MF: JFK-PEK US$1,152 rt
Apr 2, 2017, 7:46 pm
#1
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MF: JFK-PEK US$1,152 rt
Round trip flights from JFK to PEK for just $1,152 on Xiamen. Didn't check credits, but at this price, who cares?
Available sporadically in april and May.
https://www.google.com/flights/#flt=/m/02_286.PEK,PVG,ICN,HND,NRT.2017-05-01.JFKFOC0MF850~FOCPEK1MF8167*PEK,PVG,ICN,HND,NRT./m/02_286.2017-05-05.PEKFOC0MF8120~FOCJFK1MF849;c:USD;e:1;sc:b;sd:1; t:f;sp:.USD.115146*.USD.115146
Available sporadically in april and May.
https://www.google.com/flights/#flt=/m/02_286.PEK,PVG,ICN,HND,NRT.2017-05-01.JFKFOC0MF850~FOCPEK1MF8167*PEK,PVG,ICN,HND,NRT./m/02_286.2017-05-05.PEKFOC0MF8120~FOCJFK1MF849;c:USD;e:1;sc:b;sd:1; t:f;sp:.USD.115146*.USD.115146
Apr 2, 2017, 8:05 pm
#2
Join Date: Oct 2014
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Posts: 36
I think Google Flights have been drunk for a while. I searched your dates and some other dates from April to May and saw $1152 and clicked out to Orbitz and MF websites--nowhere near $1152.
I was searching LAX/LHR from May to June and saw VS Upper Class for $1200 r/t on Google Flights but VS site showed $4000+
Google Flights, go home. Your are drunk.
I was searching LAX/LHR from May to June and saw VS Upper Class for $1200 r/t on Google Flights but VS site showed $4000+
Google Flights, go home. Your are drunk.
Apr 2, 2017, 8:23 pm
#5
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Yeah I think Google Flights has been drinking. I came across a few of these ultra cheap Xiamen fares, even a JFK-Taipei one that was under $1000 on GF, but when you try to price it out anywhere it jumped up over $3K.
If you try to price out the exact flights in the original post, it prices out around 22K Yuan so a bit over $3K USD.
Really wish it would price out too because I'd be really interested in giving them a try. Seems like a fairly decent business product and solid earning on Delta.
If you try to price out the exact flights in the original post, it prices out around 22K Yuan so a bit over $3K USD.
Really wish it would price out too because I'd be really interested in giving them a try. Seems like a fairly decent business product and solid earning on Delta.
Apr 2, 2017, 8:27 pm
#6
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Hint, the fare breaks in FOC. You've burried the lede...
#whyGoogleFlightsIsWorthless
It may have been a fare mistake, looks corrected. But I saw evidence it was bookable at one point...
The real deal was actually JFK-FOC-JFK for $694 all in ;-) OP had posted two separate fares with a break in FOC
#whyGoogleFlightsIsWorthless
It may have been a fare mistake, looks corrected. But I saw evidence it was bookable at one point...
The real deal was actually JFK-FOC-JFK for $694 all in ;-) OP had posted two separate fares with a break in FOC
Last edited by stephem; Apr 2, 2017 at 8:35 pm
Apr 2, 2017, 8:41 pm
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There was a fare, $160 each way, fare basis Z2MSPUSA JFKFOC. Never pulled up on EF but it was there. Was valid only for April 10-May 1.
Maybe an error, maybe dumping inventory for a flight that just started? Damn good price.
Maybe an error, maybe dumping inventory for a flight that just started? Damn good price.
Code:
Fare rules & restrictions
Xiamen (MF) Z2MSPUSA NYC to FOC
General notes
REGULAR EXCURSION FARES Z
Between AREA 1 and AREA 3 APPLIES FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
Category 4: Flight restrictions
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
MF FLIGHTS 8000 THROUGH 8999 OPERATED BY MF
MF FLIGHTS 381 THROUGH 382 OPERATED BY MF
MF FLIGHTS 800 THROUGH 899 OPERATED BY MF.
Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS AND TICKETING MUST BE
COMPLETED AT THE SAME TIME.
Category 7: Maximum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 2
MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Category 8: Stopover restrictions
UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
LIMITED TO 4 FREE AND UNLIMITED AT CNY 100 EACH.
2 FREE IN EACH DIRECTION
UNLIMITED EITHER OUT/IN AT CNY 100 EACH.
A STOPOVER MAY NOT EXCEED 48 HOURS.
Category 10: Combinability
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH MF FARES.
VALIDATE ADJACENT LINE OF FLIGHT FARE COMPONENTS ONLY.
SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH MF
FARES
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
THE MILEAGE FOR AN INTERNATIONAL OPEN SEGMENT IS EQUAL
TO OR LESS THAN THE MILEAGE FOR THE SHORTEST FLOWN FARE
COMPONENT. THERE IS NO MILEAGE RESTRICTION ON AN OPEN
SEGMENT WITHIN ONE COUNTRY.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY Z- TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER MF
FROM/TO XMN
OR FOR CARRIER MF FROM/TO FOC
OR FOR CARRIER MF FROM/TO JJN IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF.
ROUND TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH MF
FARES
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY Z- TYPE FARES IN ANY RULE AND
TARIFF.
CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH MF
FARES
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD FARES.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY Z- TYPE FARES IN ANY RULE AND
TARIFF.
Category 12: Surcharges
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL.
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN RUSSIA.
A SURCHARGE OF CNY 200 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE
FARE FOR TRAVEL.
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN CHINA.
ORIGINATING CHINA -
A SURCHARGE OF USD 30.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE
APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL.
Category 14: Travel restrictions
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING FROM THE JOURNEY ORIGIN ON/
AFTER 10APR 17 AND ON/BEFORE 01MAY 17.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 01MAY 17.
NOTE -
2017-ITB-134
Category 15: Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON MF.
Category 16: Penalties
CHANGES
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE -
/////////FOR CHANGE/////////
---------------
1.CHANGES NOT PERMITTED.
---------------
2.CHANGE RULES APPLY BY JOURNEY
-2.1.CHANGES MUST APPLY THE MOST RESTRICTIVE RULE
WITHIN THE JOURNEY.
-2.2.APPLY THE HIGHEST CHANGE FEE OF ALL CHANGED
SECTORS WITHIN THE JOURNEY PER TRANSACTION.
////////////////////////////
CANCELLATIONS
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL/REFUND.
NOTE -
/////////FOR CANCELLATIONS/REFUNDS/////////
---------------
1.VOLUNTORY REFUND NOT PERMITTED.
---------------
2.REFUND RULES APPLY BY JOURNEY
-2.1.REFUNDS MUST APPLY THE MOST RESTRICTIVE RULE
WITHIN THE JOURNEY.
-2.2.APPLY THE HIGHEST REFUND FEE OF ALL REFUNDED
SECTORS WITHIN THE JOURNEY PER TRANSACTION.
---------------
4.FUEL SURCHARGE FOR VOLUNTARY REFUND
-UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED FUEL SURCHARGES ARE
REFUNDABLE.
---------------
6.OTHER PROVISIONS OF VOLUNTORY REFUNDS
-6.2.THE TICKET WILL NOT BE HONORED IF ALL THE
COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN SEQUENTIAL ORDER PROVIDED
IN THE TICKET WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED.OTHERWISE ONLY
TAX/TFCS/FUEL SURCHARGE OF UNUSED COUPONS ARE
PERMITTED TO BE REFUNDED ACCORDING TO THE FARE
RULE.
-6.3.TFCS INCLUDE TAX/FEE/CHARGE IMPOSED BY
GOVERMENT OR OTHER AUTHORITY. OR BY THE OPERATOR
OF AN AIRPORT.IN RESPECT OF A PASSENGER OR THE
USE BY A PASSENGER OF ANY SERVICES OF FACILITIES
WILL BE IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLISHED FARE AND
CHARGES AND SHALL BE PAYABLE BY THE PASSENGER.
---------------
///////////////////////////////////////////
Category 18: Endorsements
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -
Q/NON-END - AND - Q/FARE RESTRICTIONS APPLY - IN THE
ENDORSEMENT BOX.
Category 19: Discounts
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT
BY ADULT 18 OR OLDER.
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL FROM/TO/VIA SIN
UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE
PLUS SGD 25.00.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - UM.
NOTE -
THE STANDARD SERVICE FEE SGD25 MUST BE
COLLECTED FOR EACH DIRECTION FOR EACH
UNACCOMPANIED CHILD FROM/TO SINGAPORE.
UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - UM.
INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 18 OR OLDER.
INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 18 OR OLDER.
Category 22: Other Discounts
SEAMAN. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - SEA
OR - STUDENT. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - STU
OR - LABORER/WORKER. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - LBR.
Last edited by stephem; Apr 2, 2017 at 8:47 pm
Apr 2, 2017, 9:50 pm
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There was a fare, $160 each way, fare basis Z2MSPUSA JFKFOC. Never pulled up on EF but it was there. Was valid only for April 10-May 1.
Maybe an error, maybe dumping inventory for a flight that just started? Damn good price.
Maybe an error, maybe dumping inventory for a flight that just started? Damn good price.
Code:
Fare rules & restrictions
Xiamen (MF) Z2MSPUSA NYC to FOC
General notes
REGULAR EXCURSION FARES Z
Between AREA 1 and AREA 3 APPLIES FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
Category 4: Flight restrictions
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
MF FLIGHTS 8000 THROUGH 8999 OPERATED BY MF
MF FLIGHTS 381 THROUGH 382 OPERATED BY MF
MF FLIGHTS 800 THROUGH 899 OPERATED BY MF.
Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS AND TICKETING MUST BE
COMPLETED AT THE SAME TIME.
Category 7: Maximum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 2
MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Category 8: Stopover restrictions
UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
LIMITED TO 4 FREE AND UNLIMITED AT CNY 100 EACH.
2 FREE IN EACH DIRECTION
UNLIMITED EITHER OUT/IN AT CNY 100 EACH.
A STOPOVER MAY NOT EXCEED 48 HOURS.
Category 10: Combinability
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH MF FARES.
VALIDATE ADJACENT LINE OF FLIGHT FARE COMPONENTS ONLY.
SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH MF
FARES
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
THE MILEAGE FOR AN INTERNATIONAL OPEN SEGMENT IS EQUAL
TO OR LESS THAN THE MILEAGE FOR THE SHORTEST FLOWN FARE
COMPONENT. THERE IS NO MILEAGE RESTRICTION ON AN OPEN
SEGMENT WITHIN ONE COUNTRY.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY Z- TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER MF
FROM/TO XMN
OR FOR CARRIER MF FROM/TO FOC
OR FOR CARRIER MF FROM/TO JJN IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF.
ROUND TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH MF
FARES
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY Z- TYPE FARES IN ANY RULE AND
TARIFF.
CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH MF
FARES
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD FARES.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY Z- TYPE FARES IN ANY RULE AND
TARIFF.
Category 12: Surcharges
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL.
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN RUSSIA.
A SURCHARGE OF CNY 200 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE
FARE FOR TRAVEL.
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN CHINA.
ORIGINATING CHINA -
A SURCHARGE OF USD 30.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE
APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL.
Category 14: Travel restrictions
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING FROM THE JOURNEY ORIGIN ON/
AFTER 10APR 17 AND ON/BEFORE 01MAY 17.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 01MAY 17.
NOTE -
2017-ITB-134
Category 15: Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON MF.
Category 16: Penalties
CHANGES
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE -
/////////FOR CHANGE/////////
---------------
1.CHANGES NOT PERMITTED.
---------------
2.CHANGE RULES APPLY BY JOURNEY
-2.1.CHANGES MUST APPLY THE MOST RESTRICTIVE RULE
WITHIN THE JOURNEY.
-2.2.APPLY THE HIGHEST CHANGE FEE OF ALL CHANGED
SECTORS WITHIN THE JOURNEY PER TRANSACTION.
////////////////////////////
CANCELLATIONS
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL/REFUND.
NOTE -
/////////FOR CANCELLATIONS/REFUNDS/////////
---------------
1.VOLUNTORY REFUND NOT PERMITTED.
---------------
2.REFUND RULES APPLY BY JOURNEY
-2.1.REFUNDS MUST APPLY THE MOST RESTRICTIVE RULE
WITHIN THE JOURNEY.
-2.2.APPLY THE HIGHEST REFUND FEE OF ALL REFUNDED
SECTORS WITHIN THE JOURNEY PER TRANSACTION.
---------------
4.FUEL SURCHARGE FOR VOLUNTARY REFUND
-UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED FUEL SURCHARGES ARE
REFUNDABLE.
---------------
6.OTHER PROVISIONS OF VOLUNTORY REFUNDS
-6.2.THE TICKET WILL NOT BE HONORED IF ALL THE
COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN SEQUENTIAL ORDER PROVIDED
IN THE TICKET WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED.OTHERWISE ONLY
TAX/TFCS/FUEL SURCHARGE OF UNUSED COUPONS ARE
PERMITTED TO BE REFUNDED ACCORDING TO THE FARE
RULE.
-6.3.TFCS INCLUDE TAX/FEE/CHARGE IMPOSED BY
GOVERMENT OR OTHER AUTHORITY. OR BY THE OPERATOR
OF AN AIRPORT.IN RESPECT OF A PASSENGER OR THE
USE BY A PASSENGER OF ANY SERVICES OF FACILITIES
WILL BE IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLISHED FARE AND
CHARGES AND SHALL BE PAYABLE BY THE PASSENGER.
---------------
///////////////////////////////////////////
Category 18: Endorsements
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -
Q/NON-END - AND - Q/FARE RESTRICTIONS APPLY - IN THE
ENDORSEMENT BOX.
Category 19: Discounts
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT
BY ADULT 18 OR OLDER.
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL FROM/TO/VIA SIN
UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE
PLUS SGD 25.00.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - UM.
NOTE -
THE STANDARD SERVICE FEE SGD25 MUST BE
COLLECTED FOR EACH DIRECTION FOR EACH
UNACCOMPANIED CHILD FROM/TO SINGAPORE.
UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - UM.
INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 18 OR OLDER.
INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 18 OR OLDER.
Category 22: Other Discounts
SEAMAN. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - SEA
OR - STUDENT. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - STU
OR - LABORER/WORKER. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - LBR.
Apr 3, 2017, 6:46 am
#9
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Posts: 36
MF is a subsidiary of CZ. You can credit miles to all 20 SkyTeam carriers but every carrier credits different %. Unless it's a super deeply discounted economy fare and no milage given by MF, then no milage to credit to any SkyTeam carrier.
Apr 5, 2017, 6:44 am
#10
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Sorry did I miss where the OP said this was a business class fare? Is there some nomenclature or acronym I am missing?
The wording makes me think it must be a premium seat (this is not an amazing fare in Y), but I don't see where it is stated.
The wording makes me think it must be a premium seat (this is not an amazing fare in Y), but I don't see where it is stated.
Apr 6, 2017, 12:06 am
#11
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Posts: 515
It was originally posted in the Premium Fares forum, it was just moved when it became clear Google Flights had been hitting the bottle too hard.
