TSO saying "heads up, got a cutie for you"
Nov 18, 2010, 10:58 am
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Well i have a friend that is driving from key west to vegas for a tradeshow right now as they have no plans on dealing with TSA BS especially since there carrying a large number of valuable historical artifacts for a display at the tradeshow. my laptop should be back to me by end of the week and a few Fedex packages landing in sunny florida by monday morning at the latest for a grand entrance. 
I want that DEN info to hit the news, thats much fresher and would be great material to hit the rotating oscillator (for those that dont get the joke-- in other words the .... hitting the fan)
I want that DEN info to hit the news, thats much fresher and would be great material to hit the rotating oscillator (for those that dont get the joke-- in other words the .... hitting the fan)
DEN or MIA either would work.
Nov 18, 2010, 11:38 am
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Last week, one of my flying partners (Captain with Skywest) was going through security at DEN with his 18 year daughter. As his daughter approached the detector, the TSO working the NoS said on his headset, "heads up, got a cutie for you." He then confronted the TSA clerk with what he said and that neither of us are going through the NoS. The TSA clerk said you must have misunderstood me. 
He said pat-down was pretty evasive, and his daughter felt uncomfortable.
He said pat-down was pretty evasive, and his daughter felt uncomfortable.
Its stoiries like this, is why I will not go through the NoS (radiation/health issues) and even refuse the the pat-down thus (if it happens while on duty) canceling the flight due to a hostile work environment.
I hope this gets resolves soon!! Got to fly....no NoS checkpoints on this trip so don't worry about a canceled flight from me!!
I hope this gets resolves soon!! Got to fly....no NoS checkpoints on this trip so don't worry about a canceled flight from me!!
Nov 18, 2010, 11:40 am
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Originally Posted by janetdoe
You do have the right to ask the gender of the person reading the scanned images and decide whether or not to opt out based on that information. That is what CAIR recommended to Muslim women. (discussed in another thread)
Nov 20, 2010, 12:55 am
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"thankfully we have learned some very harsh lessons and people have learned to stand up and to question leadership"
I think that's a great point. My grandfather grew up in Germany in the 1930s (left in '38) and I have often wondered how he felt as life went from normal to unimaginable in 10 years or so. He made the point that even serious civil rights abuses can be tolerated if they are brought in incrementally enough.
While I am not proposing this is the same kind of thing, it is amazing that with gradual, piecemeal steps people can accept being ogled at naked by strangers, and accept allowing their children to be fondled by uniformed who-knows-who, and for no good reason at all. I presume that people would draw the line at being routinely strip-searched, but who knows? Personally I have pulled out of upcoming conferences in the USA as I have no wish to endure this.
I think that's a great point. My grandfather grew up in Germany in the 1930s (left in '38) and I have often wondered how he felt as life went from normal to unimaginable in 10 years or so. He made the point that even serious civil rights abuses can be tolerated if they are brought in incrementally enough.
While I am not proposing this is the same kind of thing, it is amazing that with gradual, piecemeal steps people can accept being ogled at naked by strangers, and accept allowing their children to be fondled by uniformed who-knows-who, and for no good reason at all. I presume that people would draw the line at being routinely strip-searched, but who knows? Personally I have pulled out of upcoming conferences in the USA as I have no wish to endure this.
Nov 25, 2010, 12:28 am
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Jan 14, 2011, 1:30 am
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RE: OTAR, ect..
Sorry guys, I'm coming into this late.. But I noticed that PART of that TSA fine print regarding all the whiz-bang additives that they want on this radio (will it be portable by the time they add everything on?).. needed to be "backward compatible."
With the upcoming lawsuits (until the Feds exempt them), and still fitting the "pornoscopes" at all the airports, I wonder what year budget will have the new TSA radios in it?
From working for State gov in years past (I installed Inet in the pubic school districts), I know how any particular site may have ONE piece of old (in this case non-scrambled) equipment, so all the new ones would have to be set to talk to it..
From the descriptions of the TSA personnel I've been reading (that's how I ended up here) they don't seem to be overly trained, and the setup and operation of these multi-keyed systems might be just a tad beyond them.
You can just SEE a manager being frustrated at contacting one handset, and ordering EVERYBODY to turn that $#%(* scrambling off, we get a better signal without it.. style managing.
I could tell you similar stories about the IT world and managers disabling security software, just in time to infect a network of over 80,000 seats (Cincy Public) with a nasty virus that took them down for days..
Or my required school year end auditing of the software to prevent the little kiddies from getting to "babes4u.com", and the surprise winner (school that had the MOST hits of students attempting to circumvent the statewide security) ended up being a Catholic all girl's HS. (true!)
I see similar possibilities in this "super-duper" radio system..
Cheers!
mm1
Question: Does any US airport served by scheduled airline straddle a state border?[/QUOTE]
CVG (Northern KY/Cincinnati Int'l Airport) is located in Florence KY, 1.5 miles off the NW runway to Ohio, and 12 miles due W is the Indiana border. Most landing planes pattern over Delhi Township in OH, and touchdown in less than 30 seconds in KY. The airport is 7 miles from downtown Cincinnati.
In case anyone is wondering how the Cincinnati airport was given the TLA of CVG, it was the original location plan, CoVinGton, KY (located just across the river from Cincy and the stadiums. The original plan (Pres. Roosevelt, 1942) had a much different geographical division of cities than existed when it opened in 1947 (one terminal), to when the first jet touched down in 1960. It was to replace the aging (but still operating):
Cincinnati Muni Lunken Field, dedicated in 1930 as the largest municipal airport in the US, and the origination of American Airlines in the '40's.
Sorry, didn't mean to stray. Oh, and regarding the "interstate" discussion earlier.. CVG is located in Florence KY (41042), but the airport property has its own zip code (45299 - 452xx is Cincinnati).
Cheers!
mm1
Sorry guys, I'm coming into this late.. But I noticed that PART of that TSA fine print regarding all the whiz-bang additives that they want on this radio (will it be portable by the time they add everything on?).. needed to be "backward compatible."
With the upcoming lawsuits (until the Feds exempt them), and still fitting the "pornoscopes" at all the airports, I wonder what year budget will have the new TSA radios in it?
From working for State gov in years past (I installed Inet in the pubic school districts), I know how any particular site may have ONE piece of old (in this case non-scrambled) equipment, so all the new ones would have to be set to talk to it..
From the descriptions of the TSA personnel I've been reading (that's how I ended up here) they don't seem to be overly trained, and the setup and operation of these multi-keyed systems might be just a tad beyond them.
You can just SEE a manager being frustrated at contacting one handset, and ordering EVERYBODY to turn that $#%(* scrambling off, we get a better signal without it.. style managing.
I could tell you similar stories about the IT world and managers disabling security software, just in time to infect a network of over 80,000 seats (Cincy Public) with a nasty virus that took them down for days..
Or my required school year end auditing of the software to prevent the little kiddies from getting to "babes4u.com", and the surprise winner (school that had the MOST hits of students attempting to circumvent the statewide security) ended up being a Catholic all girl's HS. (true!)
I see similar possibilities in this "super-duper" radio system..
Cheers!
mm1
Question: Does any US airport served by scheduled airline straddle a state border?[/QUOTE]
CVG (Northern KY/Cincinnati Int'l Airport) is located in Florence KY, 1.5 miles off the NW runway to Ohio, and 12 miles due W is the Indiana border. Most landing planes pattern over Delhi Township in OH, and touchdown in less than 30 seconds in KY. The airport is 7 miles from downtown Cincinnati.
In case anyone is wondering how the Cincinnati airport was given the TLA of CVG, it was the original location plan, CoVinGton, KY (located just across the river from Cincy and the stadiums. The original plan (Pres. Roosevelt, 1942) had a much different geographical division of cities than existed when it opened in 1947 (one terminal), to when the first jet touched down in 1960. It was to replace the aging (but still operating):
Cincinnati Muni Lunken Field, dedicated in 1930 as the largest municipal airport in the US, and the origination of American Airlines in the '40's.
Sorry, didn't mean to stray. Oh, and regarding the "interstate" discussion earlier.. CVG is located in Florence KY (41042), but the airport property has its own zip code (45299 - 452xx is Cincinnati).
Cheers!
mm1
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Jan 14, 2011, 5:47 am
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Jan 14, 2011, 9:33 am
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This morning at about 7:40 am I was at the WN checkpoint for gates 3 to 10 in T1 at SAN when I heard the TDC in the flyby line comment on the ease of finding the address where the pax whose ID he was holding lived.
He said it to her, and I heard her remark about it not being her current address, even if he did show up there.
I noted this one-striper's name and badge number and will definitely be filing complaints with the TSA, ACLU and EPIC.
Guard your info, because you never know who might want to visit your house.
He said it to her, and I heard her remark about it not being her current address, even if he did show up there.
I noted this one-striper's name and badge number and will definitely be filing complaints with the TSA, ACLU and EPIC.
Guard your info, because you never know who might want to visit your house.
Jan 14, 2011, 9:36 am
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Jan 14, 2011, 9:42 am
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