[PREM FARE GONE] AA: EU-South America $1,500 in J
Nov 29, 2015, 10:02 pm
#1
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[PREM FARE GONE] AA: EU-South America $1,500 in J
This seems to be a new low.
Saw wide open availability on AA starting at $1,500 for EU to various destinations in South America as far out as June (checked ZRH, FRA, CDG, MXP but this seems to be good across the board). Brazil (GRU/GIG) is cheapest. Routing through all AA hubs possible. Fare rules allow stopovers.
Booked FRA-DFW-GRU-DFW-CDG over Easter for CHF 1,592. Fare code INN8S2E3.
This will earn 40k EQM and (with all bonuses) 64k RDM in AAdvantage. Not bad at all. Especially considering Economy was almost $900.
See fare rules in post 13: EUR 500 change fee, 28 days advance purchase, Sat. night stay requirement.
Saw wide open availability on AA starting at $1,500 for EU to various destinations in South America as far out as June (checked ZRH, FRA, CDG, MXP but this seems to be good across the board). Brazil (GRU/GIG) is cheapest. Routing through all AA hubs possible. Fare rules allow stopovers.
Booked FRA-DFW-GRU-DFW-CDG over Easter for CHF 1,592. Fare code INN8S2E3.
This will earn 40k EQM and (with all bonuses) 64k RDM in AAdvantage. Not bad at all. Especially considering Economy was almost $900.
See fare rules in post 13: EUR 500 change fee, 28 days advance purchase, Sat. night stay requirement.
Last edited by bhomburg; Nov 30, 2015 at 5:41 am Reason: wrong RDM calculation. added fare rules.
Nov 30, 2015, 12:09 am
#2
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Damn - thank you. Put FRA-DFW-GRU on hold for $564 in Y, but your itin. for J for $1590 is absolutely tempting. If I didn't need to get approval from my real "boss," I would've booked the latter by now.
Edit: Couldn't resist and put CDG-DFW-GRU-DFW-FRA on hold for $1488 booked in I across the board.
Edit: Couldn't resist and put CDG-DFW-GRU-DFW-FRA on hold for $1488 booked in I across the board.
Last edited by kanny; Nov 30, 2015 at 2:52 am
Nov 30, 2015, 1:24 am
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Nov 30, 2015, 1:33 am
#5
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I get 20,313 BIS miles, so...
50% cabin bonus + 100% EXP bonus + 3,500 I fare EXP bonus x 4 = 64,783 RDM.
Am I missing something somewhere?
Nov 30, 2015, 1:37 am
#6
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: BSL-ZRH
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Dear TO,
Many thanks for your great finding. I can replicate Fra-Gru for 2099USD on AA page but come never down to 1500USD. I am looking for flight especially departing from ZRH but from there prices higher.
Although the prices are ok.
Google flight and other OTAs I tried but do not show too.
Which date did you book and where did you book?
Many thanks
B
Many thanks for your great finding. I can replicate Fra-Gru for 2099USD on AA page but come never down to 1500USD. I am looking for flight especially departing from ZRH but from there prices higher.
Although the prices are ok.
Google flight and other OTAs I tried but do not show too.
Which date did you book and where did you book?
Many thanks
B
Nov 30, 2015, 2:54 am
#7
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: London
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Here's an example a bit over $1500 to help you get started
https://www.kayak.co.uk/flights/AMS-...04-13/business
https://www.kayak.co.uk/flights/AMS-...04-13/business
Nov 30, 2015, 4:09 am
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Join Date: Nov 2011
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Dear TO,
Many thanks for your great finding. I can replicate Fra-Gru for 2099USD on AA page but come never down to 1500USD. I am looking for flight especially departing from ZRH but from there prices higher.
Although the prices are ok.
Google flight and other OTAs I tried but do not show too.
Which date did you book and where did you book?
Many thanks
B
Many thanks for your great finding. I can replicate Fra-Gru for 2099USD on AA page but come never down to 1500USD. I am looking for flight especially departing from ZRH but from there prices higher.
Although the prices are ok.
Google flight and other OTAs I tried but do not show too.
Which date did you book and where did you book?
Many thanks
B
http://i11l-services.aa.com/xaa/mseG...RA%2C%2CGRU%2C
Nov 30, 2015, 4:27 am
#9
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Anyone had any luck for early Jan/Feb for 20k+ EQM? I've been able to manage 1750-2200 but only for ~18.5k BIS miles
https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...c=b;a=ONEWORLD
https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...c=b;a=ONEWORLD
Nov 30, 2015, 4:28 am
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If traveling before 31JAN (which the itin in question is not) one could claim another 25k RDM.
Nov 30, 2015, 5:23 am
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https://www.aa.com/viewPromotionDeta...&_locale=en_US
If traveling before 31JAN (which the itin in question is not) one could claim another 25k RDM.
If traveling before 31JAN (which the itin in question is not) one could claim another 25k RDM.
Nov 30, 2015, 5:37 am
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BTW, don't rely on Matrix with these. Matrix shows much higher prices in the initial overview but goes down once you click through to a specific day. Very disappointing.
Hell, I`ll go and book another one of these for a work trip to LAX by stopping over in DFW/MIA/JFK and just buying a separate DFW/MIA/JFK-LAX return ticket for under $200 - more miles, EXP requalification bagged by April, seeing my fav. band in Rio on the way - all that for half the cost of a regular, direct ticket to LAX!
And these aren't mistake fares and I`m pretty sure they'll stick around for awhile. AA has to compete with all those carrieres with direct flights, and as those have slashed their prices as well, the customer profits, for the moment anyway.
I just came back from a GRU trip on AA, and I`ve never seen those 77W business cabins so empty - less than half of the seats were filled. Economy was equally empty - we got a whole row for ourselves all the way.
Looks like the Brazilian economy really took a nosedive, and I`m sure the 77W will vanish from these routes and capacity gets adjusted when this persists for much longer...
These fares have a 28-day advance purchase requirement, and you need to build in a Saturday night stay - keep that in mind.
Fare rules:
Code:
Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 28 DAYS
BEFORE DEPARTURE.
WAITLIST AND STANDBY NOT PERMITTED.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 28 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE
WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
Category 6: Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO
EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
Category 7: Maximum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12
MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Category 8: Stopover restrictions
2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
LIMITED TO 1 FREE AND 1 AT GBP 60.00.
1 FREE IN EUROPE/CONTIGUOUS U.S.A.
1 IN EUROPE/CONTIGUOUS U.S.A. AT GBP 60.00.
NOTE -
STOPOVERS ARE PERMITTED AT EUROPEAN GATEWAY OR
WITHIN THE CONTINENTAL US WITHIN MPM LIMITS.
OR - 2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
LIMITED TO 1 FREE AND 1 AT EUR 75.00.
1 FREE IN EUROPE/CONTIGUOUS U.S.A.
1 IN EUROPE/CONTIGUOUS U.S.A. AT EUR 75.00.
NOTE -
STOPOVERS ARE PERMITTED AT EUROPEAN GATEWAY OR
WITHIN THE CONTINENTAL US WITHIN MPM LIMITS.
OR - 2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
LIMITED TO 1 FREE AND 1 AT USD 100.00.
1 FREE IN EUROPE/CONTIGUOUS U.S.A.
1 IN EUROPE/CONTIGUOUS U.S.A. AT USD 100.00.
NOTE -
STOPOVERS ARE PERMITTED AT EUROPEAN GATEWAY OR
WITHIN THE CONTINENTAL US WITHIN MPM LIMITS.
Category 10: Combinability
END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD FARES.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA/BA/IB/US
IN RULE 7100/8005 IN TARIFF
ATMAAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF
IPRA - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA
ATLANTIC
IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
ATLANTIC
IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
ATLANTIC.
Category 16: Penalties
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL/NO-SHOW/
REFUND.
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
NOTE -
OR TRAVELING COMPANION.
CHANGES
BEFORE DEPARTURE
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED.
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
NOTE -
WAIVER ALSO APPLIES TO TRAVELING COMPANION.
AFTER DEPARTURE
CHARGE EUR 500.00.
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
NOTE -
WAIVER ALSO APPLIES TO TRAVELING COMPANION.
CHILDS DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY TO CHANGE FEE/
INFANTS DO NOT PAY CHANGE FEE.
NO CHANGE TO ORIG/DEST.
WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE
NO REFUNDS WILL BE MADE. HOWEVER THE DIFFERENCE
IN FARE WLL BE RETURNED TO THE PASSENGER IN THE
FORM OF A NON-REFUNDBALE TRAVEL VOUCHER WHICH MAY
BE APPLIED TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF A TICKET VALID
FOR TRANSPORTATION GOVERNED BY AA ONLY.
WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE
THE DIFFERENCE WILL BE ADD COLLECTED AND THE
CHANGE FEE WILL APPLY.
Category 31: Voluntary changes
IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CHANGES EXCEPT RBD NOT PERMITTED TO THE FARE COMPONENT-
CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS.
OR -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE EUR 500.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM
THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL
FORM OF PAYMENT
ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
IN THE CASE OF DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER -
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
2. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE
OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM
THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL
FORM OF PAYMENT
ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
IN THE CASE OF DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER -
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM
THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL
FORM OF PAYMENT
ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
REPRICE USING CURRENT FARES - ONLY BOOKING CODE
CHANGES PERMITTED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
2. AA FARES ARE USED
3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
4. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO AA
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM
THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL
FORM OF PAYMENT
ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
Nov 30, 2015, 6:04 am
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This seems to be a new low.
Saw wide open availability on AA starting at $1,500 for EU to various destinations in South America as far out as June (checked ZRH, FRA, CDG, MXP but this seems to be good across the board). Brazil (GRU/GIG) is cheapest. Routing through all AA hubs possible. Fare rules allow stopovers.
Booked FRA-DFW-GRU-DFW-CDG over Easter for CHF 1,592. Fare code INN8S2E3.
This will earn 40k EQM and (with all bonuses) 64k RDM in AAdvantage. Not bad at all. Especially considering Economy was almost $900.
See fare rules in post 13: EUR 500 change fee, 28 days advance purchase, Sat. night stay requirement.
Saw wide open availability on AA starting at $1,500 for EU to various destinations in South America as far out as June (checked ZRH, FRA, CDG, MXP but this seems to be good across the board). Brazil (GRU/GIG) is cheapest. Routing through all AA hubs possible. Fare rules allow stopovers.
Booked FRA-DFW-GRU-DFW-CDG over Easter for CHF 1,592. Fare code INN8S2E3.
This will earn 40k EQM and (with all bonuses) 64k RDM in AAdvantage. Not bad at all. Especially considering Economy was almost $900.
See fare rules in post 13: EUR 500 change fee, 28 days advance purchase, Sat. night stay requirement.
Nov 30, 2015, 9:54 am
#15
Join Date: May 2006
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Has anyone made this work over LAX?
Very helpful, thanks.
Here's an example a bit over $1500 to help you get started
https://www.kayak.co.uk/flights/AMS-...04-13/business
https://www.kayak.co.uk/flights/AMS-...04-13/business
