The Economist: The checkpoint of the future
Jun 13, 2011, 9:29 am
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The Economist: The checkpoint of the future
THE International Air Transport Association (IATA) has revealed this rather fetching design for a prototype airport checkpoint of the future. It signals the end of a "one-size-fits-all" security policy by funnelling passengers into one of three tunnels. Those who have passed government background checks head speedily through the "known traveller" lane. Those deemed an elevated risk walk through an "enhanced" tunnel where they might receive a full body scan. Everyone else goes through the normal channel, where their luggage is scanned, but where they should not have to remove any clothing or unpack any belongings.
The idea, according to Giovanni Bisignani, IATA's head, is to move from a system that finds bad objects to one that can find bad people. "Passengers should be able to get from curb to boarding gate with dignity," he says. "That means without stopping, stripping or unpacking, and certainly not groping. That is the mission for the Checkpoint of the Future."
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The idea, according to Giovanni Bisignani, IATA's head, is to move from a system that finds bad objects to one that can find bad people. "Passengers should be able to get from curb to boarding gate with dignity," he says. "That means without stopping, stripping or unpacking, and certainly not groping. That is the mission for the Checkpoint of the Future."
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http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulli...intofthefuture
Jun 13, 2011, 10:12 am
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I think the $64M question is: will the IATA allow these checkpoints to be tested for safety (and effectiveness) by independent labs? We all know how the TSA has been on this regard with both type of pornoscanner.
THE International Air Transport Association (IATA) has revealed this rather fetching design for a prototype airport checkpoint of the future. It signals the end of a "one-size-fits-all" security policy by funnelling passengers into one of three tunnels. Those who have passed government background checks head speedily through the "known traveller" lane. Those deemed an elevated risk walk through an "enhanced" tunnel where they might receive a full body scan. Everyone else goes through the normal channel, where their luggage is scanned, but where they should not have to remove any clothing or unpack any belongings.
The idea, according to Giovanni Bisignani, IATA's head, is to move from a system that finds bad objects to one that can find bad people. "Passengers should be able to get from curb to boarding gate with dignity," he says. "That means without stopping, stripping or unpacking, and certainly not groping. That is the mission for the Checkpoint of the Future."
Link to rest of the article....
http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulli...intofthefuture
The idea, according to Giovanni Bisignani, IATA's head, is to move from a system that finds bad objects to one that can find bad people. "Passengers should be able to get from curb to boarding gate with dignity," he says. "That means without stopping, stripping or unpacking, and certainly not groping. That is the mission for the Checkpoint of the Future."
Link to rest of the article....
http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulli...intofthefuture
Jun 13, 2011, 12:32 pm
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Bad people are the legitimate target. Right now, almost every person stripped of their dignity is a good person in our system of standards. When has it ever found one bad person? Seems to me the FBI is what is finding bad people right now.
Jun 13, 2011, 5:23 pm
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There are lots of 'bad people' who have no desire to take down a plane. Let's start at the beginning: What is the definition of a 'bad person'.
Jun 13, 2011, 5:54 pm
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Jun 14, 2011, 10:50 am
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My understanding is that all of the tunnels would use iris scans to identify people. This alone makes me opposed to this type of system--any type of thing that forces common people to undergo iris scans is very scary, paving the way for a world like that in "Minority Report."
Jun 14, 2011, 10:55 am
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I see "Full body scanner" in the "Enhanced" line. (Click photo to expand: http://gizmodo.com/5809441/security-...ped-a-lot-less)
The words NO DEAL come to mind.
The words NO DEAL come to mind.
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One frequently hears police and military people referring to the targets of their organised violence as "bad guys" or "bad people," which allows them to avoid guilty feelings over what they do. Christ correctly reminded us that "all men are sinners," so the notion of attempting to divide the world into two binary groups of "bad guys" and "good guys" is beyond ludicrous. While some are worse than others, nobody is lily white and nobody is entitled to declare themselves in a position to pass judgement on others. The only difference between the so-called "good guys" and the rest of the world is that they have the power, influence and connections to keep themselves out of prison while the powerless rot there for relatively minor transgressions.
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One frequently hears police and military people referring to the targets of their organised violence as "bad guys" or "bad people," which allows them to avoid guilty feelings over what they do. Christ correctly reminded us that "all men are sinners," so the notion of attempting to divide the world into two binary groups of "bad guys" and "good guys" is beyond ludicrous. While some are worse than others, nobody is lily white and nobody is entitled to declare themselves in a position to pass judgement on others. The only difference between the so-called "good guys" and the rest of the world is that they have the power, influence and connections to keep themselves out of prison while the powerless rot there for relatively minor transgressions.
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I see "Full body scanner" in the "Enhanced" line. (Click photo to expand: http://gizmodo.com/5809441/security-...ped-a-lot-less)
The words NO DEAL come to mind.
The words NO DEAL come to mind.
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One frequently hears police and military people referring to the targets of their organised violence as "bad guys" or "bad people," which allows them to avoid guilty feelings over what they do. Christ correctly reminded us that "all men are sinners," so the notion of attempting to divide the world into two binary groups of "bad guys" and "good guys" is beyond ludicrous. While some are worse than others, nobody is lily white and nobody is entitled to declare themselves in a position to pass judgement on others. The only difference between the so-called "good guys" and the rest of the world is that they have the power, influence and connections to keep themselves out of prison while the powerless rot there for relatively minor transgressions.
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I understood your point - I was supporting your view, not challenging it.