Mar 21, 2017, 9:28 am
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7/19: Electronics ban over! Saudia lifts ban.
https://twitter.com/Saudi_Airlines/status/887588098464415744/photo/1
7/12: Royal Air Maroc lifts ban starting 7/13.
https://twitter.com/RAM_Maroc/status/885068591909011459/photo/1
EgyptAir ban also lifted.
https://twitter.com/EGYPTAIR/status/885052169233330176/photo/1
7/9: Royal Jordanian & Kuwait Airways lift ban.
https://twitter.com/RoyalJordanian/status/884063505397288960/photo/1
https://twitter.com/KuwaitAirways/status/884080142913593344
7/5: Emirates & Qatar lifts ban.
https://www.emirates.com/us/english/help/travel-updates.aspx#/#4086177
http://www.qatarairways.com/us/en/travel-alerts.page?CID=AFALL0204026300000000000
7/4: Turkish lifts electronics ban.
https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/status/882343356143161344/
7/2: Etihad lifts electronics ban.
http://www.etihad.com/en/announcements/usa-flights-electronic-device-ban/
6/28: "DHS said the 10 airports where US-bound passengers are currently required to place large PEDs in checked baggage—the so-called laptop ban—can have those PED restrictions lifted if the airports comply with the enhanced security measures being required by the US."
Source: http://atwonline.com/security/all-us...y-requirements
As per mods: No political talk! Political discussions are permitted over in Omni-PR linked below.
Real life experiences with the ban:
Emirates 1
Qatar 1
Official info from U.S. DHS.
Source: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/03/21/...rture-airports
Emirates passengers flying to US directly from Dubai:
Source: https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-introduces-laptop-and-tablet-handling-service-for-us-flights
Other threads on this topic:
Thread on this subject in TSS-Debate Forum
Thread on this subject in Omni-PR
Thread on similar UK ban, in TSS-Practical forum
https://twitter.com/Saudi_Airlines/status/887588098464415744/photo/1
7/12: Royal Air Maroc lifts ban starting 7/13.
https://twitter.com/RAM_Maroc/status/885068591909011459/photo/1
EgyptAir ban also lifted.
https://twitter.com/EGYPTAIR/status/885052169233330176/photo/1
7/9: Royal Jordanian & Kuwait Airways lift ban.
https://twitter.com/RoyalJordanian/status/884063505397288960/photo/1
https://twitter.com/KuwaitAirways/status/884080142913593344
7/5: Emirates & Qatar lifts ban.
https://www.emirates.com/us/english/help/travel-updates.aspx#/#4086177
http://www.qatarairways.com/us/en/travel-alerts.page?CID=AFALL0204026300000000000
7/4: Turkish lifts electronics ban.
https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/status/882343356143161344/
7/2: Etihad lifts electronics ban.
http://www.etihad.com/en/announcements/usa-flights-electronic-device-ban/
6/28: "DHS said the 10 airports where US-bound passengers are currently required to place large PEDs in checked baggage—the so-called laptop ban—can have those PED restrictions lifted if the airports comply with the enhanced security measures being required by the US."
Source: http://atwonline.com/security/all-us...y-requirements
As per mods: No political talk! Political discussions are permitted over in Omni-PR linked below.
Real life experiences with the ban:
Emirates 1
Qatar 1
Official info from U.S. DHS.
Source: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/03/21/...rture-airports
The aviation security enhancements will include requiring that all personal electronic devices larger than a cell phone or smart phone be placed in checked baggage at 10 airports where flights are departing for the United States.
These enhancements apply to 10 specific airports. The affected overseas airports are: Queen Alia International Airport (AMM), Cairo International Airport (CAI), Ataturk International Airport (IST), King Abdul-Aziz International Airport (JED), King Khalid International Airport (RUH), Kuwait International Airport (KWI), Mohammed V Airport (CMN), Hamad International Airport (DOH), Dubai International Airport (DXB), and Abu Dhabi International Airport (AUH).
There is no impact on domestic flights in the United States or flights departing the United States. Electronic devices will continue to be allowed on all flights originating in the United States.
These enhancements apply to 10 specific airports. The affected overseas airports are: Queen Alia International Airport (AMM), Cairo International Airport (CAI), Ataturk International Airport (IST), King Abdul-Aziz International Airport (JED), King Khalid International Airport (RUH), Kuwait International Airport (KWI), Mohammed V Airport (CMN), Hamad International Airport (DOH), Dubai International Airport (DXB), and Abu Dhabi International Airport (AUH).
There is no impact on domestic flights in the United States or flights departing the United States. Electronic devices will continue to be allowed on all flights originating in the United States.
Source: https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-introduces-laptop-and-tablet-handling-service-for-us-flights
Emirates customers travelling to the US via Dubai will be able to utilise their laptops and tablet devices on the first part of their journeys, and also during transit in Dubai. They must then declare and hand over their laptops, tablets, and other banned electronic devices to security staff at the gate just before boarding their US-bound flight. The devices will be carefully packed into boxes, loaded into the aircraft hold, and returned to the customer at their US destination. There will not be any charge for this service.
Passengers on US-bound flights starting their journeys in Dubai are encouraged to pack their electronic devices into their check-in luggage in the first instance, to avoid delays.
Customers should be aware that there will be a detailed search of all hand baggage on non-stop flights to the US from Dubai. They should therefore declare their devices before the search, or ensure their electronic devices are packed into their check-in luggage in the first instance.
Passengers on US-bound flights starting their journeys in Dubai are encouraged to pack their electronic devices into their check-in luggage in the first instance, to avoid delays.
Customers should be aware that there will be a detailed search of all hand baggage on non-stop flights to the US from Dubai. They should therefore declare their devices before the search, or ensure their electronic devices are packed into their check-in luggage in the first instance.
Thread on this subject in TSS-Debate Forum
Thread on this subject in Omni-PR
Thread on similar UK ban, in TSS-Practical forum
Electronics Banned in Cabin on Flights to US from 8 ME and North African Countries
Mar 23, 2017, 6:13 am
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I have two questions:
Is this for flights departing directly from the airports mentioned?
What about the Dubai - Milan - JFK flight? Are electronics allowed here, as part of cabin baggage?
What about return flights? Can a JFK - Dubai Emirates flight allow for electronics as part of carry on baggage?
Is this for flights departing directly from the airports mentioned?
What about the Dubai - Milan - JFK flight? Are electronics allowed here, as part of cabin baggage?
What about return flights? Can a JFK - Dubai Emirates flight allow for electronics as part of carry on baggage?
Dubai-Milan-JFK on EK will continue to allow all electronics unless and until the US changes the ban.
For JFK-Dubai on EK, the electronics rules are the same as for flying JFK-MXP on EK or otherwise -- the same rules as pre-ban.
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Mar 23, 2017, 7:12 am
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I was called directly by QR for my flight departing DOH on 22 March that I would have to check my electronics. Maybe they postponed it, but I was told it would be in effect.
Would have been nice to know if they delayed it then I wouldn't have had to reroute away from DOH...
Would have been nice to know if they delayed it then I wouldn't have had to reroute away from DOH...
Mar 23, 2017, 10:13 am
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For those flying on Emirates, they have just announced a free service for passengers who will fly directly to US from Dubai:
Emirates customers travelling to the US via Dubai will be able to utilise their laptops and tablet devices on the first part of their journeys, and also during transit in Dubai. They must then declare and hand over their laptops, tablets, and other banned electronic devices to security staff at the gate just before boarding their US-bound flight. The devices will be carefully packed into boxes, loaded into the aircraft hold, and returned to the customer at their US destination. There will not be any charge for this service.
Passengers on US-bound flights starting their journeys in Dubai are encouraged to pack their electronic devices into their check-in luggage in the first instance, to avoid delays.
Customers should be aware that there will be a detailed search of all hand baggage on non-stop flights to the US from Dubai. They should therefore declare their devices before the search, or ensure their electronic devices are packed into their check-in luggage in the first instance.
Passengers on US-bound flights starting their journeys in Dubai are encouraged to pack their electronic devices into their check-in luggage in the first instance, to avoid delays.
Customers should be aware that there will be a detailed search of all hand baggage on non-stop flights to the US from Dubai. They should therefore declare their devices before the search, or ensure their electronic devices are packed into their check-in luggage in the first instance.
Mar 23, 2017, 12:31 pm
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SNN is not in the UK.
KU117 has stopped in Shannon since June last year for "security reasons".
https://flyinginireland.com/2016/06/...nnon-launched/
KU117 has stopped in Shannon since June last year for "security reasons".
https://flyinginireland.com/2016/06/...nnon-launched/
Mar 23, 2017, 1:38 pm
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I can just see a lone laptop or iPad coming off the baggage belt dropping onto the carrousel. Anyone could grab it and steal it.
Mar 23, 2017, 2:17 pm
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See my post above on how Emirates are planning to deal with it at the gates.
Mar 23, 2017, 2:35 pm
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Oh, didn't see that before. How long will all this take? How many people will be lined up on the jetway waiting for baggage handlers to go into the hold and bring up all the small boxes to match them up with their owners? I would hope some one would be double-checking tickets to ensure people claim their own device-in-a-box. And what happens when someone says they never got theirs back because it was stolen by a baggage handler? This is going be a cluster.
Mar 23, 2017, 3:08 pm
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Oh, didn't see that before. How long will all this take? How many people will be lined up on the jetway waiting for baggage handlers to go into the hold and bring up all the small boxes to match them up with their owners? I would hope some one would be double-checking tickets to ensure people claim their own device-in-a-box. And what happens when someone says they never got theirs back because it was stolen by a baggage handler? This is going be a cluster.
Mar 23, 2017, 4:24 pm
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Emirates' plan. They're trying to work within the guidelines.
https://www.emirates.com/media-centr...for-us-flights
https://www.emirates.com/media-centr...for-us-flights
Mar 23, 2017, 5:30 pm
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I was called directly by QR for my flight departing DOH on 22 March that I would have to check my electronics. Maybe they postponed it, but I was told it would be in effect.
Would have been nice to know if they delayed it then I wouldn't have had to reroute away from DOH...
Would have been nice to know if they delayed it then I wouldn't have had to reroute away from DOH...
Sitting in LAX now, just got off QR DOH-LAX, no ban on March 23. (Lounge in DOH said starting March 24.)
Mar 23, 2017, 7:13 pm
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Mar 24, 2017, 9:15 am
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Emirates' plan. They're trying to work within the guidelines.
https://www.emirates.com/media-centr...for-us-flights
https://www.emirates.com/media-centr...for-us-flights
Mar 24, 2017, 9:53 am
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Turkish issues a press release on how they're handling things.
http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-us...re-comfortable
http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-us...re-comfortable
Mar 24, 2017, 2:35 pm
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Etihad has announced their policy too, effective March 25: http://www.arabianaerospace.aero/eti...d-flights.html
To avoid inconvenience, guests are encouraged to pack the prohibited items in their checked baggage prior to reaching the Preclearance facility in Abu Dhabi. Any prohibited electronic devices will have to be declared and placed in padded envelopes before being securely taken to the aircraft luggage hold by staff. Such items will be returned to guests on arrival in the US, while conveniently, other items of checked-in luggage can be collected at the final destination in the United States.
Guests are also encouraged to avoid carrying spare battery packs larger than the permitted size as these will not be allowed in either the luggage hold or the cabin.
Guests are also encouraged to avoid carrying spare battery packs larger than the permitted size as these will not be allowed in either the luggage hold or the cabin.