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APC Locations: ATL AUA AUH AUS BOS CLT MDW ORD DFW DEN DTW DUB YEG FLL IAH LAS LAX MIA MSP YUL NAS JFK EWR MCO PHL PHX PDX RNO SLC SAN SFO SEA TPA YYZ YVR IAD
Eligible persons at all APC airports: U.S. and Canadian passport holders and international visitors from Visa Waiver Program countries are eligible to use APC kiosks. Visa Waiver Program visitors must have Electronic System for Travel Authorizations (ESTA) approval prior to travel and have visited the United States on at least one occasion after 2008.
Eligible persons at some but not all APC airports: US permanent residents might be eligible to use APC kiosks at LAX, SFO, ORD, DTW; probably more by now.
Eligible persons at all APC airports: U.S. and Canadian passport holders and international visitors from Visa Waiver Program countries are eligible to use APC kiosks. Visa Waiver Program visitors must have Electronic System for Travel Authorizations (ESTA) approval prior to travel and have visited the United States on at least one occasion after 2008.
Eligible persons at some but not all APC airports: US permanent residents might be eligible to use APC kiosks at LAX, SFO, ORD, DTW; probably more by now.
US CBP Automated Passport Control
May 8, 2013, 11:14 am
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Here is the announcement of the implementation at ORD (from the Chicago forum)
ORD Terminal 5 - Post 92
ORD Terminal 5 - Post 92
May 8, 2013, 2:35 pm
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It certainly can't hurt.
This Chicago Tribune article doesn't say anything new.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4462144.story
The interesting thing I saw in the press release above is that it refers to "passengers who are eligible..." I am wondering what the eligibility requirements are, and how it differs from the Global Entry kiosks in practice (besides shorter lines, basically).
This Chicago Tribune article doesn't say anything new.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4462144.story
The interesting thing I saw in the press release above is that it refers to "passengers who are eligible..." I am wondering what the eligibility requirements are, and how it differs from the Global Entry kiosks in practice (besides shorter lines, basically).
About eligibility in or for the US, it should cover most adults with a currently valid passport from at least the US where the passport can be read by the machines and transmits certain passport info for its bearer.
May 8, 2013, 2:52 pm
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May 8, 2013, 4:21 pm
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May 8, 2013, 5:09 pm
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You don't have to fill out the customs declaration form for Global Entry. You answer the questions on what you've brought back at the kiosk, and it prints the necessary info on the little receipt the kiosk prints out. Depending on how you answer, you may have to speak to an officer, of course.
May 8, 2013, 5:38 pm
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Given that some countries have kiosks e.g Smart Gate in Australia which all Australian nationals with chips passports can use why not have the same for all US nationals.
Having a human look at a computer screen and someones face can't really offer more security than a kiosks with a biometric gate, plus a few eyes out for those looking out of place.
Having a human look at a computer screen and someones face can't really offer more security than a kiosks with a biometric gate, plus a few eyes out for those looking out of place.
May 8, 2013, 5:59 pm
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Because that doesn't instill fear into the hearts of Americans to justify defense spending.
Given that some countries have kiosks e.g
Smart Gate in Australia which all Australian nationals with chips passports can use why not have the same for all US nationals.
Having a human look at a computer screen and someones face can't really offer more security than a kiosks with a biometric gate, plus a few eyes out for those looking out of place.
Smart Gate in Australia which all Australian nationals with chips passports can use why not have the same for all US nationals.
Having a human look at a computer screen and someones face can't really offer more security than a kiosks with a biometric gate, plus a few eyes out for those looking out of place.
May 8, 2013, 6:23 pm
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That is what is driving this change at least in substantial part.
Sometimes CBP in-person questions happen regardless of the answers to the GE kiosk questions.
"It's really going to save us millions of dollars a year in data-entry costs, and really in officer efficiency and processing times," he said.
You don't have to fill out the customs declaration form for Global Entry. You answer the questions on what you've brought back at the kiosk, and it prints the necessary info on the little receipt the kiosk prints out. Depending on how you answer, you may have to speak to an officer, of course.
May 9, 2013, 1:48 am
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Of course, the press in the US will never mention that in most (actually, as far as I know all) of the other countries that have implemented the automated border kiosks they DO NOT require the passenger to speak to an agent after clearing the automated machine. As with everything else, no one cares how things are done in other parts of the civilized world.
http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=31&sid=3218839
Passengers will still have to speak to a CBP employee and this will probably come with more intensive questioning for some as it frees up resources to do so.
Passengers will still have to speak to a CBP employee and this will probably come with more intensive questioning for some as it frees up resources to do so.
May 9, 2013, 6:23 am
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http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=31&sid=3218839
Passengers will still have to speak to a CBP employee and this will probably come with more intensive questioning for some as it frees up resources to do so.
Passengers will still have to speak to a CBP employee and this will probably come with more intensive questioning for some as it frees up resources to do so.
There's been little resistance from the Unions, if any. Less stress, actual help to address the insane processing times throughout the U.S and the fact CBP in Washington wants this to be successful.
Eventually this will be expanded to Vistors that enter the U.S.
FYI, these machines aren't cheap, but worth the cost when you start looking at misconnect cost for the airlines.
May 9, 2013, 10:18 am
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This should prove interesting. Seems they're taking the Australian approach to implementation rather than the NZ approach, which I think is good - the more regimented and process-structured it is the faster it will be accepted/understood by the general American public. I just hope they have the NZ machines though; it may just be my luck, but the Australian machines almost always (well over 75% of the time) failing when I use them, whereas I've only had 2-3 problems with the NZ machines.
Makes Global Entry a harder choice to justify.
Makes Global Entry a harder choice to justify.
May 9, 2013, 10:23 am
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Almost the European approach, but not quite (there is no receipt and nothing to verify.)
Actually, come to think of it, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. The machine has compared you to the photo on your passport, and gives you a green light for the match - a red light if there is a problem. If you get the green light, what is there for the inspector to compare? The machine has already matched you biometrically to your passport, what additional layer of security does looking at the receipt without questioning provide?
Actually, come to think of it, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. The machine has compared you to the photo on your passport, and gives you a green light for the match - a red light if there is a problem. If you get the green light, what is there for the inspector to compare? The machine has already matched you biometrically to your passport, what additional layer of security does looking at the receipt without questioning provide?
At least here in ORD, it's my understanding you'll have 2 officer's working the kiosks (16 on one side, 14 on the other). There's no formal questioning from what I was told, other than for the officer to verify the passport and receipt match up. (sure something might raise a red flag, but the issue here is to move U.S citizens quickly)
There's been little resistance from the Unions, if any. Less stress, actual help to address the insane processing times throughout the U.S and the fact CBP in Washington wants this to be successful.
Eventually this will be expanded to Vistors that enter the U.S.
FYI, these machines aren't cheap, but worth the cost when you start looking at misconnect cost for the airlines.
There's been little resistance from the Unions, if any. Less stress, actual help to address the insane processing times throughout the U.S and the fact CBP in Washington wants this to be successful.
Eventually this will be expanded to Vistors that enter the U.S.
FYI, these machines aren't cheap, but worth the cost when you start looking at misconnect cost for the airlines.