Qantas Tightens Lounge Access Rules for Emirates Passengers
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Qantas Tightens Lounge Access Rules for Emirates Passengers
When flying in economy on an Emirates flight number, Qantas Club cardholders won't be able to use Qantas international business lounges. Cardholders also won't be able to use Emirates' Dubai lounges unless their ticket has a QF flight number.
Statused members of Qantas' FF program won't be affected. Only flyers who paid for yearly Qantas Club access will notice the change.
The changes are set to take effect on October 1.
http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-tight...irates-flights
The new restriction also applies to the American Airlines' Admirals Club lounge in London for Qantas Club members travelling on an Emirates flight number.
The changes are set to take effect on October 1.
http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-tight...irates-flights
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From qantas.com.au:
Changes to Qantas Club access when flying Emirates
To enjoy access to domestic and international lounges for travel from 1 October 2014, you need to have a QF or JQ flight number on your ticket for your onward flight. As with all our other airline partners, this change means that as a Qantas Club member you need to book a QF flight number to access Qantas and Partner lounges when travelling in Economy on Emirates.
Choose Qantas to enjoy the lounge
Qantas (QF) flight numbers are available on all Emirates flights to and from Australia and New Zealand, the majority of destinations between Dubai, Europe and the Middle East, as well as key destinations in Africa. So, to make the most of your membership and enjoy lounge access before you fly, simply book the QF flight number.
Qantas Club members will continue to be able to access the Qantas Club lounges when their next onward flight on that day is on a Qantas or Jetstar flight number.
To enjoy access to domestic and international lounges for travel from 1 October 2014, you need to have a QF or JQ flight number on your ticket for your onward flight. As with all our other airline partners, this change means that as a Qantas Club member you need to book a QF flight number to access Qantas and Partner lounges when travelling in Economy on Emirates.
Choose Qantas to enjoy the lounge
Qantas (QF) flight numbers are available on all Emirates flights to and from Australia and New Zealand, the majority of destinations between Dubai, Europe and the Middle East, as well as key destinations in Africa. So, to make the most of your membership and enjoy lounge access before you fly, simply book the QF flight number.
Qantas Club members will continue to be able to access the Qantas Club lounges when their next onward flight on that day is on a Qantas or Jetstar flight number.
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I suspect its more that if a pax books the EK code then QF gets no revenue, EK might pay QF a small amount for the points earn, but then will charge QF for lounge access.
Whereas if booked under the QF codeshare, I presume that QF gets a portion of the fare charged, which offests the lounge access charge.
QF wants people flying on its codeshares. For elites this is generally done by the chase of Status Credits, for regular Qantas Club members they now have this method as well.
Whereas if booked under the QF codeshare, I presume that QF gets a portion of the fare charged, which offests the lounge access charge.
QF wants people flying on its codeshares. For elites this is generally done by the chase of Status Credits, for regular Qantas Club members they now have this method as well.
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Fair enough, but on not a single one of the international bookings I have made in the last year has QF been close to competitive in price. Status is nice, but I'll keep the extra cash (and the points are definitely no longer worth the chase).
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According to the QF page, EK Golds can still use the QC but if not, I'll make sure to book the EK-operated flights and use the EK lounge.
I think QF shot themselves in the foot with this arrangement, but I'm quite enjoying EK.
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Given that there is not change to status based lounge access , I doubt that there will be any change for holders of Gold status with EK
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What the deal did was to allow QF elites to actually now try out EK without having to worry about status and points. And Qantas is now starting to realise that they have just fed EK with their best customers.
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Those with status ( there's nothing elitist about flying a lot on Qantas ) who were blinkered by FF points indeed now may have had their eyes opened
This change only affects those who have a purchased lounge access membership to a club which does a poor job at providing value. c.f. US lounge membership programmes which provide for lounge access for paying members at any time. Further reducing value of Qantas Club membership seems another great way to encourage non-renewing
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At the outset of this "joint arrangement" I noted to both airlines that the EK Lounges left the leprechaun's mob in the shade, at the 'up to First Level', and the difference between EK and QF Business was debatable/on the day, so to speak. QF has the edge in the blunter section of the airframe with its' Y+, and marginally in Y due to its' less 'bums across'.
As I've commented on a couple of other threads, QF really has dropped it's standards over the last ten years or so ...
As I've commented on a couple of other threads, QF really has dropped it's standards over the last ten years or so ...
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I think you will find that EK started this round of lockouts. I was denied EK lounge access in Melbourne last week because I had a QF tircket and it would not scan, while in the QF lounge they were still announcing EK flights suggesting EK passengers were still welcome.
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I think you will find that EK started this round of lockouts. I was denied EK lounge access in Melbourne last week because I had a QF tircket and it would not scan, while in the QF lounge they were still announcing EK flights suggesting EK passengers were still welcome.
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Early in the "partnership" I had problems at the EK Business lounge in DXB as a paid QC member (EK-marketed and operated flights in Y). The first time they told me that using QC for access only applied if I had a QF-marketed flight. An appeal to a supervisor fixed that. The second time they told me I had to have a QF FF number on my BP to use QC for access. I had to let them change the FF from EK to QF to let me into the lounge (where I immediately changed it back.)
Whether these were due to teething problems or an unofficial policy to make it harder for QC members to use the lounge, I don't know or, frankly, care.
On what basis were you trying to use the EK lounge? Business or First class ticket? QF Gold? EK Gold? QC paid membership?
Not really surprising. First, the changes announced in the OP don't take effect until October 1. Second, EK passengers who are EK Gold, EK Platinum or flying business or first will still be "welcome"* after 1 October; it's only paid QC members flying Y who will not.
*I haven't ever found the attitude "welcoming" but that's another thread.
Whether these were due to teething problems or an unofficial policy to make it harder for QC members to use the lounge, I don't know or, frankly, care.
*I haven't ever found the attitude "welcoming" but that's another thread.
Last edited by RadioGirl; Jul 31, 2014 at 10:31 pm