& otherwise not on an "international Itinerary") to get access to the Qantas First Lounge.
i.e. The access as written for such flights is Class of Service based. There is no status based access published for for AA elites on these flights.
Oct 1, 2017, 6:35 pm
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It seems to me that access to the InternationalFirst Class Lounge is now denied to all AAdvantage members regardless of their level and regardless of class of travel if on an itinerary within the US (i.e. domestictravel). I suppose this is to limit such passengers to Admirals Club or Flagship lounges.
One world now offers a choice of Qantas International First Lounge and American Airlines International First Lounge (described as being in T4) in the dropdown menu.
One world now offers a choice of Qantas International First Lounge and American Airlines International First Lounge (described as being in T4) in the dropdown menu.
Last edited by Granlor; Oct 1, 2017 at 7:09 pm
Oct 2, 2017, 3:50 am
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I don't think it's denied - it just less advertised.
e.g. Try finding reference on Qantas.com to F and J PAX arriving on QF flights from DXB/SYD/MEL having access to the AA T3 arrivals lounge (they do).
e.g. Try finding reference on Qantas.com to F and J PAX arriving on QF flights from DXB/SYD/MEL having access to the AA T3 arrivals lounge (they do).