Are USA passports stamped upon entrance to USA?
May 28, 2015, 2:28 am
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Stamps are important - you might find yourself needing those stamps for later legal/immigration reasons.
To wit:
1. to obtain a Consular Report of a Birth Abroad for my son (and thus document his US status as a natural born citizen) I had to prove I was not only a citizen but that I had also physical presence in the United States for at least five years. This included providing a detailed listing of all exits/entries to the US. Without the stamps in my passports (save all those canceled ones!) there is no way I would have been able to accurately recall the exit/entry dates of the many trips I was lucky enough to go on as a small child.
2. As part of the K1 Fiancee visa process both I and my now-wife had to also document physical presence in the US. Again, without the stamps in the passports neither of us would have been able to accurately recall all our dates of exit/entry.
3. If my son who was born abroad has children who are also born abroad those children (my grandkids) will not necessarily be eligible to claim natural born citizenship if my son cannot show he has at least 5 years of physical presence in the United States. Stamps of his passports will be very important in documenting his physical presence.
4. Stamps in passports can be very useful confirmation/documentation during national security investigations and for obtaining security clearances.
Get those stamps because 1) one can never know when such information is needed, and 2) while the government keeps this information electronically one cannot necessarily rely on the government to give you information it has about you when you need to give that same information to the government to prove/disprove or confirm something about you.
[sometimes they like to see how resourceful/clever you can be or trustworthy you are by not giving you the information - which can be quite amusing or aggravating, depending].
To wit:
1. to obtain a Consular Report of a Birth Abroad for my son (and thus document his US status as a natural born citizen) I had to prove I was not only a citizen but that I had also physical presence in the United States for at least five years. This included providing a detailed listing of all exits/entries to the US. Without the stamps in my passports (save all those canceled ones!) there is no way I would have been able to accurately recall the exit/entry dates of the many trips I was lucky enough to go on as a small child.
2. As part of the K1 Fiancee visa process both I and my now-wife had to also document physical presence in the US. Again, without the stamps in the passports neither of us would have been able to accurately recall all our dates of exit/entry.
3. If my son who was born abroad has children who are also born abroad those children (my grandkids) will not necessarily be eligible to claim natural born citizenship if my son cannot show he has at least 5 years of physical presence in the United States. Stamps of his passports will be very important in documenting his physical presence.
4. Stamps in passports can be very useful confirmation/documentation during national security investigations and for obtaining security clearances.
Get those stamps because 1) one can never know when such information is needed, and 2) while the government keeps this information electronically one cannot necessarily rely on the government to give you information it has about you when you need to give that same information to the government to prove/disprove or confirm something about you.
[sometimes they like to see how resourceful/clever you can be or trustworthy you are by not giving you the information - which can be quite amusing or aggravating, depending].
School and work records in the U.S. are generally sufficient to show US physical presence; and showing stamped passports isn't a general requirement to satisfy the physical presence condition to get a CRBA. And while the request for travel information is there, CRBAs are validly issued even when such supplied travel history is fragmentary when it can be documented that the U.S. physical presence requirement of the parent of the child has been met and that the child is the child of that U.S. parent.
Most of the CBRAs issued nowadays do not involve submitting long expired passports with stamps in them.
For my security clearances, my expired passports and their stamps were as good as useless; but YMMV on that.
I've seen passport stamps in U.S. passports for natural-born US citizens born abroad not be accepted as proof of physical presence beyond the date of the stamp itself. Best to have more extensive records to procure/provide than just stamps, if such a child passing on US citizenship is part of your planning.
May 28, 2015, 8:50 am
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Indeed. But to continue:
School and work records in the U.S. are generally sufficient to show US physical presence; and showing stamped passports isn't a general requirement to satisfy the physical presence condition to get a CRBA. And while the request for travel information is there, CRBAs are validly issued even when such supplied travel history is fragmentary when it can be documented that the U.S. physical presence requirement of the parent of the child has been met and that the child is the child of that U.S. parent.
Most of the CBRAs issued nowadays do not involve submitting long expired passports with stamps in them.
For my security clearances, my expired passports and their stamps were as good as useless; but YMMV on that.
I've seen passport stamps in U.S. passports for natural-born US citizens born abroad not be accepted as proof of physical presence beyond the date of the stamp itself. Best to have more extensive records to procure/provide than just stamps, if such a child passing on US citizenship is part of your planning.
School and work records in the U.S. are generally sufficient to show US physical presence; and showing stamped passports isn't a general requirement to satisfy the physical presence condition to get a CRBA. And while the request for travel information is there, CRBAs are validly issued even when such supplied travel history is fragmentary when it can be documented that the U.S. physical presence requirement of the parent of the child has been met and that the child is the child of that U.S. parent.
Most of the CBRAs issued nowadays do not involve submitting long expired passports with stamps in them.
For my security clearances, my expired passports and their stamps were as good as useless; but YMMV on that.
I've seen passport stamps in U.S. passports for natural-born US citizens born abroad not be accepted as proof of physical presence beyond the date of the stamp itself. Best to have more extensive records to procure/provide than just stamps, if such a child passing on US citizenship is part of your planning.
On the investigatory front - having the stamps so as to be able to accurately and confidently state when one was or wasn't in a specific country was also very helpful.
And, the points you make are well taken and I most assuredly agree - passport and entry/exit stamps by themselves will not be of much use in such proceedings.
May 28, 2015, 3:19 pm
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I wasn't saying the expired passports and the stamps thereon were required - merely that they were VERY useful in preparing and supporting the applications.
On the investigatory front - having the stamps so as to be able to accurately and confidently state when one was or wasn't in a specific country was also very helpful.
And, the points you make are well taken and I most assuredly agree - passport and entry/exit stamps by themselves will not be of much use in such proceedings.
On the investigatory front - having the stamps so as to be able to accurately and confidently state when one was or wasn't in a specific country was also very helpful.
And, the points you make are well taken and I most assuredly agree - passport and entry/exit stamps by themselves will not be of much use in such proceedings.
Interestingly for me yesterday, or today/tomorrow depending on where you are on the dateline LOL leaving Guam for Honolulu not only did they stamp every US citizen's boarding pass as they normally do, they stamped in the passport also. They are bored and stamp happy in Guam it seems...
May 28, 2015, 6:00 pm
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I always ask when reentering the US (I'm trying to get every air port of entry samp) and I've never been refused. This includes my last two trips back (ATL and SEA) where I had to use the automated kiosk for entry. Now that I have GE though my stamp getting days may be over.
May 28, 2015, 6:17 pm
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I'll try on my way back from Berlin in July and I'll let you know if it's successful ^
May 29, 2015, 12:32 am
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Yes, and they do it.
Jun 7, 2015, 12:09 am
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At ORD, it's been easy to get the stamp.
Jun 8, 2015, 11:57 am
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I've not used ORD CBP yet. At PHL I get a stamp everytime (Which did come in handy once due to missing college related assignments due to a flight cancellation and having proof that I was delayed.) But I've reentered through YUL a few times and never been stamped. I usually enter Canada on Amtrak and the Lacolle CBSA always stamps me.
Jun 8, 2015, 1:34 pm
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Have 4 US return stamps in my 2000-2009 passport (27 international entries), none in 2010-2011 (8 international entries). Never requested & 1 of the 'return' stamps is from US immigration in Dublin Ireland.
Understand you can always request one and I will start doing that shortly to help prove I'm out of the country for at least 330 days out of the year for tax reasons.
Understand you can always request one and I will start doing that shortly to help prove I'm out of the country for at least 330 days out of the year for tax reasons.
Jun 8, 2015, 1:41 pm
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Indeed. But to continue:
School and work records in the U.S. are generally sufficient to show US physical presence; and showing stamped passports isn't a general requirement to satisfy the physical presence condition to get a CRBA. And while the request for travel information is there, CRBAs are validly issued even when such supplied travel history is fragmentary when it can be documented that the U.S. physical presence requirement of the parent of the child has been met and that the child is the child of that U.S. parent.
Most of the CBRAs issued nowadays do not involve submitting long expired passports with stamps in them.
For my security clearances, my expired passports and their stamps were as good as useless; but YMMV on that.
I've seen passport stamps in U.S. passports for natural-born US citizens born abroad not be accepted as proof of physical presence beyond the date of the stamp itself. Best to have more extensive records to procure/provide than just stamps, if such a child passing on US citizenship is part of your planning.
School and work records in the U.S. are generally sufficient to show US physical presence; and showing stamped passports isn't a general requirement to satisfy the physical presence condition to get a CRBA. And while the request for travel information is there, CRBAs are validly issued even when such supplied travel history is fragmentary when it can be documented that the U.S. physical presence requirement of the parent of the child has been met and that the child is the child of that U.S. parent.
Most of the CBRAs issued nowadays do not involve submitting long expired passports with stamps in them.
For my security clearances, my expired passports and their stamps were as good as useless; but YMMV on that.
I've seen passport stamps in U.S. passports for natural-born US citizens born abroad not be accepted as proof of physical presence beyond the date of the stamp itself. Best to have more extensive records to procure/provide than just stamps, if such a child passing on US citizenship is part of your planning.
Jun 29, 2015, 5:27 am
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It depends on the airport. I've asked the CBP officer who looks at the kiosk-printed receipt prior to proceeding to the baggage claim area. If they don't have a stamp, they may direct you to another who does. Some may be curious why you want a stamp anymore.
At ORD, it's been easy to get the stamp.
At ORD, it's been easy to get the stamp.
