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Old Dec 10, 2016, 2:49 am
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Travelling on another person's passport

Hypothetically speaking, What would be the chances of being stopped if trying to board on another person's passport ( in Suwannabhumi BKK airport)? Say that the two persons look similar although not 100% alike, both from 1 st world european countries and the borrowed passport will not have been reported stolen in any way.

Considering the thai security/procedures, what would you say that the chance of making it onto the flight would be?
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Old Dec 10, 2016, 7:58 am
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Hypothetically speaking, What would be the chances of being stopped if trying to board on another person's passport ( in Suwannabhumi BKK airport)? Say that the two persons look similar although not 100% alike, both from 1 st world european countries and the borrowed passport will not have been reported stolen in any way.

Considering the thai security/procedures, what would you say that the chance of making it onto the flight would be?

I see no risk here! Just go for it and report back what happened 😂
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Old Dec 10, 2016, 10:35 am
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Originally Posted by JimGateB
Hypothetically speaking, What would be the chances of being stopped if trying to board on another person's passport ( in Suwannabhumi BKK airport)? Say that the two persons look similar although not 100% alike, both from 1 st world european countries and the borrowed passport will not have been reported stolen in any way.

Considering the thai security/procedures, what would you say that the chance of making it onto the flight would be?
The chances are not 0%, but they are also not 100%.

Thailand has FRT in use when BKK is the airport of exit from Thailand.
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Old Dec 10, 2016, 10:39 pm
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Most countries use a camera to verify I'd on top of the agent looking.
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Old Dec 11, 2016, 1:50 am
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
Most countries use a camera to verify I'd on top of the agent looking.
Many countries is not most countries. And even many of the countries that do such don't do it to all persons leaving the country..

Leaving Thailand on real passports stolen or illegally sold still happens.
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Old Dec 11, 2016, 2:35 am
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Originally Posted by JimGateB
Hypothetically speaking, What would be the chances of being stopped if trying to board on another person's passport ( in Suwannabhumi BKK airport)? Say that the two persons look similar although not 100% alike, both from 1 st world european countries and the borrowed passport will not have been reported stolen in any way.

Considering the thai security/procedures, what would you say that the chance of making it onto the flight would be?
The chances would be greater than I would be comfortable with risking, based on the potential severity of the penalty. I would not recommend this unless it is some sort of life-or-death matter.
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Old Dec 11, 2016, 2:38 am
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Originally Posted by cbn42
The chances would be greater than I would be comfortable with risking, based on the potential severity of the penalty. I would not recommend this unless it is some sort of life-or-death matter.
If done intentionally, it's generally illegal. Thai jails aren't pleasant places even as they don't have a prison rape problem on the frequency scale of the US prison system. The chances of being stopped at BKK and jailed are substantial for this kind of activity.

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Why would you want to travel under someone else's identity illegally?

Are you on the run from the law?

Are you on the run from a criminal syndicate (perhaps you borrowed from a loan shark and can't pay it back)?

Do you intend to perform some illegal activity at the destination (such as purchasing a sexual encounter with a child or engaging in human trafficking or smuggling)?

Are you attempting to give your mate an alibi while he performs some criminal activity (i.e. his passport shows he was in Thailand at the time the murder occurred, so he couldn't possibly be the killer)?

Are you a known or suspected international criminal?

Are you a known or suspected international terrorist?

Anyway, as GUWonder says, it's generally illegal to travel under a fraudulent name, either using fraudulent documents or using genuine documents in a fraudulent manner, so... DON'T.

Or, actually, *DO*, because if you're up to some no good, then traveling with a mate's passport and hoping beyond hope that white people all look alike to the Thai authorities will exponentially increase your chances of getting caught in whatever scheme you may or may not be hatching.

Have fun.


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**PS You guys know what this reminds me of? He's asking for info on how to commit a crime - feigning innocence, of course - from a bunch of random strangers on an internet message board. It reminds me of that scene from Office Space where the guys don't know what "money laundering" means.

"I can't believe what a bunch of nerds we are. We're looking up "money laundering" in a dictionary."

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Old Dec 11, 2016, 8:40 am
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Originally Posted by WillCAD
Why would you want to travel under someone else's identity illegally?

Are you on the run from the law?

Are you on the run from a criminal syndicate (perhaps you borrowed from a loan shark and can't pay it back)?

Do you intend to perform some illegal activity at the destination (such as purchasing a sexual encounter with a child or engaging in human trafficking or smuggling)?

Are you attempting to give your mate an alibi while he performs some criminal activity (i.e. his passport shows he was in Thailand at the time the murder occurred, so he couldn't possibly be the killer)?

Are you a known or suspected international criminal?

Are you a known or suspected international terrorist?

Anyway, as GUWonder says, it's generally illegal to travel under a fraudulent name, either using fraudulent documents or using genuine documents in a fraudulent manner, so... DON'T.

Or, actually, *DO*, because if you're up to some no good, then traveling with a mate's passport and hoping beyond hope that white people all look alike to the Thai authorities will exponentially increase your chances of getting caught in whatever scheme you may or may not be hatching.

Have fun.


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**PS You guys know what this reminds me of? He's asking for info on how to commit a crime - feigning innocence, of course - from a bunch of random strangers on an internet message board. It reminds me of that scene from Office Space where the guys don't know what "money laundering" means.

"I can't believe what a bunch of nerds we are. We're looking up "money laundering" in a dictionary."
Some people are just curious for the sake of being curious. For example, some people just like knowing the capabilities and limitations applicable to governmental authorities at airports of entry and/or exit.

Some of the stuff I've discussed with friends on a late Saturday night to understand or hypothesize about outcomes doesn't mean that the discussed scenario/hypothetical is part of a plot/conspiracy intended to be carried out by the discussing parties.
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Old Dec 11, 2016, 8:59 am
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Some people are just curious for the sake of being curious. For example, some people just like knowing the capabilities and limitations applicable to governmental authorities at airports of entry and/or exit.

Some of the stuff I've discussed with friends on a late Saturday night to understand or hypothesize about outcomes doesn't mean that the discussed scenario/hypothetical is part of a plot/conspiracy intended to be carried out by the discussing parties.
You don't find the posters question a bit suspicious?
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Old Dec 11, 2016, 9:08 am
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
You don't find the posters question a bit suspicious?
Sure, but I also understand an appreciation for information about governmental capabilities at an airport.

If I had asked about the same topic here, would it be more or less suspicious?

I certainly wouldn't be the kind of person engaged in the kind of hypothetical, generally unlawful activity covered in the OP. Still, if I were ignorant about this matter and curious about it, then I may well choose to try to ask people who may know the answers.

You could say I like to be a good student of governmental dynamics, capabilities and limitations relevant to travel, even when/if it's not my travel.
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Old Dec 11, 2016, 10:05 am
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Sure, but I also understand an appreciation for information about governmental capabilities at an airport.

If I had asked about the same topic here, would it be more or less suspicious?

I certainly wouldn't be the kind of person engaged in the kind of hypothetical, generally unlawful activity covered in the OP. Still, if I were ignorant about this matter and curious about it, then I may well choose to try to ask people who may know the answers.

You could say I like to be a good student of governmental dynamics, capabilities and limitations relevant to travel, even when/if it's not my travel.
Less suspicious. OP 2 postings both about security, you 81,000 posting.
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Old Dec 12, 2016, 1:16 am
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The chances are not 0%, but they are also not 100%.

Thailand has FRT in use when BKK is the airport of exit from Thailand.

FRT is a type of software they use?
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Old Dec 12, 2016, 1:26 am
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
Most countries use a camera to verify I'd on top of the agent looking.

I just read in another thread that they don't take your picture on departure from BKK. In that case ,could there still be a computer software involved to recognize facial features? or its just up to the eye sight of the agent's?
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Old Dec 12, 2016, 1:41 am
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Even without telling you to look at a camera, FRT use is possible and takes place at some airports.

Originally Posted by JimGateB
FRT is a type of software they use?
Facial recognition technology has a hardware and software component to it.

The Thai government -- and actually even the US Govt. -- has sometimes used it for Thai exit passport control at BKK.

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