List of Airport Alternatives without Full Body Scanners
IMPORTANT! As of April 2011, I am no longer maintaining this list. Please refer to the board's master list and reports from sites like tsastatus.net for the airports that you intend to use. This list should still have archival value as a list of nearby airports for major metro areas. Mods are welcome to reassign ownership of this post if somebody else is interested in maintaining it.
This is a community-built list of body scanner-free, alternative airports for major metropolitan areas. For a full list of airports with scanners, see the FT list (some jargon) and the tsa.gov list (may be incomplete). The list is a work-in-progress. Feel free to build upon it by posting your comments on this thread. I'll update this master post weekly. This list incorporates comments up to post #59. UNOFFICIAL GUIDE TO BODY SCANNER FREE ALTERNATIVES 1. General Disclaimers
2. Alphabetical List of Top ? Metro Areas Atlanta area (ATL): - Birmingham (BHM), 2 hrs west - Columbus, GA (CSG), 2 hrs, limited? DL, AA - Augusta (AGS), 2.5-3 hrs east; DL, US, limited AA - Chattanooga, TN (CHA), 2-2.5 hrs north; DL, US, limited AA Boston area (BOS): - Manchester (MHT), 1-2 hrs NW. Bus available from South Station. - Portland (PWM), 2-3 hrs NE. Bus from South Station, Amtrak from North Station plus short taxi. Charlotte area (CLT): - Columbia, SC (CAE), 2 hrs south - Greensboro High Point (GSO), 2 hrs SW - Greenville, SC (GSP), 1.5 hrs SW - Asheville (AVL), 2 hrs west; US, DL, CO, limited UA & AirTran Chicago area (ORD, MDW): - Madison, WI (MSN), 2-2.5 hr NW; hub service for AA, DL, UA, Midwest, Frontier - South Bend, IN (SBN), 2-2.5 hrs east, South Shore rail line at airport; limited DL, CO, UA hub service - Kalamazoo, MI (AZO), 3 hrs east; limited AA, DL, DirectAir only - Bloomington-Normal (BMI), 2.5 hrs SW; limited AA, DL, AirTran hub service - Moline (MLI), 3 hrs west; limited AirTran, Allegiant, AA, DL, UA - Peoria (PIA), 3 hrs SW; limited AA, DL, UA, Allegiant hub service - Champaign (CMI), 3 hrs south; limited AA only - Rockford (RFD), 90 mins west; extremely limited service—no major carriers - Amtrak national hub at Chicago Union Station Cincinnati area (CVG): - Louisville, KY (SDF), 2 hrs SW - Lexington, KY (LEX), 1.5 hrs south; many airlines but fewer flights than SDF Cleveland area (CLE): - Akron/Canton (CAK), 1 hr SE; decent AirTran, DL, UA, US, Frontier service Dallas/Fort Worth area (DFW, DAL): - Dallas Love Field (DAL), 30 mins east, near downtown Dallas; Southwest hub; limited AA, CO, DL service to hubs. - Tyler (TYR), 2 hrs SE; limited AA, CO hub service - Waco (ACT); 2-2.5 hrs south; limited AA, CO hub service - Longview (GGG), 3 hrs east; limited AA to DFW only - Abilene (ABI), 3 hrs west; limited AA to DFW only Detroit area (DTW): - Flint (FNT), 1.5 hrs north, limited DL, CO, AA, Frontier, AirTran - Lansing (LAN), 1.5-2 hrs NW, limited DL, UA, Sun Country service Denver area (DEN): - Colorado Springs (COS), 2-2.5 hrs south / less from downtown; Houston area (IAH, HOU): - Bryan/College Station (CLL) - Beaumont / SE Texas (BPT) - Victoria (VCT) - Lake Charles (LCH) Jacksonville area (JAX): - Brunswick, GA (BQK), 1 hr north; very limited DL service to ATL - Gainesville (GNV), 1.5 hrs SW; DL service, also limited US & AA Kansas City area (MCI): - Springfield, MO (SGF), 3+ hrs SE; AA, DL, UA, Allegiant - Wichita, KS (ICT), 3.5 hrs SW; many carriers with limited service - Columbia, MO (COU), 2.5-3 hrs east; very limited DL service Las Vegas area (LAS): - St George, UT (SGU), 2 hrs NE; limited DL only Los Angeles area (LAX): - Burbank (BUR), 1-1.5 hr north, Metrolink/Amtrak station at airport - Orange County (SNA), 60-90 mins SE - Long Beach (LGB), 30-45 mins SE Miami area (MIA): - Fort Myers (RSW), 2.5 hrs NW - Key West (EYW), 3+ hrs SW; limited AA, CO, Cape Air, DL, AirTran, US Minneapolis & St. Paul (MSP) - Rochester (RST), 90 mins south; limited AA, DL service - Chippewa Valley / Eau Claire (EAU), <2 hrs east; very limited UA service only New Orleans area (MSY): - Baton Rouge (BTR), 1.5 hrs NW; service on AA, CO, DL, US - Lafayette (LFT), 2 hrs west; service on AA, CO, DL New York City area (LGA, JFK, EWR): - Islip (ISP), 1-2 hrs east, LIRR to Ronkonkoma + connecting shuttle or taxi - Westchester County (HPN), 1 hr north; public transit options - Stewart-Newburgh (SWF), 1.5+ hrs north; public transportation options - New Haven (HVN), 2 hrs NE; limited US service only - Amtrak (Metropark, Newark Airport, Newark, NY Penn Station, New Rochelle, Stamford, New Haven) Orlando area (MCO): - Daytona Beach (DAB), 1-1.5 hr N; limited hub service on DL, US, Airgate - Gainesville (GNV), 2+ hr NW; DL service, limited AA & US - Amtrak Auto Train from Sanford (<1 hr north) to Lorton/DC daily, bring car on train - Amtrak overnight service to Charlotte, Raleigh, Richmond, DC-NY; twice daily, inconsistent onboard service Philadelphia area (PHL): - Allentown (ABE), 1-2 hrs north - Atlantic City (ACY), 1-1.5 hrs SE; Spirit hub, very limited AirTran, no others - Amtrak (PHL) Phoenix area (PHX): - Tucson (TUS), 1.5-2 hrs SE Pittsburgh area (PIT): [placeholder] Portland area (PDX): - Portland (PDX) itself -- WARNING, SCOPES ARRIVING IN 2011 - Portland (PDX) business terminal: Seaport Air to BFI, PDT, AST, ONP — no TSA Raleigh/Durham area (RDU): - Greensboro High Point (GSO) = 1.5 hours west - Fayetteville (FAY), 1.5 hours south; decent AA, DL, US service - New Bern (EWN), 2.5 hrs SE; limited DL, US service Sacramento area (SMF): - Reno/Tahoe (RNO), 2.5 hrs NE, beware winter weather St Louis area (STL): - Springfield, IL (SPI), 2 hrs NE; very limited AA, UA service - Columbia, MO (COU), 2 hrs west; very limited DL service - Bloomington-Normal (BMI), 3 hrs NE; limited AA, DL, AirTran hub service - Springfield, MO (SGF), 4 hrs SW—a bit far; AA, DL, UA, Allegiant San Antonio area (SAT): - Austin (AUS), 1.5 hrs NE. Warning: scanners likely in 2011 San Diego area (SAN): - Carlsbad (CLD), 45-75 mins north; very limited UA service - Orange County (SNA), 1.5-2 hrs north San Francisco area (SFO, OAK): - Santa Rosa (STS), 1.5-2+ hrs north, Horizon Air only - Monterey (MRY), 2 hrs south; limited AA, UA, US, Allegient service Seattle area (SEA): - Bellingham (BLI), 2-3 hrs north, shuttle available; limited Allegiant, AS/Horizon service - Wenatchee (EAT), 3 hrs east, very limited Horizon service - Yakima (YKM), 3 hrs SE, very limited Horizon service - Boeing Field (BFI), 10 min south of d/t Seattle, frequent service on Seaport Air b/w PDX — no TSA - Amtrak from King St Station: multi to Portland; daily to MSP & Chicago (2 nights); daily to Oakland & LA (1 night, unreliable) Tampa/St. Petersburg area (TPA): - Fort Myers (RSW), 2.5 hrs south Washington DC area (DCA, IAD, BWI): - Charlottesville (CHO), 2.5-3.5 hrs south; limited DL, UA, US service - Amtrak (Baltimore, BWI, New Carrollton, DC Union Station, Alexandria) 3. Overview of Medium/Long-Distance Train Service Amtrak's web site has a great deal of detail on rail travel. Also visit the Amtrak forum on FlyerTalk. A short summary follows. There are four general types of Amtrak trains. 1. Corridor trains serve short-distance markets with multiple departures daily. These routes are generally too short to compare with air travel but offer connections to the service below. 2. The Northeast Corridor has frequent service along the route Richmond, VA - DC - Baltimore - Philadelphia - New York City - New Haven - Providence, RI - Boston. Hourly service is available DC-NY, every 1-3 hours on the edges. Acela Express trains also serve DC-Boston and are Amtrak's premier business train. Less frequent service from the corridor is available to upstate NY (Albany, Rochester, Syracuse, Buffalo, Niagara Falls); Hartford & Springfield; much of Vermont; Charlottesville and Lynchburg, VA; and Newport News and Williamsburg, VA. 3. Superliner long-distance trains can be an interesting alternative to flying. Many overnight trains offer hot meals in a dining car, sleepers with showers and lie-flat seats in private compartments, a panoramic lounge, and coach seats with ~4 feet of pitch. The following routes have "Superliner" double-decker equipment and operate once daily:
4. Single-level long-distance trains offer similar amenities to the above, but feel a bit more confined overall and have no panoramic lounge. Single-level overnight service is available daily on these routes:
Routes offering less-than-daily service are omitted. Amtrak's downtown Chicago hub offers connections between most long-distance trains. A number of corridor routes originate at Chicago. |
What is a PLS?
And where is HOU? |
Originally Posted by jordanmills
(Post 15130900)
What is a PLS?
And where is HOU? HOU won't fly. TSA says they're getting the NoS soon. |
Originally Posted by gatelouse
(Post 15130886)
Washington DC area:
- Salisbury (SBY) - Charlottesville (CHO) - Amtrak (BWI, NCR, WAS, ALX) As a comparison point for the airports, here are the driving ranges/times from the three major Baltimore/Washington Metropolitan Area Airports:
In regards to Amtrak, TSA does routine ViPR missions at Union Station and BWI (cannot comment on the other stations, as I don't use New Carrolton or Alexandria on a regular basis) (yes, they do not involve WBI, but they do involve paramilitary Amtrak police operations and random bag searches with TSA participation). |
Fort Wayne (RSW) |
Originally Posted by DevilDog438
(Post 15130957)
Both SBY and CHO are small regional airports with limited flight service and hours.
As a comparison point for the airports, here are the driving ranges/times from the three major Baltimore/Washington Metropolitan Area Airports: <...> In regards to Amtrak, TSA does routine ViPR missions at Union Station and BWI (cannot comment on the other stations, as I don't use New Carrolton or Alexandria on a regular basis) (yes, they do not involve WBI, but they do involve paramilitary Amtrak police operations and random bag searches with TSA participation). I do follow Amtrak a bit; I've heard of WAS and NCR receiving occasional TSA activity. Didn't know about BWI; thanks for that tidbit.
Originally Posted by rove312
(Post 15131004)
I guess that's Fort Myers.
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As long as you can opt-out, I'm not sure I get the point?
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Originally Posted by gatelouse
(Post 15130886)
I'm attempting to compile a list of alternative airports for major metropolitan areas that are NoS-free (and will hopefully remain that way).
Seattle area: - Bellingham (BLI) - Wenatchee (EAT) - Yakima (YKM) - Portland (PDX) |
Originally Posted by gatelouse
(Post 15130943)
PLS == "please". Sorry, forgot that three-cap letters ring bells here. :)
HOU won't fly. TSA says they're getting the NoS soon. |
Originally Posted by essxjay
(Post 15131207)
Weird. Seattle is in Washington state. PDX is Portland, Oregon, about 150 miles away and its own major metropolitan area (#23 vs. #15 for Seattle). How PDX (or EAT or YKM for that matter) could be considered alternative is beyond me.
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Originally Posted by essxjay
(Post 15131207)
Weird. Seattle is in Washington state. PDX is Portland, Oregon, about 150 miles away and its own major metropolitan area (#23 vs. #15 for Seattle). How PDX (or EAT or YKM for that matter) could be considered alternative is beyond me.
Originally Posted by birdstrike
(Post 15131074)
As long as you can opt-out, I'm not sure I get the point?
If the number of travelers that fit the above category is close to nil, then yes, there's little point to a list like this. But if people aren't willing to go out of their way, then are they really that strongly opposed to the frisks and scopes in the first place? |
Really, really minor correction. The Amtrak station in Newark is NWK, not EWR. (I was just looking up Amtrak tickets)
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PDX not good alterate airport
Originally Posted by gatelouse
(Post 15130886)
Seattle area: - Bellingham (BLI) - Wenatchee (EAT) - Yakima (YKM) - Portland (PDX) I guess that since SEA is situated south of D/T Seattle, that maybe cuts 15 minutes off travel time. So 2h45m of driving. If I lived in the Seattle area, opting out would be far more desirable than chugging for 2.75 hours or more in many times unpredictable traffic or other unforseen events (like flooding which can close roads and highways). So as my heart throbs at me for saying this as a part-time PDXer, I would not recommend the added 2h45m just to avoid the NoS and would remove PDX from the list. ~FAI PDX Flyer :) |
Originally Posted by Ellie M
(Post 15131330)
Really, really minor correction. The Amtrak station in Newark is NWK, not EWR. (I was just looking up Amtrak tickets)
Originally Posted by FAIPDXFlyer
(Post 15131343)
Driving time from SEA-PDX (and vice-versa) is a good, full three (3) hours downtown-to-downtown in good traffic. During traffic jams in the SEA or PDX areas, travel times often are appreciably longer (up to 5 hours).
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Great list! I'll put a link to it on the airports with NoS sticky :)
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