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(Business)SkyTeam: JFK-FRA $1823+ ai r/t; through EOS

(Business)SkyTeam: JFK-FRA $1823+ ai r/t; through EOS

Old Aug 15, 2017, 9:13 pm
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(Business)SkyTeam: JFK-FRA $1823+ ai r/t; through EOS

Slightly different teams for this vs. the PRG deal.
  • Depart: Mon Tue Wed only
  • Return: Mon Tue Wed Thu only
  • Sat night minimum stay
  • No stopover allowed
  • 50-day adv. purchase
  • Purchase by 07-Sep
Sample date: May 16-28
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Old Aug 16, 2017, 12:47 pm
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Looks like this is bookable for $1824 via Delta, KLM or AF. Is there an advantage to booking through KLM or AF when it comes to MQD accrual?
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Old Aug 16, 2017, 1:08 pm
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Originally Posted by VisaW
Looks like this is bookable for $1824 via Delta, KLM or AF. Is there an advantage to booking through KLM or AF when it comes to MQD accrual?
As one that flies TATL in J frequently, I still am not certain on this. I think that you'll do best with AF ticketed/AF flight numbers but I may be entirely wrong here. Maybe someone else with more knowledge can chime in and help us both.
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Old Aug 16, 2017, 2:45 pm
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Originally Posted by VisaW
Looks like this is bookable for $1824 via Delta, KLM or AF. Is there an advantage to booking through KLM or AF when it comes to MQD accrual?
For MQD, AF ticket will earn based on distance while KLM ticket earns based on fare
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Old Aug 16, 2017, 3:08 pm
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Originally Posted by island82
For MQD, AF ticket will earn based on distance while KLM ticket earns based on fare
Even without status, it will almost certainly be better off to have this booked on AF stock (keeping in mind that Delta flights of all stripes will earn based on ticket price). Assuming it books into Z, that means 25% of distance goes to MQD, which for a one way CDG-JFK is $908. Depending what class the intra Europe flights book into, it could net up to 35% of distance flown at 280 miles = $98. RDM will be excellent as it is a business fare + any medallion bonus. RT = 2k+ MQD, although I'm sure someone can get creative and route JFK-CDG-AMS-FRA or similar for more MQDs/RDMs....
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Old Aug 16, 2017, 3:13 pm
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Originally Posted by island82
For MQD, AF ticket will earn based on distance while KLM ticket earns based on fare
Originally Posted by AviationFreak
Even without status, it will almost certainly be better off to have this booked on AF stock (keeping in mind that Delta flights of all stripes will earn based on ticket price).
Brilliant, thanks gents.
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Old Aug 16, 2017, 3:17 pm
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The $1823 price I think is only good on the non-stop. Transfers will add a couple of dozen bucks, but ultimately worth it.

Intra-european legs on AF/KL (but not DL or AZ coded) almost always book straight into J for extra earnings. I have not checked this one but that's what I've found in the past. DL metal and AF/KL coded intra-US legs also often book into J.

Routing is restricted by MPM, but I haven't calculated out what it is. There is probably a way to book through DTW but not sure about MSP or ATL.

Originally Posted by island82
For MQD, AF ticket will earn based on distance while KLM ticket earns based on fare
I think that only KL- or DL-coded segments on a KL ticket will be based on fare.
For an AF-coded segment on a KL-ticket, MQD should be based on distance.

The rules are confusing, but that is how I read it. The charts on the SkyMiles earning page distance are based on marketing carrier, not ticketing carrier.

Though I agree that it's better the book at airfrance.us if at all possible. My most recent ticket I had to purchase at klm.com because I couldn't get my itin to price on airfrance.us. But I chose AF flight numbers wherever I could.

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Old Aug 16, 2017, 8:10 pm
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Originally Posted by 18sas
The $1823 price I think is only good on the non-stop. Transfers will add a couple of dozen bucks, but ultimately worth it.

Intra-european legs on AF/KL (but not DL or AZ coded) almost always book straight into J for extra earnings. I have not checked this one but that's what I've found in the past. DL metal and AF/KL coded intra-US legs also often book into J.

Routing is restricted by MPM, but I haven't calculated out what it is. There is probably a way to book through DTW but not sure about MSP or ATL.


I think that only KL- or DL-coded segments on a KL ticket will be based on fare.
For an AF-coded segment on a KL-ticket, MQD should be based on distance.

The rules are confusing, but that is how I read it. The charts on the SkyMiles earning page distance are based on marketing carrier, not ticketing carrier.

Though I agree that it's better the book at airfrance.us if at all possible. My most recent ticket I had to purchase at klm.com because I couldn't get my itin to price on airfrance.us. But I chose AF flight numbers wherever I could.
I agree, the earning rules for KLM tickets are not straight forward and from my experience, I have not been able to get KL tickets with AF coded flights. AF tickets with KL coded flights come up often, in fact I just completed one.

Yes, Intra EU books into J in my experience as well.
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Old Aug 17, 2017, 4:36 pm
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Wow

Wow, this is good through June of 2018! Spring in Germany, folks! Woo hoo! Who cares about how many MQMS you get. This is a killer fare regardless. I can get a quick non-stop R/T on Delta from CLT to JFK for $150. That flight is easy to get medallion free upgrades on. Full first/Biz from clt to Germany for less than $2K? Sold!

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Old Aug 17, 2017, 5:53 pm
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Here's hoping OW matches.
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Old Aug 20, 2017, 4:28 pm
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Just snagged this fare for around $1800, inbound to FRA, outbound from ZRH. Transatlantic legs book into Z class, European ones into J class.

Booked on AF and credited to DL -- if I have my calculations right I should come out a few hundred bucks ahead on MQDs, but nothing major.
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Old Aug 21, 2017, 5:37 am
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OW has matched -- AA $1747 US, BA $1700 US

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Here's hoping OW matches.
Looks like your wish came true - if you're willing to leave from other NYC airports. The BA fare seems to come out as the cheapest once one applies the AARP and VISA discounts.

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Old Aug 21, 2017, 1:25 pm
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Needed to be in Zurich for Thanksgiving and had a $600 voucher to burn - thanks for the find OP! Ended up with JFK-ZUR for $1800 before the voucher.
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