Mar 21, 2017, 9:28 am
Last edit by: oopl
7/19: Electronics ban over! Saudia lifts ban.
https://twitter.com/Saudi_Airlines/status/887588098464415744/photo/1
7/12: Royal Air Maroc lifts ban starting 7/13.
https://twitter.com/RAM_Maroc/status/885068591909011459/photo/1
EgyptAir ban also lifted.
https://twitter.com/EGYPTAIR/status/885052169233330176/photo/1
7/9: Royal Jordanian & Kuwait Airways lift ban.
https://twitter.com/RoyalJordanian/status/884063505397288960/photo/1
https://twitter.com/KuwaitAirways/status/884080142913593344
7/5: Emirates & Qatar lifts ban.
https://www.emirates.com/us/english/help/travel-updates.aspx#/#4086177
http://www.qatarairways.com/us/en/travel-alerts.page?CID=AFALL0204026300000000000
7/4: Turkish lifts electronics ban.
https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/status/882343356143161344/
7/2: Etihad lifts electronics ban.
http://www.etihad.com/en/announcements/usa-flights-electronic-device-ban/
6/28: "DHS said the 10 airports where US-bound passengers are currently required to place large PEDs in checked baggage—the so-called laptop ban—can have those PED restrictions lifted if the airports comply with the enhanced security measures being required by the US."
Source: http://atwonline.com/security/all-us...y-requirements
As per mods: No political talk! Political discussions are permitted over in Omni-PR linked below.
Real life experiences with the ban:
Emirates 1
Qatar 1
Official info from U.S. DHS.
Source: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/03/21/...rture-airports
Emirates passengers flying to US directly from Dubai:
Source: https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-introduces-laptop-and-tablet-handling-service-for-us-flights
Other threads on this topic:
Thread on this subject in TSS-Debate Forum
Thread on this subject in Omni-PR
Thread on similar UK ban, in TSS-Practical forum
https://twitter.com/Saudi_Airlines/status/887588098464415744/photo/1
7/12: Royal Air Maroc lifts ban starting 7/13.
https://twitter.com/RAM_Maroc/status/885068591909011459/photo/1
EgyptAir ban also lifted.
https://twitter.com/EGYPTAIR/status/885052169233330176/photo/1
7/9: Royal Jordanian & Kuwait Airways lift ban.
https://twitter.com/RoyalJordanian/status/884063505397288960/photo/1
https://twitter.com/KuwaitAirways/status/884080142913593344
7/5: Emirates & Qatar lifts ban.
https://www.emirates.com/us/english/help/travel-updates.aspx#/#4086177
http://www.qatarairways.com/us/en/travel-alerts.page?CID=AFALL0204026300000000000
7/4: Turkish lifts electronics ban.
https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/status/882343356143161344/
7/2: Etihad lifts electronics ban.
http://www.etihad.com/en/announcements/usa-flights-electronic-device-ban/
6/28: "DHS said the 10 airports where US-bound passengers are currently required to place large PEDs in checked baggage—the so-called laptop ban—can have those PED restrictions lifted if the airports comply with the enhanced security measures being required by the US."
Source: http://atwonline.com/security/all-us...y-requirements
As per mods: No political talk! Political discussions are permitted over in Omni-PR linked below.
Real life experiences with the ban:
Emirates 1
Qatar 1
Official info from U.S. DHS.
Source: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/03/21/...rture-airports
The aviation security enhancements will include requiring that all personal electronic devices larger than a cell phone or smart phone be placed in checked baggage at 10 airports where flights are departing for the United States.
These enhancements apply to 10 specific airports. The affected overseas airports are: Queen Alia International Airport (AMM), Cairo International Airport (CAI), Ataturk International Airport (IST), King Abdul-Aziz International Airport (JED), King Khalid International Airport (RUH), Kuwait International Airport (KWI), Mohammed V Airport (CMN), Hamad International Airport (DOH), Dubai International Airport (DXB), and Abu Dhabi International Airport (AUH).
There is no impact on domestic flights in the United States or flights departing the United States. Electronic devices will continue to be allowed on all flights originating in the United States.
These enhancements apply to 10 specific airports. The affected overseas airports are: Queen Alia International Airport (AMM), Cairo International Airport (CAI), Ataturk International Airport (IST), King Abdul-Aziz International Airport (JED), King Khalid International Airport (RUH), Kuwait International Airport (KWI), Mohammed V Airport (CMN), Hamad International Airport (DOH), Dubai International Airport (DXB), and Abu Dhabi International Airport (AUH).
There is no impact on domestic flights in the United States or flights departing the United States. Electronic devices will continue to be allowed on all flights originating in the United States.
Source: https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-introduces-laptop-and-tablet-handling-service-for-us-flights
Emirates customers travelling to the US via Dubai will be able to utilise their laptops and tablet devices on the first part of their journeys, and also during transit in Dubai. They must then declare and hand over their laptops, tablets, and other banned electronic devices to security staff at the gate just before boarding their US-bound flight. The devices will be carefully packed into boxes, loaded into the aircraft hold, and returned to the customer at their US destination. There will not be any charge for this service.
Passengers on US-bound flights starting their journeys in Dubai are encouraged to pack their electronic devices into their check-in luggage in the first instance, to avoid delays.
Customers should be aware that there will be a detailed search of all hand baggage on non-stop flights to the US from Dubai. They should therefore declare their devices before the search, or ensure their electronic devices are packed into their check-in luggage in the first instance.
Passengers on US-bound flights starting their journeys in Dubai are encouraged to pack their electronic devices into their check-in luggage in the first instance, to avoid delays.
Customers should be aware that there will be a detailed search of all hand baggage on non-stop flights to the US from Dubai. They should therefore declare their devices before the search, or ensure their electronic devices are packed into their check-in luggage in the first instance.
Thread on this subject in TSS-Debate Forum
Thread on this subject in Omni-PR
Thread on similar UK ban, in TSS-Practical forum
Electronics Banned in Cabin on Flights to US from 8 ME and North African Countries
Apr 8, 2017, 2:08 pm
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Then it's still mostly no change from what it was last year. Electronics mostly permitted.
Apr 18, 2017, 11:07 am
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Warning: Istanbul Ataturk airport using wrong size templates for new electronics ban
Copied from the Electronic Devices Ban on Direct Flights to UK from 6 ME and North African Countries thread:
We have just completed our first journey following ban of certain electronics on UK inbound flights. The security check at the gate consists of body search and bag search. Every single piece of electronic is subjected to a test using small piece of plastic with two holes cut out. One to check width, one to check lenght. The problem is the thickness of these holes are way smaller than 1.5 cm allowed according to UK government announcement .
My power bank would not fit through this hole and was mercilessly added to a bin with what I estimate as 50 other power banks. My external hard drive would not fit either and that is when I noticed something is a bit off. I could clearly tell the HDD is no thicker than 1.5 cm, after much arguing and consulting senior staff I was allowed to keep it. Returning home I measured the power bank as I have one more identical one at home and it is 1.3 cm thick. My HDD is 1.1 cm thick so I would say the mold they are using is 1 cm thick maximum. Bear this in mind when travelling as you might lose essential items.
My power bank would not fit through this hole and was mercilessly added to a bin with what I estimate as 50 other power banks. My external hard drive would not fit either and that is when I noticed something is a bit off. I could clearly tell the HDD is no thicker than 1.5 cm, after much arguing and consulting senior staff I was allowed to keep it. Returning home I measured the power bank as I have one more identical one at home and it is 1.3 cm thick. My HDD is 1.1 cm thick so I would say the mold they are using is 1 cm thick maximum. Bear this in mind when travelling as you might lose essential items.
Apr 18, 2017, 2:22 pm
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The problem is how to safeguard your valuable (both intrinsic and extrinsic) devices and ensure that the device and the data arrives at your destination safely and on time.
It seems that TK has done the best job. EK is a bit lesser so. Rumours are that QR has done it without a lot of fan-fare.
Can anyone please address the process of delivering electronics at the boarding gate in DOH and the process to retrieve the electronics at the US Destination? Preferrably LAX?
First hand experience would allow proper discussion of the problem.
The problem is how to safeguard your valuable (both intrinsic and extrinsic) devices and ensure that the device and the data arrives at your destination safely and on time.
It seems that TK has done the best job. EK is a bit lesser so. Rumours are that QR has done it without a lot of fan-fare.
Can anyone please address the process of delivering electronics at the boarding gate in DOH and the process to retrieve the electronics at the US Destination? Preferrably LAX?
First hand experience would allow proper discussion of the problem.
I intended to avoid the problem on a recent trip from the USA to DAC by flying DAC-DOH-LHR-BOS on my return, but my departing QR flight out of DAC was over an hour late and I got to the gate for my LHR flight in DOH just as the gate was closing. They re-booked me on a direct DOH-BOS flight that left a couple hours later, but of course I couldn't travel with my laptop or iPad. At the gate, they had a desk with guy's with boxes, tape and bubble wrap, and they packed up my stuff and gave me a claim check. I know nothing political should be here but I think it's OK to mention that these helpful gentlemen found my impersonation of Donald Trump talking tough about terror very entertaining. On arrival in BOS, a QR employee hand-carried everyone's boxed-up electronics to the baggage claim area and released them to pax on presentation of their claim check. Obviously, I regretted not being able to use this very long flight productively, but otherwise I'd have to say QR did everything possible to make the best of an unfortunate situation.
Apr 25, 2017, 3:41 am
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Guardian today says the US is considering extending the ban to include flights from the UK/Europe: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...om-uk-airports
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May 8, 2017, 7:26 pm
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Moderator's Note:
Guardian today says the US is considering extending the ban to include flights from the UK/Europe: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...om-uk-airports
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If and when it goes into effect, it will then be a proper subject for discussion in the Practical Travel Safety and Security Issues forum.
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May 9, 2017, 1:25 pm
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Flying out of DEL to ORD and connecting in AUH, so i guess everything will be checked in at DEL itself since baggage is checked all the way.
the question is, are there bunch of computers to use at AUH since i have a 9 hour layover?
the question is, are there bunch of computers to use at AUH since i have a 9 hour layover?
May 9, 2017, 2:21 pm
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Etihad has announced their policy too, effective March 25: http://www.arabianaerospace.aero/eti...d-flights.html
To avoid inconvenience, guests are encouraged to pack the prohibited items in their checked baggage prior to reaching the Preclearance facility in Abu Dhabi. Any prohibited electronic devices will have to be declared and placed in padded envelopes before being securely taken to the aircraft luggage hold by staff. Such items will be returned to guests on arrival in the US, while conveniently, other items of checked-in luggage can be collected at the final destination in the United States.
Guests are also encouraged to avoid carrying spare battery packs larger than the permitted size as these will not be allowed in either the luggage hold or the cabin.
Guests are also encouraged to avoid carrying spare battery packs larger than the permitted size as these will not be allowed in either the luggage hold or the cabin.
May 10, 2017, 9:50 am
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AFAIK - All airlines affected by the ban let you keep electronics on all flights until the USA bound flight/preclearance.
Jun 29, 2017, 10:08 am
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As of yesterday..
Source: http://atwonline.com/security/all-us...y-requirements
wiki updated
"DHS said the 10 airports where US-bound passengers are currently required to place large PEDs in checked baggage—the so-called laptop ban—can have those PED restrictions lifted if the airports comply with the enhanced security measures being required by the US."
wiki updated
Jul 2, 2017, 11:28 am
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Jul 2, 2017, 12:33 pm
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Subject: Take all your electronics on US flights again
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Jul 4, 2017, 9:16 pm
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Turkish also lifted the electronics ban today.
https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/...3356143161344/
https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/...3356143161344/
Jul 5, 2017, 5:51 am
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