CAI-USA-EZE-USA-CAI J ~2000-2400 4.3cpm AA/BA
May 22, 2017, 7:50 pm
#16
Join Date: Jan 1999
Posts: 1,023
This goes *way* beyond SSSS. I mean having well spoken men in suits waiting for a quick chat before boarding your AA flight at LHR, asking about your political views (with a focus about places like Syria and Yemen). In addition to the the secondary interviews at both US entry points.
Just a data point from my experience doing a same day PTY turnaround last year, I was asked why I left the US and arrived back the same day. Told the truth and explained what a mileage run was. Officer laughed and waived me on.
Given the general situation with the ME at the moment, it might not be so easy to explain?
May 23, 2017, 4:16 am
#17
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 35
I will have to agree. Did AZ routing from CAI-YYZ, and return via JFK. Global Entry was X, and had to have a quick chat with CBP at pre-clearance regarding my travel.
Overall wasn't too bad. But a bit unnerving. Also, have SSSS for the past month or two as well.
Can't wait for this to blow over or will apply for redress eventually. I would NOT recommend CAI fares to USA for the savings.
Overall wasn't too bad. But a bit unnerving. Also, have SSSS for the past month or two as well.
Can't wait for this to blow over or will apply for redress eventually. I would NOT recommend CAI fares to USA for the savings.
May 23, 2017, 4:54 am
#18
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: TUS, SEA, OTP, OMR
Posts: 868
Another data point: I've traveled this several times, but always careful to break the routing between carriers or airports in Europe (e.g. CAI BA xLHR//LGW BA JFK or CAI AZ xFCO AA PHL). If you arrive in the US and the global entry computer shows you coming from Europe, there's never any interviews (this is also why I break tickets form Turkey through Europe as well).
May 23, 2017, 6:33 am
#19
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CLE
Programs: AA Exec Plat, Hilton Diamond, Hertz PC
Posts: 5,538
Another data point: I've traveled this several times, but always careful to break the routing between carriers or airports in Europe (e.g. CAI BA xLHR//LGW BA JFK or CAI AZ xFCO AA PHL). If you arrive in the US and the global entry computer shows you coming from Europe, there's never any interviews (this is also why I break tickets form Turkey through Europe as well).
May 23, 2017, 9:05 am
#21
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: SFO
Programs: AY Plat, LH FTL
Posts: 7,372
That said, after taking advantage of a discounted award from SAW to the US, and enduring SSSS for a few months afterwards even with pre-check and global entry, I would think twice about starting an ex-CAI itin.
May 23, 2017, 11:33 am
#22
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CLE
Programs: AA Exec Plat, Hilton Diamond, Hertz PC
Posts: 5,538
I can't think of a single good reason to lie about being on a mileage run. You have the right to travel and have nothing to hide.
That said, after taking advantage of a discounted award from SAW to the US, and enduring SSSS for a few months afterwards even with pre-check and global entry, I would think twice about starting an ex-CAI itin.
That said, after taking advantage of a discounted award from SAW to the US, and enduring SSSS for a few months afterwards even with pre-check and global entry, I would think twice about starting an ex-CAI itin.
What is the longest delay you've had?
May 23, 2017, 12:33 pm
#23
Join Date: Mar 2003
Programs: BA GGL; AA LT Gold; AS 100K; DL MM GM; Hyatt G*list, Hilton Diamond; SQ silver
Posts: 3,806
Another data point: I've traveled this several times, but always careful to break the routing between carriers or airports in Europe (e.g. CAI BA xLHR//LGW BA JFK or CAI AZ xFCO AA PHL). If you arrive in the US and the global entry computer shows you coming from Europe, there's never any interviews (this is also why I break tickets form Turkey through Europe as well).
It would be silly of CBP if they never interviewed someone with GE coming from Europe. Part of the tools of any agency dealing with security is a certain level of unpredictability.
May 23, 2017, 3:21 pm
#24
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: SFO
Programs: AY Plat, LH FTL
Posts: 7,372
Maybe an extra 5-10 minutes, but having been spoiled with pre-check in the past, it's just a hassle I'd rather avoid.
May 25, 2017, 12:29 pm
#27
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: LAX
Programs: AA Exp Plat / Marriott Titanium/ Hyatt Globalist/ Delta Diamond Medallion
Posts: 73
https://www.google.com/flights/?gl=u...c=b;a=ONEWORLD
Pretty crazy fare. Id love to do it if I had the time to get to CAI. Im based in LAX and don't have that much time..
Pretty crazy fare. Id love to do it if I had the time to get to CAI. Im based in LAX and don't have that much time..
May 25, 2017, 3:06 pm
#28
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: London. Or a plane.
Programs: "Only" 50,000 TPs until BA GGLfL
Posts: 2,774
Without wanting to go too much OT, do you let them know you are doing a mileage run? I'm not sure if that would make the situation worse or not.
Just a data point from my experience doing a same day PTY turnaround last year, I was asked why I left the US and arrived back the same day. Told the truth and explained what a mileage run was. Officer laughed and waived me on.
Given the general situation with the ME at the moment, it might not be so easy to explain?
Just a data point from my experience doing a same day PTY turnaround last year, I was asked why I left the US and arrived back the same day. Told the truth and explained what a mileage run was. Officer laughed and waived me on.
Given the general situation with the ME at the moment, it might not be so easy to explain?
Bottom line: ex-CAI on AA is not for everyone.
Jun 12, 2017, 5:36 pm
#29
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 8,937
I've got some itineraries next month that might look weird. I'll fly xxx-AUH-CAI on an AA award PNR, then CAI-DOH (if it's operating) on a revenue ex-CAI RTW, then DOH-AUH-U.S. (if DOH-AUH is operating) on another AA award PNR. I'm hoping I won't get secondary at Immigration/Customs, nor SSSS at security for my AUH pre-clearance.
Jun 14, 2017, 1:08 am
#30
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: BA GGL, A3*G, Mucci de l'expertise des Apps
Posts: 3,364
On a routing like that I think there is little chance of your hoped for outcome being true. I did CAI-DOH-LHR-JFK and got the works as I detailed in one of the other ex-CAI threads.