Temporary Swedish passport
Apr 17, 2015, 8:15 am
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The TSA issue with photo in prior Swedish passport was almost certainly not related to gender identity.
It was almost certainly related to some other issue, perhaps including aspects connected to how the Swedish government was handling and processing passport photos at the time of her passport application.
If I were the OP, I would merely insist on using the LPR card as photo ID with the TSA. It might require escalation and re-escalation, but eventually someone should acknowledge it as acceptable form of photo ID -- whether or not they accept it as ID for the OP, who knows.
It was almost certainly related to some other issue, perhaps including aspects connected to how the Swedish government was handling and processing passport photos at the time of her passport application.
If I were the OP, I would merely insist on using the LPR card as photo ID with the TSA. It might require escalation and re-escalation, but eventually someone should acknowledge it as acceptable form of photo ID -- whether or not they accept it as ID for the OP, who knows.
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Apr 17, 2015, 8:44 am
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If it has your photo, your name, an expiration date, and the consulate's raised seal, then why won't the TSA accept the document as foreign government-issued ID? Because it still suspects the document to be a fraudulently-created document or not to be a foreign government-issued passport?
They did not tell me why. But I can imagine cause it is pink and hand written. Plus swedish passport are very popular in the black market.
even the embassy has told me that it does happen that carriers of this EM gets into trouble.
Apr 17, 2015, 8:48 am
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The TSA issue with photo in prior Swedish passport was almost certainly not related to gender identity.
It was almost certainly related to some other issue, perhaps including aspects connected to how the Swedish government was handling and processing passport photos at the time of her passport application.
If I were the OP, I would merely insist on using the LPR card as photo ID with the TSA. It might require escalation and re-escalation, but eventually someone should acknowledge it as acceptable form of photo ID -- whether or not they accept it as ID for the OP, who knows.
It was almost certainly related to some other issue, perhaps including aspects connected to how the Swedish government was handling and processing passport photos at the time of her passport application.
If I were the OP, I would merely insist on using the LPR card as photo ID with the TSA. It might require escalation and re-escalation, but eventually someone should acknowledge it as acceptable form of photo ID -- whether or not they accept it as ID for the OP, who knows.
Most people look idiots when pictures are taken like this.
The photografer had a hard time taking the picture. the first set was rejected by the embassy. Secound set was accepted. Do I look weird in it. Yes I do. Apart from that just 11 years older.
Apr 17, 2015, 8:50 am
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Did you even read the post you're responding to?
Step 1. Check in at SAS, using your emergency/temporary passport. Check your bags. Do not go through security.
Step 2. Walk over to terminal 3 (outside of security), check in at United (with a fully refundable ticket for a domestic flight), and go through security there, showing your United domestic boarding pass and your green card.
Step 3. Walk back over to the SAS terminal and gate. Call United and cancel your flight. Get on plane to Sweden.
OR...
You could just check in for your SAS flight, go to security, show them your green card and emergency passport, and be on your way.
Is it 100% certain that TSA will not have some sort of issue with accepting your green card and emergency Swedish passport? No, nothing is 100% certain. It is, however, HIGHLY unlikely that you'll have any problem whatsoever.
One note: you mention upthread that TSA at one point had an issue with the picture in your Swedish passport. Do you look materially different from the picture on your green card? Please don't take offense, but does your gender identity and presentation match that listed on your documentation? If not, I can see how that could present an additional problem.
If, however, you have a valid green card with a picture that looks like you, and a valid emergency passport, you shouldn't have any trouble.
Step 1. Check in at SAS, using your emergency/temporary passport. Check your bags. Do not go through security.
Step 2. Walk over to terminal 3 (outside of security), check in at United (with a fully refundable ticket for a domestic flight), and go through security there, showing your United domestic boarding pass and your green card.
Step 3. Walk back over to the SAS terminal and gate. Call United and cancel your flight. Get on plane to Sweden.
OR...
You could just check in for your SAS flight, go to security, show them your green card and emergency passport, and be on your way.
Is it 100% certain that TSA will not have some sort of issue with accepting your green card and emergency Swedish passport? No, nothing is 100% certain. It is, however, HIGHLY unlikely that you'll have any problem whatsoever.
One note: you mention upthread that TSA at one point had an issue with the picture in your Swedish passport. Do you look materially different from the picture on your green card? Please don't take offense, but does your gender identity and presentation match that listed on your documentation? If not, I can see how that could present an additional problem.
If, however, you have a valid green card with a picture that looks like you, and a valid emergency passport, you shouldn't have any trouble.
Apr 17, 2015, 9:52 am
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I can imagine that TSA might be a bit skeptical of a handwritten document (Swedish emergency passport) that the person checking your documents has never seen before, but that's not all the ID you have. You have a valid green card, which they definitely HAVE seen before, and is US government issued.
SAS will want to see your passport when you check in. They'll have definitely seen a Swedish emergency passport before, so no issue there.
Your green card is definitely acceptable ID for TSA, whether for domestic or international flights. Start with that. In the event they do ask for a passport (they shouldn't, because whether or not you can get into Sweden on arrival is SAS's problem, not TSA's, but they might), show them the emergency passport.
Really, you're making a mountain out of a molehill here. Is it possible you'll have a problem? Sure, you could also get into a car accident on the way to the airport, for that matter. That said, I really really doubt you're going to run into any trouble whatsoever.
SAS will want to see your passport when you check in. They'll have definitely seen a Swedish emergency passport before, so no issue there.
Your green card is definitely acceptable ID for TSA, whether for domestic or international flights. Start with that. In the event they do ask for a passport (they shouldn't, because whether or not you can get into Sweden on arrival is SAS's problem, not TSA's, but they might), show them the emergency passport.
Really, you're making a mountain out of a molehill here. Is it possible you'll have a problem? Sure, you could also get into a car accident on the way to the airport, for that matter. That said, I really really doubt you're going to run into any trouble whatsoever.
Apr 17, 2015, 1:57 pm
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I can imagine that TSA might be a bit skeptical of a handwritten document (Swedish emergency passport) that the person checking your documents has never seen before, but that's not all the ID you have. You have a valid green card, which they definitely HAVE seen before, and is US government issued.
SAS will want to see your passport when you check in. They'll have definitely seen a Swedish emergency passport before, so no issue there.
Your green card is definitely acceptable ID for TSA, whether for domestic or international flights. Start with that. In the event they do ask for a passport (they shouldn't, because whether or not you can get into Sweden on arrival is SAS's problem, not TSA's, but they might), show them the emergency passport.
Really, you're making a mountain out of a molehill here. Is it possible you'll have a problem? Sure, you could also get into a car accident on the way to the airport, for that matter. That said, I really really doubt you're going to run into any trouble whatsoever.
SAS will want to see your passport when you check in. They'll have definitely seen a Swedish emergency passport before, so no issue there.
Your green card is definitely acceptable ID for TSA, whether for domestic or international flights. Start with that. In the event they do ask for a passport (they shouldn't, because whether or not you can get into Sweden on arrival is SAS's problem, not TSA's, but they might), show them the emergency passport.
Really, you're making a mountain out of a molehill here. Is it possible you'll have a problem? Sure, you could also get into a car accident on the way to the airport, for that matter. That said, I really really doubt you're going to run into any trouble whatsoever.
After reading what you guys write I get that all airports are different . And of cause everybody working in the airports are different.
I have flown out from LAX Los Angeles since 2001.
And between Sweden and USA since 1973. So I know how to travel.
Start with GC ?
TSA there always asks to have passport out not GC. That to everybody.Should they... nobody questioned that at LAX. Maybe they changed now I dont know.
Now I have moved up North and will fly out of San Francisco. No clue what they do there. We will see.
It always helps to hear how other people see it. Thank you . Have a great weekend.
Apr 18, 2015, 8:29 pm
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Apr 19, 2015, 12:53 am
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I've also seen the TSA TDCs insist on seeing passport ID for very young, international-flying minors -- even as children of that age (and some multiples older) are not required by the TSA to have ID for the TDC.
The TSA's ways are all the more reason to pad in additional time to deal with the TSA.
Apr 19, 2015, 4:54 am
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(When I fly ATL-JFK-TLV, I only show my ATL-JFK boarding pass to the TSA in Atlanta.) Once you are airside, nobody will ask to see your boarding pass again until you are ready to get on the plane at JFK.)
Apr 19, 2015, 5:43 am
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Are you flying non-stop? If not, you do not have to worry about the TSA. Do not show them your international boarding pass, just the boarding pass for the first segment.
(When I fly ATL-JFK-TLV, I only show my ATL-JFK boarding pass to the TSA in Atlanta.) Once you are airside, nobody will ask to see your boarding pass again until you are ready to get on the plane at JFK.)
(When I fly ATL-JFK-TLV, I only show my ATL-JFK boarding pass to the TSA in Atlanta.) Once you are airside, nobody will ask to see your boarding pass again until you are ready to get on the plane at JFK.)
Also, there are some routes, such as California-ORD-CPH, that involve clearing the TSA TDC at the transit airport screening checkpoint for the same-day connecting flight to CPH. The TSA at ORD, for example, generally checks for ID on this routing to CPH. Much the same goes for many Star Alliance trips that have California-EWR-CPH routings.
If the OP arrives at the airport early enough and takes a more direct routing like SFO-CPH by using the LPR card with the TSA and by using this emergency travel doc with the airline and CBP/passport control, then way more times than not it will work just fine and without issue. It does help if the names on all the docs line up and the Swedish consular officials are available to be contacted if there is doubt about the legitimacy of the document. My bet is that once the airline notice she's Swedish (and by the way she speaks in Swedish) the airline won't cause that much issue -- at least if SK's own employee/management is on-site.
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Apr 19, 2015, 6:03 am
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When flying JFK-TLV there is always a TSA-type security check at the gate, but it is done by a private company hired by Delta. They do not ask to see documents but they do have you remove shoes, belts, etc, even if you have Pre-Check.
Apr 19, 2015, 7:14 am
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For other JFK-originating/connecting trips on Delta, the TSA has done some gate checks and sometimes asks for ID along with boarding pass at the gate.