Travel to/thru Turkey and SSSS
Sep 14, 2015, 1:38 pm
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After reading multiple posts, I'm a bit concerned as well. I bought a one-way ticket from VCE to LAX with turkish, since it was the cheapest, and it had a 23 hour layover. Since I've never been there, I was thinking of checking out Istanbul, since it's almost a day.
Do you guys think that would be a problem with possibly getting SSSS on future flights? If I knew this was going to be a problem, I would of skipped it.
Do you guys think that would be a problem with possibly getting SSSS on future flights? If I knew this was going to be a problem, I would of skipped it.
Sep 14, 2015, 5:18 pm
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Thanks for the heads up, I guess I'll just keep it. After that trip, I won't be going out until March of next year, so if I do get any problems, I guess it would pass after the 8 week period?
Sep 14, 2015, 9:13 pm
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This happened to my daughter in MAD when we were flying back home in June. She'd never been to Turkey or any other place in the Middle East, except for Israel three years earlier, and she has Global Entry. It also killed her Pre✓ for the connecting flight. We were both pissed, but there was nothing that we could do except file a complaint after getting home. My guess it that they had a quota to fill.
Sep 16, 2015, 2:11 pm
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A UA ticket for a LH-operated flight.
<SSSS> expansion to non-US airlines' boarding passes can be assigned to US "negotiated" push for it.
Did the friend get subjected to extra screening at FRA, and what was the screening like?
Here's the flow chart for how LH handles APIS and <SSSS> flagging. http://www.lhsystems.com/fileadmin/u...utions_web.pdf
<SSSS> expansion to non-US airlines' boarding passes can be assigned to US "negotiated" push for it.
Did the friend get subjected to extra screening at FRA, and what was the screening like?
Here's the flow chart for how LH handles APIS and <SSSS> flagging. http://www.lhsystems.com/fileadmin/u...utions_web.pdf
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Jan 1, 2016, 5:47 am
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Jan 1, 2016, 10:48 am
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I've seen F/3s hit by <SSSS> related to Turkey travel even as the accompanying M/30s and M/20s were not.
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Jan 1, 2016, 12:03 pm
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Turkey-bound travelers are rightly concerned about earning an SSSS label on their boarding passes, good for four months of air travel. Just curious, has anyone experienced this after returning from other Middle Eastern countries? (No, I'm not including Iraq, Syria, or Afghanistan, which no one in their right mind would travel to.)
Jan 1, 2016, 12:28 pm
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Jan 1, 2016, 3:07 pm
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Naturally, because of your age and travel history, the computer can easily confirm that during your time in Turkey, you and your wife illegally crossed the border into Syria and were ISIS-radicalized and are now trying to bring Jihad back to the USA and think we'll be none the wiser because you have US Citizenship. Nice try. We gotcha! Better luch next time terrorists!
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Jan 2, 2016, 7:51 am
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That's very encouraging.
So it is Turkey + Demographics + ? - ? = SSSS or CLR (or LLL). I wonder what the ?? are . . .
That's the zone of flagging I was thinking of.
Naturally, because of your age and travel history, the computer can easily confirm that during your time in Turkey, you and your wife illegally crossed the border into Syria and were ISIS-radicalized and are now trying to bring Jihad back to the USA and think we'll be none the wiser because you have US Citizenship. Nice try. We gotcha! Better luch next time terrorists!
So it is Turkey + Demographics + ? - ? = SSSS or CLR (or LLL). I wonder what the ?? are . . .
That's the zone of flagging I was thinking of.
Naturally, because of your age and travel history, the computer can easily confirm that during your time in Turkey, you and your wife illegally crossed the border into Syria and were ISIS-radicalized and are now trying to bring Jihad back to the USA and think we'll be none the wiser because you have US Citizenship. Nice try. We gotcha! Better luch next time terrorists!
Jan 2, 2016, 8:13 am
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There are some air routes into and out of Turkey with different passports that, for the purposes of <SSSS>, don't seem to result in the US getting fed the kind of info that takes place if flying on a single PNR out of/into the US or via say the UK and some EU countries on say US passports.
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Jan 2, 2016, 1:25 pm
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Jan 3, 2016, 4:55 pm
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There are some air routes into and out of Turkey with different passports that, for the purposes of <SSSS>, don't seem to result in the US getting fed the kind of info that takes place if flying on a single PNR out of/into the US or via say the UK and some EU countries on say US passports.
If you had asked me a year ago today, I really would have predicted that the security situation in the region would improve and the suspicion of Istanbul expats would end by now. Oh, how naive I was...
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