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Alex Jones / Infowars Video on Assaultive TSA Patdowns

Alex Jones / Infowars Video on Assaultive TSA Patdowns

Old Nov 6, 2010, 7:23 am
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Originally Posted by RosemaryT
I got pulled aside by TSA for additional screening and was taken into a private area and was thoroughly frisked by a male agent....
Another great example why people should NEVER allow themselves to be coerced into private screenings with people hired off gas-pump ads & pizza boxes.
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Old Nov 6, 2010, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by PhoenixRev
Here's a thought...

Why doesn't the TSA just produce the video showing she is lying?
TSA did just that in other cases. The mom who said TSA took her child. The sippy-cup-gate incident and I believe there was one other.

TSA, show us the video!
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Old Nov 6, 2010, 8:25 am
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Originally Posted by eyecue
This is her 15 minutes of fame.
Her face wasn't shown during the segment. Was her first and last name even mentioned during that segment? That's some "15 minutes of fame".
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Old Nov 6, 2010, 8:27 am
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Originally Posted by tsadude1
Alex Jones has produced so much BS over the YEARS, he is considered a joke. At 3:35 of the film clip he stated that he watched male TSOs touching 3 year old girls. Those are his words. He said nothing? He did nothing? This individual is a big ball buster and yet he did nothing? How many of you have ever seen a male TSO touch a female pax at all. It doesnt happen. Female pax can wait 10-15 minutes until a female TSO is available for that patdown.
Post #29, the one before yours, says differently and is a first person account.

Just another lying traveler tsadude1?

Sure seems to be a lot of reports recounting similar events in the last couple of weeks.

Where there is smoke there is fire!
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Old Nov 6, 2010, 8:31 am
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Originally Posted by tsadude1
Alex Jones has produced so much BS over the YEARS, he is considered a joke. At 3:35 of the film clip he stated that he watched male TSOs touching 3 year old girls. Those are his words. He said nothing? He did nothing? This individual is a big ball buster and yet he did nothing? How many of you have ever seen a male TSO touch a female pax at all. It doesnt happen. Female pax can wait 10-15 minutes until a female TSO is available for that patdown.
I've seen male TSA employees touch female passengers, more so when those passengers are infants and toddlers. No less so when the travel involves an airport security checkpoint with limited staffing which at the time of screening doesn't have TSA employees of both genders present.

Haven't you heard about the TSA rubbing the diapered rumps of infants and toddlers? Often in such situations the TSA doesn't ask about the gender of the infant and toddlers -- not that it matters since same-sex-oriented pedophiles exist too.
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Old Nov 6, 2010, 8:35 am
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Originally Posted by FriendlySkies
And how many are actually recording? Is the video always available for playback?
They are all working and they are all available to be viewed in ALOT of different places.
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Old Nov 6, 2010, 8:39 am
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Originally Posted by tsadude1
How many of you have ever seen a male TSO touch a female pax at all. It doesnt happen. Female pax can wait 10-15 minutes until a female TSO is available for that patdown.
Male TSA employees touching female passengers does happen. And female TSA employees aren't always available within 10-15 minutes to perform patdowns of female passengers.
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Old Nov 6, 2010, 8:40 am
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Old Nov 6, 2010, 8:43 am
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
OK you say it didn't happen and the lady says it happened to her.

The evidence.

We know that TSA has stepped up the pat downs and that they are more aggressive. We know that the "Enhanced Pat Down" was tested at some airports. We have videos from TSA that certainly makes it look like TSA is getting close or directly on the genitals during the pat downs. There have been several reports in the media from various sources saying the new pat down is quiet invasive.

On the other side of the argument we have your statement saying it didn't happen. Nothing more.
She is being called into doubt because she relates a patdown that is not part of our program. We have specific order of coverage and steps. Either the interviewee has a huge memory problem or she is making this up. There is also no chance that it was opposite gender screening.
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Old Nov 6, 2010, 8:46 am
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Originally Posted by eyecue
They are all working and they are all available to be viewed in ALOT of different places.
Are all the cameras and their recordings reviewed every day to make sure that 24-hour recording for every camera installed was accomplished? That would require a lot of labor hours to accomplish.

For how long is the video footage retained? You are sure that's all available still to be viewed in "ALOT" of different places?
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Old Nov 6, 2010, 8:48 am
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Originally Posted by PhoenixRev
Here's a thought...

Why doesn't the TSA just produce the video showing she is lying?
The lady that makes the story has to file a complaint. I am betting that she wont do it. If she was to make a complaint and it was substantiated she would be informed. IF it was unsubstantiated the video could end up being posted because of the big stink.

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Are all the cameras and their recordings reviewed every day to make sure that 24-hour recording for every camera installed was accomplished? That would require a lot of labor hours to accomplish.

For how long is the video footage retained? You are sure that's all available still to be viewed in "ALOT" of different places?
Oh yeah ! They installed new less than a year ago. There are 40 plus cameras on each cp. Each CP can see there own and they are watched and displayed in the office 24/7. They can see the other cameras and the central monitoring station is in CMF and DOCC. So yeah I am sure.

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Old Nov 6, 2010, 8:55 am
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Originally Posted by eyecue
Oh yeah ! They installed new less than a year ago. There are 40 plus cameras on each cp. Each CP can see there own and they are watched and displayed in the office 24/7. They can see the other cameras and the central monitoring station is in CMF and DOCC. So yeah I am sure.
But, can see the tape or get a copy after my screening?
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Old Nov 6, 2010, 8:56 am
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yeesh

There is also no chance that it was opposite gender screening.
No chance? How can you make such a pronouncement unless you're omniscient and omnipresent?

If the need arose, I would gladly swear under oath that I endured a thorough frisking at the hands of a male TSA. He was a tall, thin black man with very closely-cropped hair and he escorted me to an area that was petitioned off and that's where the frisk began.

I don't remember when (late 2004 if I had to guess), but I do remember that I told a lawyer friend about this afterward, and he was aghast. He said that I should file a complaint. I did not file a complaint. I was so terrified of being put on a no-fly list that I decided to just chalk it up to a lesson learned and move along.

At the time, I was a single woman with limited resources and a modest income and if I hadn't been able to fly, my small business would have died.

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Old Nov 6, 2010, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by eyecue
She is being called into doubt because she relates a patdown that is not part of our program. We have specific order of coverage and steps. Either the interviewee has a huge memory problem or she is making this up. There is also no chance that it was opposite gender screening.
Show your evidence that she is not stating fact!
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Old Nov 6, 2010, 9:10 am
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Originally Posted by eyecue
She is being called into doubt because she relates a patdown that is not part of our program. We have specific order of coverage and steps. Either the interviewee has a huge memory problem or she is making this up. There is also no chance that it was opposite gender screening.
Because, of course, there's absolutely no possibility that the TSOs on duty would ever do anything in violation of SOP, because every TSO is fully informed on SOPs and always executes them exactly as written. Right?
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