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Old Mar 21, 2017, 9:28 am
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7/19: Electronics ban over! Saudia lifts ban.
https://twitter.com/Saudi_Airlines/status/887588098464415744/photo/1
7/12: Royal Air Maroc lifts ban starting 7/13.
https://twitter.com/RAM_Maroc/status/885068591909011459/photo/1
EgyptAir ban also lifted.
https://twitter.com/EGYPTAIR/status/885052169233330176/photo/1
7/9: Royal Jordanian & Kuwait Airways lift ban.
https://twitter.com/RoyalJordanian/status/884063505397288960/photo/1
https://twitter.com/KuwaitAirways/status/884080142913593344
7/5: Emirates & Qatar lifts ban.
https://www.emirates.com/us/english/help/travel-updates.aspx#/#4086177
http://www.qatarairways.com/us/en/travel-alerts.page?CID=AFALL0204026300000000000
7/4: Turkish lifts electronics ban.
https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/status/882343356143161344/
7/2: Etihad lifts electronics ban.
http://www.etihad.com/en/announcements/usa-flights-electronic-device-ban/

6/28: "DHS said the 10 airports where US-bound passengers are currently required to place large PEDs in checked baggage—the so-called laptop ban—can have those PED restrictions lifted if the airports comply with the enhanced security measures being required by the US."

Source: http://atwonline.com/security/all-us...y-requirements

As per mods: No political talk! Political discussions are permitted over in Omni-PR linked below.

Real life experiences with the ban:
Emirates 1
Qatar 1

Official info from U.S. DHS.
Source: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/03/21/...rture-airports
The aviation security enhancements will include requiring that all personal electronic devices larger than a cell phone or smart phone be placed in checked baggage at 10 airports where flights are departing for the United States.

These enhancements apply to 10 specific airports. The affected overseas airports are: Queen Alia International Airport (AMM), Cairo International Airport (CAI), Ataturk International Airport (IST), King Abdul-Aziz International Airport (JED), King Khalid International Airport (RUH), Kuwait International Airport (KWI), Mohammed V Airport (CMN), Hamad International Airport (DOH), Dubai International Airport (DXB), and Abu Dhabi International Airport (AUH).

There is no impact on domestic flights in the United States or flights departing the United States. Electronic devices will continue to be allowed on all flights originating in the United States.
Emirates passengers flying to US directly from Dubai:
Source: https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-introduces-laptop-and-tablet-handling-service-for-us-flights
Emirates customers travelling to the US via Dubai will be able to utilise their laptops and tablet devices on the first part of their journeys, and also during transit in Dubai. They must then declare and hand over their laptops, tablets, and other banned electronic devices to security staff at the gate just before boarding their US-bound flight. The devices will be carefully packed into boxes, loaded into the aircraft hold, and returned to the customer at their US destination. There will not be any charge for this service.

Passengers on US-bound flights starting their journeys in Dubai are encouraged to pack their electronic devices into their check-in luggage in the first instance, to avoid delays.

Customers should be aware that there will be a detailed search of all hand baggage on non-stop flights to the US from Dubai. They should therefore declare their devices before the search, or ensure their electronic devices are packed into their check-in luggage in the first instance.
Other threads on this topic:
Thread on this subject in TSS-Debate Forum

Thread on this subject in Omni-PR

Thread on similar UK ban, in TSS-Practical forum
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Old Mar 24, 2017, 3:05 pm
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Originally Posted by techie
Etihad has announced their policy too, effective March 25: http://www.arabianaerospace.aero/eti...d-flights.html
I think that must have been translated without sufficient proof reading, because I can't understand it. It says that the electronics must be checked at the point of origin, not in Abu Dhabi, if the passenger is continuing to US. But it doesn't say anything about how that will be determined, handled, etc. Regarding the return of devices which are gate-checked, it does seem to say that those will be returned in the jetway on arrival, although it doesn't actually say that.
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I think that must have been translated without sufficient proof reading, because I can't understand it. It says that the electronics must be checked at the point of origin, not in Abu Dhabi, if the passenger is continuing to US. But it doesn't say anything about how that will be determined, handled, etc. Regarding the return of devices which are gate-checked, it does seem to say that those will be returned in the jetway on arrival, although it doesn't actually say that.
Why not just go to the English site here?

Mobile phones and medical devices are permitted but larger items including laptops, tablets, cameras and e-readers will need to be placed into baggage that is checked-in. This must be done at the start of any US-bound journey, which may not necessarily be at Abu Dhabi Airport. The ban does not affect flights leaving from the US towards Abu Dhabi and beyond.
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Originally Posted by techie
Etihad has announced their policy too, effective March 25: http://www.arabianaerospace.aero/eti...d-flights.html
If the device doesn't turn on and there is no power source available for the device to be turned on or recharged, security or the EY may confiscate the banned devices for US-bound flights if they ask to see it turn on and it doesn't. This may happen even for items to be placed in checked luggage.

Not a good thing for customers whose battery has problems or devices being transported home for repair or data recovery prior to disposal.

EY's electronic devices to US, UK and Canada policy:

Originally Posted by Etihad

The maximum permitted dimensions for a cell phone allowed in the cabin of an aircraft are 16cmx9.3cmx1.5cm. Please ensure that if you are carrying a mobile phone, it is charged and can be switched on for security inspection.

Medical devices are also permitted; however larger items such as laptops, tablets, cameras and e-readers must be placed into checked-in baggage at the point of origin, which may not necessarily be at Abu Dhabi International Airport. The new rules come into effect for US-bound flights departing Abu Dhabi as of 25th March, 2017.

If you are travelling to the UK or Canada, please fully charge all your electronic devices prior to checking-in for your flight. You may be asked to switch them on for security inspection. In case your laptop, tablet, e-reader, camera or other device cannot be switched on, you will be asked to dispose off the item or you may be denied access to your flight.
http://www.etihad.com/en-us/before-y...baggage-guide/

The airline says AUH has no facilities to store these devices that are denied transport.

The EY policy on spare batteries may be a real turn off, especially given what it can mean: confiscation/loss of device and/or batteries.

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Old Mar 24, 2017, 4:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Global321
Why not just go to the English site here?

Mobile phones and medical devices are permitted but larger items including laptops, tablets, cameras and e-readers will need to be placed into baggage that is checked-in. This must be done at the start of any US-bound journey, which may not necessarily be at Abu Dhabi Airport. The ban does not affect flights leaving from the US towards Abu Dhabi and beyond.
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Must be done at the check-in counter? Will be enforced on the jet bridge by looking at ALL of the boarding passes for all of the flights you are taking? If you get to the jet bridge will it be delivered to you in Abu Dhabi and then you check it in again on the next jet bridge? Or will it still be returned on the jet bridge in US? Or will it be sent onto the baggage conveyor loose?
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Originally Posted by sbrower
Must be done at the check-in counter? Will be enforced on the jet bridge by looking at ALL of the boarding passes for all of the flights you are taking? If you get to the jet bridge will it be delivered to you in Abu Dhabi and then you check it in again on the next jet bridge? Or will it still be returned on the jet bridge in US? Or will it be sent onto the baggage conveyor loose?
Short answer is we don't know.

I would imagine you will be asked at origin to surrender them. It would be relatively simple to say 'don't have any'. Use them on first flight and lounge... then surrender at US security at Abu Dhabi.
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Originally Posted by oopl
Turkish issues a press release on how they're handling things.

http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-us...re-comfortable
Am I understanding this correctly in that for passengers who transit through IST on the way to US, electronics can be used on board for the first flight (elsewhere to IST) and will only need to be handed over for the second flight (IST to US)?
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Am I understanding this correctly in that for passengers who transit through IST on the way to US, electronics can be used on board for the first flight (elsewhere to IST) and will only need to be handed over for the second flight (IST to US)?
That was how I understood it as well. EMIRATES came out with a similar plan first and it's nice to know, let hope the option is seemless and doesn't end up leading to boarding delays and a nightmare at the gate.
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Am I understanding this correctly in that for passengers who transit through IST on the way to US, electronics can be used on board for the first flight (elsewhere to IST) and will only need to be handed over for the second flight (IST to US)?
For Turkish, yes.
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Old Mar 25, 2017, 3:08 pm
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For Turkish, yes.
Good. I wasn't quite sure due to the language they used - something like "passenger shall deliver on arrival in IST". I guess it was supposed to mean "passenger should hand over electronics at the gate prior to departure from IST".
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This has probably been answered already but I couldn't find anything in this thread or on the web: does the ban apply to noise-cancelling headsets?

I don't think it does, but has anyone who travelled in the last few days noticed anything about this?
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I read in another thread- (on hand report of trip) that headphones are being taken as an electronic bigger than a cell phone. Since I listen to music stored on my phone assume I will have to carry ear bud type or be without use since airline headphones not compatible.

personal comment: All over the ear headphones are bigger than a cell and I hate ear buds.

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See Post#44
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/emira...dxb-usa-3.html




Originally Posted by Enthilza
This has probably been answered already but I couldn't find anything in this thread or on the web: does the ban apply to noise-cancelling headsets?

I don't think it does, but has anyone who travelled in the last few days noticed anything about this?

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Old Mar 27, 2017, 1:52 am
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Originally Posted by Enthilza
This has probably been answered already but I couldn't find anything in this thread or on the web: does the ban apply to noise-cancelling headsets?

I don't think it does, but has anyone who travelled in the last few days noticed anything about this?
Yes, it does apply to the US ban.
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Old Mar 27, 2017, 4:19 am
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That's what I was afraid of. Thanks for the replies folks.
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Old Mar 27, 2017, 5:20 am
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Originally Posted by Enthilza
That's what I was afraid of. Thanks for the replies folks.
It doesn't apply to the UK ban. So you could fly via say LHR to go from all of countries to the US and it would be allowed, even on the UK-US journey that originated in a blacklisted country like Turkey. Just make sure they can be powered on.
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One item that isn't being mentioned and I'm surprised it hasn't been up on social media is that bags on these flights are subject to additional inbound screening before allowed into arrivals hall. This is being done daily on a random selection basis.

Has anyone who's flown with the announced carriers notice a delay on receiving your checked bags?
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