Aug 2, 2014, 2:28 pm
Last edit by: Mabuk dan gila
APC Locations: ATL AUA AUH AUS BOS CLT MDW ORD DFW DEN DTW DUB YEG FLL IAH LAS LAX MIA MSP YUL NAS JFK EWR MCO PHL PHX PDX RNO SLC SAN SFO SEA TPA YYZ YVR IAD
Eligible persons at all APC airports: U.S. and Canadian passport holders and international visitors from Visa Waiver Program countries are eligible to use APC kiosks. Visa Waiver Program visitors must have Electronic System for Travel Authorizations (ESTA) approval prior to travel and have visited the United States on at least one occasion after 2008.
Eligible persons at some but not all APC airports: US permanent residents might be eligible to use APC kiosks at LAX, SFO, ORD, DTW; probably more by now.
Eligible persons at all APC airports: U.S. and Canadian passport holders and international visitors from Visa Waiver Program countries are eligible to use APC kiosks. Visa Waiver Program visitors must have Electronic System for Travel Authorizations (ESTA) approval prior to travel and have visited the United States on at least one occasion after 2008.
Eligible persons at some but not all APC airports: US permanent residents might be eligible to use APC kiosks at LAX, SFO, ORD, DTW; probably more by now.
US CBP Automated Passport Control
Jul 30, 2013, 12:19 pm
#76
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That's not quite accurate - in addition to the passport control guy who apparently is performing a customs function, after passport control there are roving customs inspectors, as well as a final chance to be secondaried by the guy at the apparent exit to whom you hand your form.
At the US (& Canadian) border, immigration and customs are performed by one person.
The 'questions' are customs-related to detect nervousness which might indicate you are smuggling, be it food, birds, drugs, cuban cigars or a bottle of rum.
Kind of a silly system, but there you go.
The 'questions' are customs-related to detect nervousness which might indicate you are smuggling, be it food, birds, drugs, cuban cigars or a bottle of rum.
Kind of a silly system, but there you go.
Jul 30, 2013, 12:55 pm
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The Opposite Extreme
In Europe the apparent inability of immigration officials to ask question of EU citizens can have strange results.
A while back I was entering the UK with my then 10 year-old son - he was travelling on a US passport, I was on an EU passport. The immigration officer therefore only asked me questions about my son - "where will he be staying", "what is the purpose of his visit", "how long will he be staying"?
A very refreshing change from the US.
A while back I was entering the UK with my then 10 year-old son - he was travelling on a US passport, I was on an EU passport. The immigration officer therefore only asked me questions about my son - "where will he be staying", "what is the purpose of his visit", "how long will he be staying"?
A very refreshing change from the US.
Jul 31, 2013, 1:33 am
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- Immigration: minimal questioning. SmartGate eliminates any face-to-face contact and you might need to answer one (random?) question at the kiosk. Otherwise, there might be a question regarding customs/quarantine ("I see you ticked 'yes' for food; what kind of food do you have?" "Chocolate." "Okay, have a nice day.")
- Customs: As above (for citizens and visitors). Not quite as simple as the Europe self-select red/green channels; a customs/quarantine officer directs you either to a line for bags x-ray or inspection or to the exit. Inspections are generally quick and painless.
Aug 3, 2013, 11:15 pm
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That's not quite accurate - in addition to the passport control guy who apparently is performing a customs function, after passport control there are roving customs inspectors, as well as a final chance to be secondaried by the guy at the apparent exit to whom you hand your form.
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This CBP APC is for US citizens only, right?
Aug 4, 2013, 3:46 am
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Doesn't the immigration inspector decide if you go to secondary at the customs exit? In Canada, s/he puts a number on the form. Depending on the number, the agent at the exit knows to either let you go or send you to secondary.
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This CBP APC is for US citizens only, right?
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This CBP APC is for US citizens only, right?
The passport control check desk type of personnel can decide on secondary as can the people at baggage claim or the exit control just beyond baggage claim.
Aug 5, 2013, 9:47 am
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GE uses facial recognition and fingerprints along with passport machine readable code at bottom of the photo page. Tough to counterfeit the CPB DB info. Ticked prints a photo on it - this wasn't always that way, when the program first started no photo was printed. That was probably added to prevent a valid passport holder from giving that ticket to someone and then standing in line allowing someone to illegally enter. At LAX ere are 2 CBP officers watching the 3 kiosks and one checking the photo before continuing, but no one at YVR.
Chip not needed. NEXUS machines (Canada) use an isiris scan only - no passport or other cards/ID required to enter Canada.
Leaving Canada at YVR was another issue - I found there is a difference in kiosks.
Chip not needed. NEXUS machines (Canada) use an isiris scan only - no passport or other cards/ID required to enter Canada.
Leaving Canada at YVR was another issue - I found there is a difference in kiosks.
Last edited by puddinhead; Aug 6, 2013 at 9:14 am
Aug 5, 2013, 9:54 am
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Aug 5, 2013, 10:37 am
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Biometrics are NOT stored in the passport, they are stored in the CBP database. US uses fingerprints AND facial recognition, entered during the GE interview. Canada uses iris scan and doesn't even require a passport to enter Canada (NEXUS), the eyes tell all.
Aug 5, 2013, 10:51 am
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Aug 5, 2013, 11:36 am
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In Europe the apparent inability of immigration officials to ask question of EU citizens can have strange results.
A while back I was entering the UK with my then 10 year-old son - he was travelling on a US passport, I was on an EU passport. The immigration officer therefore only asked me questions about my son - "where will he be staying", "what is the purpose of his visit", "how long will he be staying"?
A very refreshing change from the US.
A while back I was entering the UK with my then 10 year-old son - he was travelling on a US passport, I was on an EU passport. The immigration officer therefore only asked me questions about my son - "where will he be staying", "what is the purpose of his visit", "how long will he be staying"?
A very refreshing change from the US.
Aug 5, 2013, 12:08 pm
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The first time I entered the US (after they started with the photos), about 80% of my face wasn't even in the frame. When I asked a CBP officer about it, all he did was laugh.
Aug 5, 2013, 1:35 pm
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2. Perhaps it varies.
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Aug 5, 2013, 7:09 pm
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Very interesting... Something new to try on my next trip,through the GE kiosk.
Aug 6, 2013, 8:51 am
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I asked this yesterday and no, APC users still have to use the normal exit lines. GE can walk to the front of the lines once they've claimed their bags.