Everybody FREEZE!!!!!!!!!
May 21, 2009, 9:22 am
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May 21, 2009, 9:26 am
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Except during breaches. Even if they had cleared the tunnel, they cannot leave the belt, doing so, makes that another breach.
While we can't detain or attempt to physically stop you (nothing about verbally attempting to stop you), it's not recommended, because any breach will be reported to the operations center and the airport police. And they can stop you/detain you.
And if you don't stop for them, you will most likely be arrested for failure to obey a police officer and possibly resisting arrest.
As for the drill thing?
ATL isn't my airport, so I don't have anything to say.
While we can't detain or attempt to physically stop you (nothing about verbally attempting to stop you), it's not recommended, because any breach will be reported to the operations center and the airport police. And they can stop you/detain you.
And if you don't stop for them, you will most likely be arrested for failure to obey a police officer and possibly resisting arrest.
As for the drill thing?
ATL isn't my airport, so I don't have anything to say.If the TSA is going to pull stunts like this, they need to notify the LEOs beforehand in order that someone with real authority is present at the time.
Just another way to add to the stress of the checkpoint.
May 21, 2009, 9:27 am
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Again, TSA has no power to detain. If their ego gets bruised enough to report to police, I highly doubt the police would want to waste their time with me beyond a couple of questions. If the TSA wants to get into a legal pissing match about that, I'm sure I can find an attorney who would be happy to go to court over that.
TSA has "implied consent" to search, not the power to detain. Big difference there.
May 21, 2009, 10:22 am
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The inner child in me thinks the best thing to do during a game of freeze is to make a "raspberry" while it is quiet.
The grown up in me is ticked that the TSOs would cry wolf. What happens during a real emergency like the one Dean had with the tornado evacuation?
The grown up in me is ticked that the TSOs would cry wolf. What happens during a real emergency like the one Dean had with the tornado evacuation?
May 21, 2009, 10:29 am
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In a real emergency, TSA steps out of the way and lets LEO take over.
May 21, 2009, 10:31 am
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While we can't detain or attempt to physically stop you (nothing about verbally attempting to stop you), it's not recommended, because any breach will be reported to the operations center and the airport police. And they can stop you/detain you.
And if you don't stop for them, you will most likely be arrested for failure to obey a police officer and possibly resisting arrest.
May 21, 2009, 10:45 am
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This might be the flip side to SSI secret rules/regulations. Do you have to comply with something that you have no rights to read? That would be an interesting trial to follow.
May 21, 2009, 11:43 am
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This is the first I've heard about this "Freeze!" business. Is it common? Are screeners free to shout like that whenever they feel like it? (The proverbial shouting "Fire" in a crowded theater comes to mind.) What is the point - as mentioned upthread, passengers know how to stand still, so why is a "drill" necessary? What provisions are made for palsy, for hearing impaired, for non-English speakers?
May 21, 2009, 12:35 pm
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I don't understand the purpose of this type of "emergency" drill. Had there been an actual emergency at the screening point, what is accomplished by having everyone in the area freeze on the spot. If there was an emergency (fire, smoke, bomb, angry guy with a gun, etc.), would it not be more prudent to evacuate the area?
May 21, 2009, 12:59 pm
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Only a TSA SSI procedure written by an idiot like The Kipster could be so stupid as to require people to stay next to a found b*mb.
Sigh.
May 21, 2009, 1:38 pm
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oh my GOSH these responses are hilarious!! As for foreign passengers...someone made an excellent point!
What they SHOULD have done was yelled, "FREEZE!"....then had someone with a clipboard yell, "NO SE MUEVA!", *sound of page turning* "Nicht Bewegen!" *again, the page* "Не перемещайте" and "Không được di chuyển"....and that's just a start.
No wonder someone moved.....twas probably some poor Lithuanian wondering why all the white-tennis shoe wearers suddenly froze in motion.
Wish I could remember the day when this happened. I think too much time has passed to do much about it. DANG....that raspberry suggestion was a classic!
Wish I'd thought of it!
May 21, 2009, 2:19 pm
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You know, I have some mild hearing loss, I wonder what would happen if I didn’t hear the order to freeze?
If I did hear it, my first honest reaction would be to say in a loud enough voice for everyone to hear “What, are you practicing holding up a bank?” or some similar comment to make everyone start laughing at the TSA clown.
If I did hear it, my first honest reaction would be to say in a loud enough voice for everyone to hear “What, are you practicing holding up a bank?” or some similar comment to make everyone start laughing at the TSA clown.
