nachtnebel

The irony is, as BoggieDog pointed out, we have to wait on these criminal cases (what's legal on an INMATE in a PRISON) and hope innocent travelers can get at least a similar protection!

Boggie Dog

I understand the court did not address travelers.

Your connection did and is inappropriate.

oboshoe

What if the TSA rubdown officer is gay?

Then I suspect he enjoys his job much better than most of us.

oboshoe

What does it matter?

If they weren't sex offenders before they were hired, then they became sex offenders after their first passenger genital rubdown, or viewed a child naked in the private AIT-peek-booth.

reft

Regrettably, a lot of case law seems to come from extreme cases, rather than the mundane everyday civil rights violations. Or as it's put otherwise, "Bad cases make bad laws"

battensea

Thanks for sharing.
But seems I may not be the only FTer who disagrees with you.

New Ruling in the Ninth Circuit on Cross-Gender Searches

Is your "screener" male or female?

MiamiAirport Formerly NY George

I can't think of any TSA employee doing pat downs and getting a "sexual" thrill out of it. Moreover, despite the newsreports, I doubt that most will go too far (in other words touching your junk because they want to or can). And finally how do you know that the screener is gay. Despite red neck stereotypes, most gay men are "masculine" in nature.

Boggie Dog

My argument is not the gender of the screener. It is the comparison of law abiding citizens going about their business of traveling to actions taken against convicted criminals.

Even in the case of prisoners I personally believe the friskings should be conducted by a person of the same sex. The reality is that federal correctional facilities are staffed by both men and women in every area.

I have little sympathy for felons in prison but I know that they have more rights than you do when going through a TSA Screening.

I don't think any person should get a frisking unless they are suspected of a criminal act and are being taken into custody, or if the person has been convicted of a crime and is incarcerated then certain situations will lead to frisking.

Even in prison (one is about 75 yards from my desk) getting frisked is limited to very specific situations and what TSA is doing to the general public, who want nothing more to exercise their right to travel, would result in Correctional Officers being brought up on charges.

If these frisks that TSA subjects the public to cannot be done to convicted criminals then how can anyone make a case that doing it someone wanting to fly is ok?

Going to an airport in order to spend money with a private corporation does not meet that threshold and should never lead to a frisking unless some very clear reasons are presented to do so.

I truly believe that TSA is out of line in this area and those TSA employees who are conducting these actions should be held legally accountable for violating the civil rights of travelers.